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Originally posted by medea
they also make a statement about mac consumers being smarter, I'll see if you can spot it......
That it?
I doubt thios, that I've never see Coles Myer's store sell Apple products (which comes to mind that our Target isn't assOciated with Target USA). Which means that it's Definately no chance of seing aple productas being sold in a coles myer owned store. I wondr what it be like in the UK if a big cdepartment store decioded to sell aopple products thereor in New Zwealand. Only Traget stores sell apples products. Wait a minute, Iaw a Target on TV-not computers-although I'd visualise a mini Apple Centr in thje m,usic departtment, nexct to the Siny playtstations. Aklthough, maybe I hope thatour target doesn;t sell spl,ees computerswwhy? maybr profits-I heard thsat they weren't going to good. Oanly prfect the in US targets.
Originally posted by xrhajj
There is nothing wrong with Target I just think if Apple is going to go that route, (Super Department Stores) they should go to Wal-Mart, because they have a bigger client base!!! (Mo, Mo Mo Money!!)
Selling iPods at Wal-mart is actually a very intelligent idea and would be a smart move for Apple. This is because Apple is trying to get more PC users to switch to the Mac by showing them how good it can really be. Now you can be sure that since PC users like cheap stuff, then a lot of them must shop at Wal-Mart because Wal-mart has low prices. If this is true then the iPod can really reach those masses and masses of Windows users that Apple is targeting, even if Wal-mart can't sell the iPod at low prices (which I think they can, Look here).
Forget about Mac users shopping at Wal-mart though, for ya'll are just obsessed with expensive stuff! But let PC users shop for cheap if that's the way they want to shop. Think about it, stupid!
Originally posted by Shrek
Selling iPods at Wal-mart is actually a very intelligent idea and would be a smart move for Apple. This is because Apple is trying to get more PC users to switch to the Mac by showing them how good it can really be. Now you can be sure that since PC users like cheap stuff, then a lot of them must shop at Wal-Mart because Wal-mart has low prices. If this is true then the iPod can really reach those masses and masses of Windows users that Apple is targeting, even if Wal-mart can't sell the iPod at low prices (which I think they can, .
Forget about Mac users shopping at Wal-mart though, for ya'll are just obsessed with expensive stuff! But let PC users shop for cheap if that's the way they want to shop. Think about it, stupid!
iPod+Wal-mart=bad idea
Apple shouldn't be attracting all the manstream, just certain parts.
Why? Cuz it takes a certain person to like a Mac.
Look at this community. It's a diverse, yet similar group of people.
Now go to a PC board and I'm sure you're going to see a bit of a difference in the community and how they relate to one another.
Wal-mart is part of that whole pop vs art argument.
Most of the time pop appeals to the vast majority of people and eventually fades out to nothing, while art sticks around.
It may have a moment of fame from time to time, but that's really not what it's about.
Do you really expect somewhing you buy at Wal-mart to last you long time?
No it doesn't take a certain kind of person to like a Mac. And whoever thought that it would take a certain kind of person to like an iPod? NOT!!! This could save Apple's stock price for crying out loud!
Now you're really p***ing me off! Good deals don't mean bad quality. I get a lot of nice stuff from Wal-mart that lasts a long time. I'd say the only reason why Wal-mart has great prices is because they buy in bulk. Duh!
Re: So Walmart shoppers are white trash
I've never been to a Walmart. However, I have been to the Home Depot that happens to share a parking lot with a Walmart, and one side is occupied by fairly nice cars, while the other has these lowered crap-mobiles with rap music coming out of them, and people arriving with 7 people crammed in the back of a pickup truck. The few nice cars over there have NASCAR stickers or confederate flag license plates on them.
What's it like not to be white trash? I'm not sure, but I think that you are not allowed to live in a home that has wheels on it, or have a vehicle with wheels in your yard that no longer works...
Originally posted by digitalbiker
I just have one question and I want this answered by someone who has never bought a single item from Walmart in his or her life.
What's it like to not be white trash?
Huh?... NO responses, I guess we must all be guilty of shopping at Walmart and we are all white trash.
I've never been to a Walmart. However, I have been to the Home Depot that happens to share a parking lot with a Walmart, and one side is occupied by fairly nice cars, while the other has these lowered crap-mobiles with rap music coming out of them, and people arriving with 7 people crammed in the back of a pickup truck. The few nice cars over there have NASCAR stickers or confederate flag license plates on them.
