Certified Windows Hello uses 3D depth sensing as well. Which is why so few devices use the proper implementation of it.
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Certified Windows Hello uses 3D depth sensing as well. Which is why so few devices use the proper implementation of it.
Because that’s bargain basement facial recognition that doesn’t even vaguely resemble what Face ID is.
Who says you still have to tap to confirm? That’s a poor choice that adds useless friction to a feature that would/could be brilliantly invisible. Which is how it should be.
Well, ok, I'm not technical enough to talk about it then, but unless I'm mistaken, it's not used for payments, only for unlocks, which means there are important differences.
Because "Hello" uses simpler tech and is less secure. Just because it looks similar doesn't mean it is the same.
So is FaceID. It uses a dot projector and IR camera to build a 3D model, but it's still just a camera.
I don't buy that the technology doesn't exist. The camera part is easy. And building a thin dot projector should be pretty easy too: just an IR source with an interference filter in front of it. Not hard. The rest is software, which they already have.
The dot projector uses high-intensity LEDs to emit a pre-determined pattern on your face which the infrared camera reads. Quite different from a regular front-facing camera. If it’s so easy then this would have been readily available as a part on the market already in the needed thinness. Unless you are in the business of designing these systems for mobile devices yourself, I doubt simply saying that it’s not hard will make it so.
I always find it amusing when folks not working in an area of expertise and with no knowledge of how things work (and no curiosity to even use a search engine to find out how things work) assume “It’s EASY to do this thing that’s never been done before.” An IR source with an interference filter… yeah, THAT is all it is.
I don't have any links I'm afraid, only that it's policy.
Other implementations like Samsung's "retinal" scanner tech are also banned. The only approved one is FaceID.
From what I understand, Windows Hello can be used to complete payments in Chrome.
Windows Hello can now be used to complete payments in Google Chrome
Google has added support for payments via Windows Hello. While Google already supports Web Authentication API, the new feature will allow users to authenticate purchases via Windows Hello.
www.neowin.net
Do you have any links with comparison o details on why Windows Hello is less secure?
I know Samsung smartphones don't have the level of security of FaceID or Windows Hello. And I think that older Windows Phone devices also had a weak implementation. But now MS requirements are higher, so it's more secure than before.
It’s been a while since I’ve handled a new one. My girlfriend’s model is about two years old now. I did find it to be sort of... frail-feeling.It's already much thinner than an iPhone. If you look at the display on any of the recent-ish MacBook Pros in unibody from the side you'll see how thin they are, especially if you discount the Aluminum chassis.
We both had the 13” 2009/2010 unibody model, so that is what I’m still used to. I don’t think they have to be quite that thick, but it sure does feel solid!
Every time I handle my companion’s plastic Toshiba laptop, I am reminded of how flimsy and CREAKY non-Apple laptops are. I had a 13” (?) Sony VAIO years ago and it was partially aluminum, but only for show. That thing was so creaky and loose, and it cost TWICE what my 2009 MacBook Pro cost. Returned it under Best Buy’s “no lemons” policy and got the MacBook Pro and a new Yamaha amplifier with the return money.
I don't have any direct comparisons but it looks like the Hello system is not quite as secure.
Hackers Got Past Windows Hello by Tricking a Webcam
The security researchers used infrared photos and third-party hardware to best Microsoft’s facial-recognition tech.
The Wired article explains that the problem was fixed with a security patch, and also looks like MS increased the security of Windows Hello in the process,I don't have any direct comparisons but it looks like the Hello system is not quite as secure.
Hackers Got Past Windows Hello by Tricking a Webcam
The security researchers used infrared photos and third-party hardware to best Microsoft’s facial-recognition tech.www.wired.com
KB5005478—Windows Hello CVE-2021-34466 - Microsoft Support
Windows Hello Enhanced Sign-in Security
Windows Hello Enhanced Sign-in Security provides your organization an additional level of security using biometrics or PIN.
docs.microsoft.com
Agreed on how solid MacBooks always feel. My first was a 2012 Air and I've lost count of how many wooden edges that I've accidentally gouged a little because of bumping it on the display edge. Coming from a not much older plastic Windows laptop the difference was definitely night and day and shows how much of a difference the unibody construction made.
Technology to Embed Face ID into MacBook Displays
One of these is not like the other.
Why? On Macbooks, there's no real advantage to FaceID for people (aside from those who are disabled and can't easily use TouchID) for reasons we've already covered.
So, how come all these phones can do it but they can’t stick that tech in a Mac?
Apple should make the screen thicker because of the topic of this thread? WHAT?
my response was to this point from the article:
im not sure where the confusion is. it's really not that complicated.