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Target to Carry Apple TVs?
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It says "carry" not stock, display, sell, advertise, customer service, discuss, or be aware of.
If they were serious, at minimum, they would "end-cap" the product for a period of time 1.5-2x as long as it is being advertised on TV.
The good news is every BB lost sale goes to apple.com or an Apple Store since internet access is widespread.
You would think they would be smart enough to "grasp sales" from their OWN customers already in the STORE on a product that will only be sold once.
Rocketman
If they were serious, at minimum, they would "end-cap" the product for a period of time 1.5-2x as long as it is being advertised on TV.
The good news is every BB lost sale goes to apple.com or an Apple Store since internet access is widespread.
You would think they would be smart enough to "grasp sales" from their OWN customers already in the STORE on a product that will only be sold once.
Rocketman
Hmmmm, 720P eh. Need to check them out, but it took so long to download from Microsoft we gave up...
Thanks for the rest of your nice message, you made some good points. Who knows, maybe in time hard drive capacity will become so outrageously inexpensive and large 5-10 gig's for a movie will be comparable to the roughly 5 meg's per MP3 most digital music users have on their machines...
Thanks again, it's nice when users on here can have respectful discussions
. You're exhausting and rude. I'm not wasting my time by addressing you any further. Good luck with all that math, you seem to have the desire to prove how right you are compared to everyone else. Napoleon complex much? Hmmmmm Yeah, I do remember that, and I have strongly believed that would be the best approach in handling such huge amounts of data. Hope they do it...
Either way, as a self-proclaimed Apple die-hard, I think you're giving up way too easily on Apple regarding bandwidth being an issue that stops them from doing 720p content. Now that they're doing more and more consumer devices, can you be a nay-sayer on the ones you don't like and still be consider a die-hard Apple fan? Maybe you'll have to start qualifying that as "die-hard Apple Computer fan" to keep everything straight?
lol true true. In all honesty, the concept of the
TV is great, I have no actual issues with it. I only made a few comments/concerns that one user in particular decided on slamming me for (admist all the other user comments that echo roughly the same concerns). Some people just like to troll message boards I suppose. In the end, as was the first iPod, the TV is a first generation product that success will hopefully lead to better and improved online entertainment content. You have to start somewhere right? I just wish the people that read some of the comments wouldn't jump all over everyone for no reason, as if they just insulted their mother or something. People take things personally and then attack people in such a disrespectful manner. It is amazing how much I've learned studying social psych just what online anonymity brings out in people, once there isn't a face to face connection sometimes true colors come out and they can be downright ugly... Bigger Market
I think thats the point
Are Media Computers, mac mini's hooked to your TV as better quality, better control, more formats available solution YES
But does that mean they will appeal to the broad market , consumers, boardrooms etc NO
The whole purpose of Apple TV is to appeal to the broader market.
Is Apple's new 8 core machine a better computer than an Imac YES , will it appeal to the broader bigger market NO Imacs will (or macbooks etc)
So I am not disputing which is better and does more , I am saying Apple TV is a more elagent , simple solution that will appeal to the masses.
I think thats the point
Are Media Computers, mac mini's hooked to your TV as better quality, better control, more formats available solution YES
But does that mean they will appeal to the broad market , consumers, boardrooms etc NO
The whole purpose of Apple TV is to appeal to the broader market.
Is Apple's new 8 core machine a better computer than an Imac YES , will it appeal to the broader bigger market NO Imacs will (or macbooks etc)
So I am not disputing which is better and does more , I am saying Apple TV is a more elagent , simple solution that will appeal to the masses.
You make a good point, in the end, you have your own preferences and if you can think of a way that suites you better go for it, but the majority of the people out there aren't like that, they see the
TV and say wow thats cool they dont think wow thats cool but i can just hook up my computer to my TV with a connector cable for $5 bucks or whatever.
IMHO Apple should demo the units using 720p content, even if it is just shorts from upcoming movies. The low quality movies do not look the best on those sweet monitors. May even give a bad impression to a potential customer.
About target .... If they are going to show it and learn the product they will sell it. If they can't even remember where it is in the store and or you can not get help, it will sit there and collect dust.
About target .... If they are going to show it and learn the product they will sell it. If they can't even remember where it is in the store and or you can not get help, it will sit there and collect dust.
If we have questions and need some advice .... what about the general public? They are in bigger trouble.
I vote bad idea to have people with no clue sell Apple products.
Honestly, get over yourself. I never attacked you personally. Did I call you a moron? Did I insult your mother? No. I simply pointed out the errors of your arguments, you inexplicably turned around and attacked my explanation with a straw man position, then you got defensive and started taking it personally, dropping a few names and throwing out some smug references about your experience and professional knowledge (despite which, you were still wrong). Whatever. Your points about HD and H.264 compression were erroneous and I clearly pointed out why. If you can't deal with that, I'm sorry. I'm moving on.