What's it like not to be white trash? I'm not sure, but I think that you are not allowed to live in a home that has wheels on it, or have a vehicle with wheels in your yard that no longer works...
Re: Re: So Walmart shoppers are white trash
Hmmm. Not like that at my neighborhood Wal-mart.
You ain't seen nothin' until you've tried it. It's all the same quality, for less. That's all it is.
Just what makes people think that because someone can sell something for a lower price that it is not as good? Explain that to me.
Hmmm. Not like that at my neighborhood Wal-mart.
You ain't seen nothin' until you've tried it. It's all the same quality, for less. That's all it is.
Just what makes people think that because someone can sell something for a lower price that it is not as good? Explain that to me.
Yes it does. Like I said, go to a PC forums site with about the same number of members and you'll notice a big difference.
It's a bit hard to explain but you'll definately notice a different vibe in the community.
Originally posted by Shrek
Now you're really p***ing me off! Good deals don't mean bad quality. I get a lot of nice stuff from Wal-mart that lasts a long time. I'd say the only reason why Wal-mart has great prices is because they buy in bulk. Duh!
You're right, they do buy in bulk, the cheap stuff.
Look, my whole family (me included) was raised on Wal-mart stuff and while somethings have lasted longer than others, very little of I can say is actual quality.
Target's not great, but it's more along the lines of the kinds of people Apple wants to sell to.
Originally posted by Shrek
No it doesn't take a certain kind of person to like a Mac. And whoever thought that it would take a certain kind of person to like an iPod? NOT!!! This could save Apple's stock price for crying out loud!
Now you're really p***ing me off! Good deals don't mean bad quality. I get a lot of nice stuff from Wal-mart that lasts a long time. I'd say the only reason why Wal-mart has great prices is because they buy in bulk. Duh!
Look Shrek, I'll repeat the quote "As a result, it can sit on store shelves and doesn't require the kind of customer education typically needed to sell a Mac."
Mac users are a different kind of consumer base and yes it does take a certain type of person to like a Mac. And if your getting pissed off because someone doesnt like Walmart then dont because it doesnt have anything to do with you, unless you work at Walmart that is.........
Oh and I doubt that Walmart has low prices because of just bulk, Walmart is owned by the same people as Sams club and THOSE are the bulk people. Walmart sells a lot of things "at-cost" and thats how they have the low prices.
I never said that Wal-mart isn't for everybody, I have bought and will probably continue to buy stuff from them, but only cuz I can't afford better quality things.
Wal-mart's great for people who are on a tite budget like me, but if I weren't, you can bet you're sweet orgre ass that I would most of my sh*t somewhere else.
Wal-mart's great for people who are on a tite budget like me, but if I weren't, you can bet you're sweet orgre ass that I would most of my sh*t somewhere else.
Ya, ya, whatever.
You know if I were rich I'd still buy from Wal-mart.
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You know if I were rich I'd still buy from Wal-mart.
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Originally posted by iShater
I used to shop Wal-Mart all the time ... then one day I walked into Target .... end of story
But then again, this is not why we have this thread. We all have to remember that Apple is probably doing things one step at a time and might be able to get something back from Target, e.g. special promos for the product etc. I usually don't think of Wal-Mart as the place to buy electronics (more of a peripherals kinda place I think).
Just my 3cs.
Hey *******
thats Fncked up. wallmart is inexpensive and
some people are not fortunate enough to shop
anywhere else. one of my best friends is so
poor she does here grocery shopping at the
99cent store, has all her teeth and doesn't judge
people by how much cash they have....dick.
Cheer up Shrek!
You are correct!
Ignore the elitist Mac users who think they are "special" because they bought a Mac. There are a few of those in every crowd, PC users have their elitist snobs too.
Just remember that Apple is trying to make money. They are trying to make money by selling as many quality products to as many people as possible.
Apple is proving this by bringing out a Wndows & Mac version of the iPod and they are marketing it in stores that have mass merchandising outlet stores around the country.
Thats the bottom line. Apple will sell a Mac to anyone, anywhere,and at anytime if it helps them to grow and make more money.
Is this a great country or what!!
You are correct!
