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24 hours is all day and night. :D

Not in Alaska! It's all day, all the time right now. :D

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why cant they just put a drop of thermal paste? wouldnt that be better for the temperature although already low?

To borrow a line from Lethal Weapon, "Intel here has forgotten more about applying thermal paste to helper chips then you or I will ever know". :D
 
thank you for a great review

i just bought the NEW macbook air today, its the cats gonads

heres my review:
Working off formerly a 13" macbook air mid 2011, I just bought this new 2013 model with the Haswell CPU and low power consumption infrastructure.

Off a full charge, I disconnected 3 hours 40 mins and had an external drive connected the entire time, restarted 4 times, and did NONSTOP heavy application installs (Office suite, Photoshop etc.), a total of 23 applications, and ran youtube vids in the background the entire time, and after all of that nonstop heavy loading, I had 76% on my battery, of which id have around 35% on my older Macbook Air.

Further still, the entire unit has run UTTERLY COOL during this EXTREMELY heavy loading, installing and heavy 1080P video graphics play. My other Macbook Air would be almost too hot to touch underneath near back under same conditions.

Even without 802ac (new Wifi connection thru the new Air), I notice roughly 25% faster throughput on likewise file downloads using my new Macbook Air than that of my older version airport extreme.

My Macbook Air has been without a question my most treasured gem of "go-to" Mac product hands down, I own all of them (2 Airs, Macbook Pro, MacMini etc),...I was skeptical when I shelled out $1099 today for the new Haswell Air and its presumed prognosticated "crazy long" battery life and improved speeds overall; but the hype isn't hype, its real and amazing. The mere NOTION that I can overload this Air with App installs, and have a 2.5" HD attached for nearly 4 hours, run 1080P Youtube vids,...and still be at 76% Batt life is just, well, its stunning.

Tested out the NEW dual (stereo) mic and it IS much nicer in record, additionally the camera/vid is much sharper and crisper than my other Mac Air. Considering the price point is lower on these new Airs than the older ones, I give the new Macbook Airs a "110%". Having repaired laptops (non mac) in the past, and owned at least 20X more laptops than most consumers, I don't lightly conclude this is the cornerstone workhorse for everything I dare consider doing, fast got faster, and battery life now is enough to make a crusty "hates everything" person like myself nearly cry with joy. Congrats Apple! Homerun on this lovely gem.

This new Macbook Air brings TRUE definition to "disconnected" and "portable" to those who want to do a LOT of work free of power socket! Genuine portable is finally here, ...no more staring at the battery % to rush to shut down!

I appreciate your very thorough and detailed review: the battery life, horse power and cooler running system sound great. One question: did you get an Ultimate configuration at the store?

I hope I can continue to hold off on buying a new Mac until next year. My iMac is showing its age even with the 12gb of RAM installed (2 months away from being 3 years old.)
 
Why would anyone be buying a 13 inch Macbook Air as the 13 inch Retina Macbook pro which has almost the same size and weight but better performance and Retina display (the price difference isn't that big).......especially if the 13 inch Retina get upgraded to Haswell this year too.

Pro / Air
Height 1.9* / 1.7
Wide 31.4 / 32.5
Dept 21.9 / 22.7
Weight 1.62 / 1.35 (Kg)

* expected to be reduced to 1.8 inch.

My prediction for next year: only one line of Macbooks (Retina) including an 11 inch version.
 
It seems odd to me to find it odd to want to carry around a decent sized media library.

It's an odd request when there is a 512 GB upper limit on storage. The selling point of the Air is hardly it's gigantic storage possibilities. Although I think 512 GB is phenomenal in this form factor, unbelievable really.
 
:eek: What are the people on this forum who have said they will not buy Samsung products going to do??? Hopefully they are not in the market for the new Macbook Air.

That is Silly. You are buying an Apple product. Moreover, Apple normally sources the Flash from multiple vendors. Samsung itself sources most of its components from third parties.
 
The rMBP is not faster (no PCIe-SSD, no Haswell-processor, no 802.11ac, ...).

Haswell is only modestly faster than a similar processor of the MBP. The MBP runs at a far higher clock rate.......so it is faster ( 2.5 versus 1.3 Ghz). Difference is mainly in battery life.

Next to this I wrote "if the MBP get upgraded to Haswell too"......yes and PCIe-SSD and 802.11ac.....

Geek Benchmark score
2013 MA 7097
2013 MBPr 7931 (i7)
2013 MBPr 6829 (i5)

Already similar / faster even before the upgrade to Haswell!
 
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You have one year warranty, three years with AppleCare. In the UK, two years if the problem was present when you purchased the device. So ask yourself: If there are bugs with Haswell chips, would Apple know about them or not? If Apple knew about them and they would affect customers, would Apple ship a product when they _know_ they have to fix it?


Thank you. I only would like to know if the PCH in Air has the problem or not. I don't want to buy a faulty product.

