No, they have been getting thiner with each generation! My 2015 MacBook Pro is thicker than the 2016 and the new M1 MacBook Pro's are still thinner again!
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Technology to Embed Face ID into MacBook Displays 'Doesn't Exist,' Says Gurman
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Besides a thicker screen, the FaceID needs to fit above the menu bar not in the middle of it!
There's been a uptick of damaged displays, mmm... could be the display lid is too thin? Yep! Not enough structure or air space if it's hit in the middle so the lid deflects inward damaging the LCD panel.
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I believe the M1 MacBook Pro 16 screen is thicker than the Intel 16 screen due to the miniLED structure, but I’ll have to check.
Why not use FaceID on an iPhone signed into iCloud to authenticate to a Mac OS client also signed into the same iCloud account? This seems like a no brainer to me.
Although if they did this, I doubt anyone would buy one of those stupid touch ID keyboards.
I’m guessing this is the reason why they don’t allow this…it looks like there are third party apps that can do it though.
Although if they did this, I doubt anyone would buy one of those stupid touch ID keyboards.
I’m guessing this is the reason why they don’t allow this…it looks like there are third party apps that can do it though.
Probably because a man-in-the-middle could defeat it? A server in the middle that would tell Mac (A) that iPhone (B) which doesn’t belong to Mac (A) is indeed logged into the same iCloud account so, you know, go ahead and unlock it.
FaceID and TouchID currently work on-device, no communication to an outside network is required. That’s part of what makes them secure. It’s also part of what forces folks who like the security and convenience to buy one of those stupid TouchID keyboards! Actually, now that I think of it, those TouchID keyboards ARE cheaper than an iPhone with FaceID…
Some of us actually much prefer touhID on the Mac to a potential FaceID on the Mac, so it would be fine if they wanted to add FaceID as an additional authentication mechanism, but certainly don't make it a replacement for touchID...Probably because a man-in-the-middle could defeat it? A server in the middle that would tell Mac (A) that iPhone (B) which doesn’t belong to Mac (A) is indeed logged into the same iCloud account so, you know, go ahead and unlock it.
FaceID and TouchID currently work on-device, no communication to an outside network is required. That’s part of what makes them secure. It’s also part of what forces folks who like the security and convenience to buy one of those stupid TouchID keyboards! Actually, now that I think of it, those TouchID keyboards ARE cheaper than an iPhone with FaceID…
You can already authenticate on a Mac wearing an Apple Watch logged into the same iCloud account.Probably because a man-in-the-middle could defeat it? A server in the middle that would tell Mac (A) that iPhone (B) which doesn’t belong to Mac (A) is indeed logged into the same iCloud account so, you know, go ahead and unlock it.
FaceID and TouchID currently work on-device, no communication to an outside network is required. That’s part of what makes them secure. It’s also part of what forces folks who like the security and convenience to buy one of those stupid TouchID keyboards! Actually, now that I think of it, those TouchID keyboards ARE cheaper than an iPhone with FaceID…
Nah I don't think they would need to transmit the facial data, just confirm via network on the iPhone. They already do things like this to be honest with unlocking with your watch and touch ID on the keyboard. Also why are those stupid?Probably because a man-in-the-middle could defeat it? A server in the middle that would tell Mac (A) that iPhone (B) which doesn’t belong to Mac (A) is indeed logged into the same iCloud account so, you know, go ahead and unlock it.
FaceID and TouchID currently work on-device, no communication to an outside network is required. That’s part of what makes them secure. It’s also part of what forces folks who like the security and convenience to buy one of those stupid TouchID keyboards! Actually, now that I think of it, those TouchID keyboards ARE cheaper than an iPhone with FaceID…
It's an encrypted data stream and it requires a login to even use it to begin withProbably because a man-in-the-middle could defeat it? A server in the middle that would tell Mac (A) that iPhone (B) which doesn’t belong to Mac (A) is indeed logged into the same iCloud account so, you know, go ahead and unlock it.
FaceID and TouchID currently work on-device, no communication to an outside network is required. That’s part of what makes them secure. It’s also part of what forces folks who like the security and convenience to buy one of those stupid TouchID keyboards! Actually, now that I think of it, those TouchID keyboards ARE cheaper than an iPhone with FaceID…
They already have Apple Watch authentication over iCloud to be able to unlock Macs and iPhones etc.
It ONLY works for unlock though it doesn't work the same as the TouchID magic keyboard works where you can use it for installing apps and password prompts keychain access etc, at least I don't think it does...I haven't tried it, I usually am not wearing my watch at my desk. If it does, then I should probably start using it and get rid of this insanely bad keyboard. Seriously, worst keyboard ever (comic book guy voice). The TouchID is the only good thing about it.
Also TouchID with the magic keyboard does NOT work "on device" -- well it does, just not the device you're thinking of. There's an old iPhone board & SOC inside the magic keyboard. THIS device authenticates to the mac host over USB. No reason this couldn't be done over HTTPS instead of USB.
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I don’t know if there are some exceptions, but in my experience Apple Watch can do everything that Touch ID on keyboard does: you just need to press twice the side button when you get the prompt.
I definitely need to check that out then. If that's true, I'd gladly wear my watch more when I'm at my desk if it means not having to use this stupid TouchID Magic keyboard anymore.
As an iPad Pro 12.9" user, I can attest to the fact Face ID needs a certain proximity to function. As I type this my 14" MBP is sitting on an articulating arm beside my 27" display, and the screen/camera is at arm's length. My iPad is sitting on the desk on a stand about the same distance, and Face ID doesn't work unless I lean in.
It's simply too far for Face ID to work. I'd have to lean in towards my laptop every time it was needed, vs reaching out with my finger to the Touch ID.
Now, certainly it would function in some use cases, but I'd surmise that the distance between the user and a MBP screen is often further than Face ID's effective distance (25-50cm or 9.8-20" as documented by Apple).
Long story short it's not just about cramming the existing Face ID hardware into the lid of a MBP - they'd need to reliably increase the effective range of Face ID while maintaining security levels.
It's simply too far for Face ID to work. I'd have to lean in towards my laptop every time it was needed, vs reaching out with my finger to the Touch ID.
Now, certainly it would function in some use cases, but I'd surmise that the distance between the user and a MBP screen is often further than Face ID's effective distance (25-50cm or 9.8-20" as documented by Apple).
Long story short it's not just about cramming the existing Face ID hardware into the lid of a MBP - they'd need to reliably increase the effective range of Face ID while maintaining security levels.
This is incorrect information. Windows Hello does use 3d face mapping.