Ignore the elitist Mac users who think they are "special" because they bought a Mac. There are a few of those in every crowd, PC users have their elitist snobs too.
Just remember that Apple is trying to make money. They are trying to make money by selling as many quality products to as many people as possible.
Apple is proving this by bringing out a Wndows & Mac version of the iPod and they are marketing it in stores that have mass merchandising outlet stores around the country.
Thats the bottom line. Apple will sell a Mac to anyone, anywhere,and at anytime if it helps them to grow and make more money.
Is this a great country or what!!
Re: The true story behind No Macs at Best Buy Circuit City
I must take issue with this. I used to work with them myself. I was also a regular power rep for both Circuit City and CompUSA and yes a lot of the times if was the chains fault as well as Apple's fault. I never fed rumors or misinformation to people. In fact I discouraged any spreading of rumors as just a waste of time. I no longer work with them since I switched jobs and moved. Come see my real job and my education and then tell me how I am not knowledgeable about a "REAL JOB".
While I have seen my share of bad reps from Marketsource, I have also seen stores who did not care about Apple products. In the area I was in I had 4 Circuit Citys to work with on a weekly basis. Only one had a manager truly interested in selling the product. One store had employees who use to purposely break the keyboards on the iBooks. How do I know it was employees? Managers fired one for doing it. Other stores just did not care. No matter how I try and train them in Circuit City most of them took the attitude that Macs sell themselves and only sold them when someone asked about them. Only one or two guys in a total of 4 stores had any actual interest in it. Most of the Circuit City guys care about the commission and who ever had the higher commission got pushed harder. Basic fact and anyone can confirm it for you who works there.
The CompUSA I worked at was a tad better. They had managers and sales people actually interested in selling the computers. As for the department falling apart yes that happens. My time though wasn't allocated towards straightening things up. It was more allocated towards sales and training. I barely get 30 minutes out of 1.5 hours of time to do the clean up. Barely 30 minutes because my travel time was included. I get paid for 1.5 hours and thats all I can afford to spend there. Apple should have allowed more time or they should have got on the store people to do their stinking job and straighten the Apple section. The Apple rep's job was not to straighten the store. Thats the store peoples job. Thats why they have paid people to do the job.
So with a broad brush stroke you accuse all power reps of being bad and excuse the stores from ignoring their own facility? Do you even know how a real job works? Work as a stocker in a retail outfit with a good management crew and see what you will be doing. You will be the one straightening the stuff and making sure its presentable. Not someone else.
I made sure I did the best I could given what Apple and Marketsource gave me.
If you were unsatisfied you need to complain to Apple as well as the store themselves. Not about the power reps.
Although there were bad power reps, there are bad apples in every bunch. The guy I replaced just up and disappeared one day without any notice.
I must take issue with this. I used to work with them myself. I was also a regular power rep for both Circuit City and CompUSA and yes a lot of the times if was the chains fault as well as Apple's fault. I never fed rumors or misinformation to people. In fact I discouraged any spreading of rumors as just a waste of time. I no longer work with them since I switched jobs and moved. Come see my real job and my education and then tell me how I am not knowledgeable about a "REAL JOB".
While I have seen my share of bad reps from Marketsource, I have also seen stores who did not care about Apple products. In the area I was in I had 4 Circuit Citys to work with on a weekly basis. Only one had a manager truly interested in selling the product. One store had employees who use to purposely break the keyboards on the iBooks. How do I know it was employees? Managers fired one for doing it. Other stores just did not care. No matter how I try and train them in Circuit City most of them took the attitude that Macs sell themselves and only sold them when someone asked about them. Only one or two guys in a total of 4 stores had any actual interest in it. Most of the Circuit City guys care about the commission and who ever had the higher commission got pushed harder. Basic fact and anyone can confirm it for you who works there.
The CompUSA I worked at was a tad better. They had managers and sales people actually interested in selling the computers. As for the department falling apart yes that happens. My time though wasn't allocated towards straightening things up. It was more allocated towards sales and training. I barely get 30 minutes out of 1.5 hours of time to do the clean up. Barely 30 minutes because my travel time was included. I get paid for 1.5 hours and thats all I can afford to spend there. Apple should have allowed more time or they should have got on the store people to do their stinking job and straighten the Apple section. The Apple rep's job was not to straighten the store. Thats the store peoples job. Thats why they have paid people to do the job.
