Hey, I can think of a handful of social media CEOs that should be arrested. Lets not pretend they should be off limits
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Telegram CEO Arrested in France Over Content Moderation Issues
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An issue with Telegram is that they avoid responding to law enforcement inquiries concern terrorism, human trafficking, child pornography. It is not that it is happening, it the fact that Telegram protection of it after they have received specific requests for assistance investigating it. This is a unique Telegram policy and the CEO is 100% responsible. The “that information is on a server in another country so we are not obligated to respond” to inquires about child pornography and trafficking is why the their CEO is sitting in a jail cell.
Good riddance to bad trash.
Good riddance to bad trash.
Repetition, deliberate exaggeration and shouting loud can work, or it can simply look silly. Please be assured I am not saying your post above is silly, or even ludicrous, just, well, it could look silly to some. France in 2024 is not in the business of heavy censorship, the French government does not control the press, radio, literature the regime is criticised on a daily basis and while all countries deploy 'propaganda' you are wrong to infer the French government, or EU for that matter, is 'replacing independent journalism' with their everyday communications. So, wrong on all counts, despite the theatrical attempt at shouting out rational argument. But please remember, I am not saying it is silly, I simply said it could look silly to some. I would hate for anyone to go crying to the moderators.
When you have social media involved with pushing hate speech during ethnic cleansing and total misinformation through either intent or negligence, then I feel there needs to be a comeuppance that isn't just a mere fine.
Back to my hard belief stated in this thread re: "Russian Mark Zuckerberg," the real Mark Zuckerberg should definitely be arrested and its a travesty that he has not faced any sort of trial.
What is happening right now in Europe is pure disgrace. They will go after rumble next. We are steady becoming worse than chinas censorship.
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smh.. what else have they convinced you to think?
the authorities thank you for your post. We will soon message you with what to think next.
Well, yes — exactly. What social media platform isn't 'involved' in this way? Honestly.
And promptly, Russian spokeswoman Maria Zakharova signals support on a diplomatic level for poor widdle Pavel. Something's fishy. https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/26/tech/pavel-durov-telegram-profile-intl/index.html
No platform was more guilty of propaganda and working with the government and literally impacting elections than Twitter before Elon bought it. Thank you Elon for exposing the extent of this. That is why there has been such government and mainstream media brainwashing of people to believe that somehow Elon has done something bad by buying Twitter and getting rid of the nonsense. How can freeing a platform be bad? There may be stuff on there now that you disagree with or is incorrect, but that is better than only being spoon fed what the powers want you to hear. We must all find a way to understand this. It's not too late.. I hope.
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ADDENDUM: as soon as I made the above post, now I can make a normal post to this thread, and I can choose whatever reaction I want. Something is a bit wonky about the forum code!
Why am I:
1. not allowed to make a "normal" post to this thread (I had to hit "reply" to the first message); and
2. My only allowed reply is "thumbs-up" - I can't choose any other "reaction".
Thanks for any clarification!
ADDENDUM: as soon as I made the above post, now I can make a normal post to this thread, and I can choose whatever reaction I want. Something is a bit wonky about the forum code!
If other CEO's are aiding and abetting, then yeah, they can be
Arrest of Telegram’s Durov inflames debate over online crime and free speech
The arrest in France of the site’s Russia-born founder highlights ongoing disputes over social media’s responsibility for spreading child sexual abuse material and other criminal content.
www.washingtonpost.com
French authorities said Monday that they had arrested Telegram founder and CEO Pavel Durov for failing to moderate illegal child abuse activity on the messaging app -- the most dramatic action so far in the global fight between officials and tech companies over limits to harmful content.
Durov was being temporarily detained on suspicion of involvement with distributing child sex abuse material and drugs, money laundering and working with organized crime, according to a press statement released by French prosecutor Laure Beccuau.
The good thing is he'll get his day in court to fight the charges and prove his innocence.
No, I am fairly certain no thanks will be coming my way from the mysterious 'authorities' you mention, and honestly, I think you know that too and your just being .....playing. However, if I'm wrong, I'll let you know. Bye bye.
Why does that mean fishy? It may be, but why do you assume this?
Yes I am sure he will be treated very fairly and without any undue discomfort. I am sure even now he is being treated properly. no sarcasm here, of course.If other CEO's are aiding and abetting, then yeah, they can bearrestedtemporarily detained too.
Arrest of Telegram’s Durov inflames debate over online crime and free speech
The arrest in France of the site’s Russia-born founder highlights ongoing disputes over social media’s responsibility for spreading child sexual abuse material and other criminal content.
French authorities said Monday that they had arrested Telegram founder and CEO Pavel Durov for failing to moderate illegal child abuse activity on the messaging app -- the most dramatic action so far in the global fight between officials and tech companies over limits to harmful content.
Durov was being temporarily detained on suspicion of involvement with distributing child sex abuse material and drugs, money laundering and working with organized crime, according to a press statement released by French prosecutor Laure Beccuau.
The good thing is he'll get his day in court to fight the charges and prove his innocence.
MR mods on overdrive. How dare we bring politics into a political discussion.
smh.. what else have they convinced you to think?
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By 'they' do you mean the same mysterious authorities you said may contact me or does 'anthogag' get a different set of instructions from a different 'they'? Just curious. How do you know these 'authorities'? Thanks in anticipation.
I don't think too highly of social media, but as a libertarian, the absolute last thing that ANYONE should want, is government regulation of internet speech (obviously barring the transmission of illegal things that I don't need to expound upon) and the arresting of tech CEO's for actions that are done on their sites. That's a huge misappropriation of blame and a surefire way to curtail any form of dissenting speech.
Far too many governments in the West are much too eager to punish opinions and speech under the nebulous term of "hate speech" and "disinformation".
Far too many governments in the West are much too eager to punish opinions and speech under the nebulous term of "hate speech" and "disinformation".
So blaming everyone but the criminals themselves, I see…make the majority suffer because a few are bad. Gotcha. Durov is not the police. Maybe they should do their job and go get these criminals instead of expecting Durov to censor the 99.9% of people doing nothing wrong. You silence them at one platform they’ll just go to another. Only way to stop them is to do something about them.
Ok.
But what does sufficient moderation mean? Sufficient according to what?
Take for instance GDPR regulation. That kind of thing anyone can understand and comply.
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Where did I say Durov should censor those who are doing nothing wrong?
I specifically said that if the service is being used by criminals to plan and commit crimes and Durov is aware of it and can put a stop to it such as by banning those criminals, then he should.
It's no different to how banks monitor things to stop criminials from using their servcies to launder money, commit fraud and other crimes. If banks are aware of it and can put a stop to it, they're obligated to instead of turning a blind eye as there are laws (e.g. Bank Secrecy Act) requiring them to do so.
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