You got a good point here- the wider the audience (and less focused) the more likely to inspire ill feelings - especailly if the buyers aren't familiar with the conventions of the system. It's a guarantee that some folks will be disgruntled for one reason or another-
On the otehr hand, I think it's likely that a lot of people will get turned on by the ease of use and simplicity of the interface. And for those folks who find it a good experience, they are more likely to try other Apple products. I think the most likely experience of a new user is gonna be good. Therefore - I'm hoping this will be a good distribution deal.
Could it be that the copy of "The Incredibles" (an older movie) was from before the iTunes Store re-encoded its videos at a higher resolution, whereas the "Heroes" episode was encoded in the current higher resolution that the iTS sells stuff in?
Whatever the reason, it's a shame that Apple hasn't addressed this issue. Some of their demo video on the AppleTV looks awful.
I downloaded "The Prestige" DVD from the iTS and it looked a gazillion times better on my 50" plasma than "The Incredibles" did on the smaller screen at the Apple Store.
Garbage in, Garbage out.
On a side note, the number of newbies in this thread (especially 1 post newbies) is pretty interesting. I guess AppleTV really gets some folks riled up.
That is the part I don't understand, why Apple picked crappy quality videos to demo their new hit product? and to make it worst, show it in a large display where the low image quality is more apparent
I don't believe most people here fault the hardware, most fault the crapy demos that Apple selected to show off the device. Yes if you have good quality video the Apple TV shows it well.
I think that Target is kinda crazy to resell stuff that goes with the iTunes Store.
Didn't Steve make a Target reference in his keynote, implying they were the next company for the iTunes Store to surpass?
And I thought Target freaked out about the iTunes Store selling DVDs, too?
Now they're going to sell the AppleTV, a device that may encourage people to buy even more content from one of their competitors? Oye.
LOL, Target is hopeing that people buy their DVD's rip them and play them on the Apple TV devices they sell.
Target should move the Apple TV to the DVD section of the store and sell it with a copy of Handbrake bundled, LOL. May sell more units than apple that way.
Grow up.
As a PhD student at Columbia in social psych, I have a few colleagues you might benefit from seeing. Seriously, just say the word...Now back to the thread that you hijacked for whatever reasons. This was about the
TV, not you after all...
I guess Apples philosophy is, 'more exposure, more sales' it knida makes sense, but not really...Target?
Whenever I go into my local Target, the display XBox 360 is either turned off or stuck on a set-up screen. I expect the same for the
Is Apple forgetting why they started opening Apple Retail Stores in the first place?
That's because 360's crash all the dang time. I was at a Target the other day and it had the Red Ring of Death. If the
TV is reliable it shouldn't need any attention by CSR's. If the TV is worth anything you shouldn't need anyone "pushing" the product like some car salesman.Better then Wally world.
Yes, demo units DO show poor quality video...
I went into the Apple Store Regents Street in London yesterday. There were 5 or 6 Apple TV's connected to Sony widescreen TVs. a) Not one person was playing with them, everyone was using the Macbooks & iMacs or iPods. b) I played with the Apple TV and although it's got a tidy pretty interface that itself is of high quality, the video demos were of appalling quality - obviously scaled up. As a final comment, and this coming from a gadget fan and Apple lover, I don't find Apple TV that compelling. I believe that until it does a lot more (including acting as a TV receiver / Sky + / TiVO type box), Apple are going to have a lot of work ahead of them educating the consumer to the Apple TV's value proposition. At this point, it is not even a 'TV' as the consumer knows the world. It is basically an Apple streaming media solution - with some local storage. Roll on Version 2.0!
I went into the Apple Store Regents Street in London yesterday. There were 5 or 6 Apple TV's connected to Sony widescreen TVs. a) Not one person was playing with them, everyone was using the Macbooks & iMacs or iPods. b) I played with the Apple TV and although it's got a tidy pretty interface that itself is of high quality, the video demos were of appalling quality - obviously scaled up. As a final comment, and this coming from a gadget fan and Apple lover, I don't find Apple TV that compelling. I believe that until it does a lot more (including acting as a TV receiver / Sky + / TiVO type box), Apple are going to have a lot of work ahead of them educating the consumer to the Apple TV's value proposition. At this point, it is not even a 'TV' as the consumer knows the world. It is basically an Apple streaming media solution - with some local storage. Roll on Version 2.0!
Grow up.
Physician, heal thyself.
i download 720p AVI torrents of 24 episodes and they have 5.1 surround and they are only 1 gig so one would figure 1080 could be 2 gigs or less if compressed right. I wish apple would embrace AVI more
Gag...sorry, I got some throw up in my mouth. Who gives a sh*t what you do or who you know. As a graduate of Southwest Texas State I think you are full of yourself.
Check before you speak. I was surprised by how bad the in store demos were. My apple TV at home is great, but if I only saw the store demo, I'd be concerned.