So with a broad brush stroke you accuse all power reps of being bad and excuse the stores from ignoring their own facility? Do you even know how a real job works? Work as a stocker in a retail outfit with a good management crew and see what you will be doing. You will be the one straightening the stuff and making sure its presentable. Not someone else.
I made sure I did the best I could given what Apple and Marketsource gave me.
If you were unsatisfied you need to complain to Apple as well as the store themselves. Not about the power reps.
Although there were bad power reps, there are bad apples in every bunch. The guy I replaced just up and disappeared one day without any notice.
Originally posted by iShater
I used to shop Wal-Mart all the time ... then one day I walked into Target .... end of story
Sounds like a Switch campaign to me!
Look, I'm a PC user, I've never owned a Mac, so I don't think I'm 'special' like you say.
Yes there are zealots, but what we're trying to point out here are most of the people who shop at Wal-mart are not the kind of people who neccecarelly want a $399 iPod.
People shop at Wal-mart for different reason's besides price, but price is a big part of it.
A lot of people who use Macs belong to a different community then the people who use PCs and shop at Wal-mart.
I never said those people are better, just more likely to buy Mac.
What's the big f*cking deal anywayz, chances are you have both a Target and a Wal-mart within driving distance so quit yer bitchin.
Insert sarcastic smiley here.
Target or anywhere else.
I'm sure Apple doesn't give a crap about whether some of you guys think it's going to be white trash to sell them at Target or not. They're going to make a lot of money. And I would think that you guys would support that given Apple's financial situation. I for one want to buy another Mac in 2-3-5 years.
I'm sure Apple doesn't give a crap about whether some of you guys think it's going to be white trash to sell them at Target or not. They're going to make a lot of money. And I would think that you guys would support that given Apple's financial situation. I for one want to buy another Mac in 2-3-5 years.
I wondered why this thread was so long. Everybody's talking about Wal-Mart. It's a store, some people who go to some stores are poorer, some are just cheap. I myself fall somewhere in the middle and shop at all sorts of stores.
On topic, I think any exposure for Apple will be good at this point.
To those confused, the Windows version of the iPod WILL NOT work like the Mac version on a Mac. Technically, you may be able to use it as a hard drive, but it will not function as a Mac iPod. Not to mention the fact that the Windows version has a 4 pin firewire connection, not the 6 pin you find on Macs (and actually a lot of PCs). There may be a way to do it, but as someone else posted, Apple says you can't (or they won't).
You don't need a hack to use an iPod with both. Like someone else said, just buy xPlay. Mediafour makes some great cross-platform software. It would have been easier for Apple just to sell 1 iPod (with 3 different drive sizes) and include xPlay, instead of a Windows version incompatible with Apple, and vice versa.
Of course, if you buy a Windows iPod, and love it so much you buy a Mac, you'd have to format it to work as a regular Mac version. Then you'd have to buy xPlay or not use it on your PC, because the PC wouldn't recognize it anymore. Even as a hard drive. And since Apple won't support it after you format it, it might not work as an iPod anymore and you'd have a very expensive little hard drive.
Or a paperweight if it doesn't work at all.
On topic, I think any exposure for Apple will be good at this point.
To those confused, the Windows version of the iPod WILL NOT work like the Mac version on a Mac. Technically, you may be able to use it as a hard drive, but it will not function as a Mac iPod. Not to mention the fact that the Windows version has a 4 pin firewire connection, not the 6 pin you find on Macs (and actually a lot of PCs). There may be a way to do it, but as someone else posted, Apple says you can't (or they won't).
You don't need a hack to use an iPod with both. Like someone else said, just buy xPlay. Mediafour makes some great cross-platform software. It would have been easier for Apple just to sell 1 iPod (with 3 different drive sizes) and include xPlay, instead of a Windows version incompatible with Apple, and vice versa.
Of course, if you buy a Windows iPod, and love it so much you buy a Mac, you'd have to format it to work as a regular Mac version. Then you'd have to buy xPlay or not use it on your PC, because the PC wouldn't recognize it anymore. Even as a hard drive. And since Apple won't support it after you format it, it might not work as an iPod anymore and you'd have a very expensive little hard drive.
Or a paperweight if it doesn't work at all.
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