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i mean how could it be possible that Apple is failing to impress the customers while Samsung even after their exploding phones is doing very well
 
Haha! Yup. This was a nonsense decision, as is any attempt to justify it.

I could live with it if the mouse itself was good, but it's terrible too. And it costs a fortune. I've spent my share on Apple stuff in the last few years for sure but this was the first product where I used it.. stopped using it.. went back to it as maybe I wasn't giving it a fair chance.. then firmly decided it was time to retire it. Too many phantom inputs and other weird behaviour. Back to a normal mouse now, and much happier.
 
I could live with it if the mouse itself was good, but it's terrible too. And it costs a fortune. I've spent my share on Apple stuff in the last few years for sure but this was the first product where I used it.. stopped using it.. went back to it as maybe I wasn't giving it a fair chance.. then firmly decided it was time to retire it. Too many phantom inputs and other weird behaviour. Back to a normal mouse now, and much happier.

I personally like the Magic Mouse but I think I'm in a small minority as a lot of people have issues with it.

Apple haven't exactly got a stellar reputation with mice (hockey puck mouse being the most memorable), but at least there are plenty of alternatives out there for people who don't like them.
 
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Still no correction or update on MacRumors story, of course.
ArsTechnica has published a correction to their own mistaken story on this topic. This is how you can differentiate a site that practices some form of journalism and one that is simply a page view generator.
 
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it sounds like you'd have to either have absolute faith in apple that they built this thing perfectly, or you'd have to literally be made of money to justify buying this thing.

i've had many apple products over the years, and they all had to have things replaced - screens, fans, hard drives, ram, etc. i've done everything myself. i have even been able to upgrade them on my own because the prices apple charges for upgrades is disgusting.

their drive to make things as thin as possible has gotten to the point where it's ridiculous and is actually hurting their product. i think that form vs function is a balancing act that apple has all wrong these days.
 
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it sounds like you'd have to either have absolute faith in apple that they built this thing perfectly, or you'd have to literally be made of money to justify buying this thing.

i've had many apple products over the years, and they all had to have things replaced - screens, fans, hard drives, ram, etc. i've done everything myself. i have even been able to upgrade them on my own because the prices apple charges for upgrades is disgusting.

their drive to make things as thin as possible has gotten to the point where it's ridiculous and is actually hurting their product. i think that form vs function is a balancing act that apple has all wrong these days.
Here's a sampling of the wit and wisdom of keithjfuller:

every apple fanboy who has been saying the samsung's oleds are terrible and apple's lcds are the greatest things on the planet are now going to claim that apple invented oled screens and that all the android phones are copying them.
I guess reason isn't allowed on this forum. No matter what I say it gets removed for not worshipping the cult of Apple...
I heard from inside sources how Apple plans on changing the world for the better - they are going to start selling Samsung products.
Wow... You are the face of Apple customers... Unlimited money, spending without regard, and completely irrational...
Apple Watch has got to be the stupidest product ever created. I am amazed that people are willing to spend loads of money on a tiny iPhone screen that does 1% of what an iPhone does, and still needs an iPhone to work...
Apple doesn't have to put the best tech in their stuff because fanboys buy it anyway. They leave the best products to Samsung.
iOS sure is pretty, but it does nothing.
i'm sorry that i hurt your feelings by saying that i'm leaving apple, but that's just how it is.
TOMORROW!?!?!? how about now.
 
I personally like the Magic Mouse but I think I'm in a small minority as a lot of people have issues with it.

Apple haven't exactly got a stellar reputation with mice (hockey puck mouse being the most memorable), but at least there are plenty of alternatives out there for people who don't like them.

Indeed. Yet I love their keyboards. Even on my Windows PC's I've always used Apple keyboards. I'm certainly interested to try the butterfly type keyboard on the new MacBook Pro, even though I'll never actually own one as.. well.. I think they're a colossal let down in just about every way.
 
I would say 90% of the people can't shell out 2000K+ just because a new laptop, still under warranty, breaks down
I think you mean 2K or 2000 :p

Not sure about that percentage but yes, I can imagine that lots of people wouldn't be able to.

Personally, I wouldn't get a $2000 laptop then. I'd rather work on a $1000 laptop and have another $1000 in the bank, just in case.
 
How so? The grills are closed. They aren't drilled through.



It appears you are working off of the assumption that it would require air flow(through) - it does not.
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Are they speaker grills... or heatsinks/vents? The latter seems more likely to me.

Congrats on knowing things! The great thing is, even if not done by design, the benefits are still there.
 
Here's a sampling of the wit and wisdom of keithjfuller:
i'm not sure what your point is?

my household an imac, two macbook pros, an appletv, an ipad, and an iphone. i am incredibly familiar with apple products. however, they have been taking massive steps backwards in function (as most creative professionals agree), and have replacing quality products with gimmicks.
 
iFixit has added one more picture to their teardown (Step 13).
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You can see 80 holes going all through the metal to the tweeter. No sign of where the microphones are.
 
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Interesting design choice. Sounds like the case design was done before everything else. But hey, the speakers are much better than the old ones so i'm not complaining.

It's good to see how Apple are improving the speaker quality in all of their products lately. Kudos.
 
MR needs to update their original post as iFixit updated theirs. From Ars Technica:

Update: iFixit has updated its teardown with some new information—while some of the holes in the speaker grilles do appear to be cosmetic, others are used for the laptop's tweeters. Most sound is routed through the laptop's air vents as previously reported.

People seem all too eager to think the worst of Apple these days, to the extent of jumping to conclusions and making knee-jerk comments without bothering to ascertain the facts first.

If people can't find a reason, then they will just make one up.
 
Am I reading the data sheet for the ram correctly? The Samsung ram was released in 2012, and is rated at ~1066MHz??? Is this somehow run in tandem to yield 2133MHz?

Briefly looking through some of the early Geekbench scores, it seems the new rMBP doesn’t have much of an edge, if any over the predecessor. Upon looking closer, it seems the memory tests are slower on the newer model. This doesn’t add up per Apple’s claim! Is this yet another crippling disappointment?

Edit: From what I understand, DDR is what makes it run at 2133. But 2012 ram!?
 
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Am I reading the data sheet for the ram correctly? The Samsung ram was released in 2012, and is rated at ~1066MHz??? Is this somehow run in tandem to yield 2133MHz?

Briefly looking through some of the early Geekbench scores, it seems the new rMBP doesn’t have much of an edge, if any over the predecessor. Upon looking closer, it seems the memory tests are slower on the newer model. This doesn’t add up per Apple’s claim! Is this yet another crippling disappointment?

don't say that too loud. your comment might get deleted.
 
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