JP
 
:eek: What are the people on this forum who have said they will not buy Samsung products going to do??? Hopefully they are not in the market for the new Macbook Air.

No problem with Samsung commodity parts...however, Samsung built products are a different story all together. I wouldn't care if the Samsung product used only parts from other manufacturers, the issue is their choice of build quality and design for me.
 
That battery is simply astonishing. I have a 9800mAh battery that I use for an electronic device that I built and it is the size of a VHS cassette and weighs a full half of what the MBA does.
 
It looks like the Air 11" will be perfect for me to tote around for some small photo edits when I do some shoots. Looking forward to it .. Retina, while it would be nice .. isn't a must as I am going to do the editing on a desktop with a large LCD monitor.
 
First off, there is no HDD that will fit into an MBA. Second, you have the option to upgrade to a 500 GB SSD. Not enough? What -- you need constant access to your collection of Seinfeld reruns and Star Trek wherever you are? As one of my virtual gfs used to say, back in the usenet days: puhleeze!!!

There are many of us who have this or similar problems. My iTunes library is about 1.2TB, and I still have 1000+ CDs to rip and haven't even started on movies / TV shows, etc.

I would not expect to carry all of that around on each of my portable iDevices, but would appreciate 1) larger capacities to get a larger fraction of my content synched and 2) better tools to manage what is and is not synched.

Right now, I just manually manage everything, but I guess I should explore the "synch only certain playlists" options for concern #2 ;)
 
No thanks. I need something with hard drive capacity. Casual System would be fine, but I have a HUGE iTunes Library of just under 400 GB, mostly movies.

Let me have an Air with a large capacity HDD or SSD then we will talk :D

As somebody who has to deal with large files such as video recordings; 500 Gb really isn't enough. Not everybody uses their machine for Facebook or Word.

I've never understood the compulsion of people to complain that the MBA is not capable of doing things that it was never designed to do.
 
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Other changes that the iFixit team found include a redesigned AirPort card that provides 802.11ac Wi-Fi and an expanded heat sink covering both the CPU and GPU, although the GPU does not have any thermal compound applied to assist with transferring heat to the heat sink.

That's not the GPU, but the PCH. The GPU is in the same die as the CPU, this is the chipset.

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That battery is simply astonishing. I have a 9800mAh battery that I use for an electronic device that I built and it is the size of a VHS cassette and weighs a full half of what the MBA does.

At what voltage?
 
All-day battery life is such a trendy phrase.

Except that in this case, it may actually be accurate. I mean, there's no way that in a business setting you're using the computer for 12 hrs solid, so with breaks here and there you could potentially get 16 hours of use out of it.

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That's not the GPU, but the PCH. The GPU is in the same die as the CPU, this is the chipset.

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At what voltage?

8.4, so my battery is ~82 Wh, vs 54Wh for the MBA battery, but the batter in the MBA can't be a third the size.
 
wish they added an ips monitor even if it meant 1 hour loss of battery life and an extra $100
 
You're the one that assumes that everybody uses their computer the same way you use yours. I'm just putting myself as an example that some users may require more space. It doesn't matter whether he wants to watch movies or edit footage.
You don't know him, you don't know me. So stop assumptions that 500 GB is enough for everybody.

*edit* wrong quote

Come on... You sounds like guy who is only willing to buy Mac Mini to install Windows to play FarCry 3 and claim it's perfectly capable but lack of fps... :(

If you want to edit footage, get iMac/Mac Pro. If you're on the fly and have to use laptop to accomplish works temporary, then 500GB will be good enough. I edit my 1080i on a 256GB hard drive on the fly with a machine that's not even an SSD.

Work your way around it. It's laptop. If you want something that's movable but still able to handle these tasks, get iMac with the iLuggage... I did it once to do a video presentation.

There are always limitation to any hardware, get around with it. Even with the people who is complaining about Mac Pro at the moment, we'll have to get around with that when it released as well!
 
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So 2 antennas instead of 4 on the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth module... same as the 2012 models, no 3x3:3.

DSL3510L Cactus Ridge 4C Thunderbolt controller... same as the 2012 models, no Redwood Ridge / DisplayPort 1.2 support.

The SDXC card reader controller looks to have gone from a Genesys Logic GL812 to GL3219, neither of which is listed on their site (probably custom for Apple) but we might infer from other Genesys Logic part numbers that the new version has a USB 3.0 interface instead of just USB 2.0.

The RAM is all in just 4 packages versus 16 for the 2012 model.

There appears to be a new Broadcom microcontroller on board that comes with it's own SDRAM package (512MB) which is curious.
 
I didn't buy the 11" last year becuase of the battery life compared to the 13"....Thinking about choosing the 11" this year
IDK, do you guys think it's too small? :confused:
 
Any guess if the flash module is the same form factor as in the announced Mac Pro update?
 
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