Come on little Hitlers, reveal yourselves.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this post? How do you even begin to tie Hitler to the topic at hand?
Come on little Hitlers, reveal yourselves.
People somehow fail to ask questions.
Just think: how can something big that has servers all over the world do all the R&D and stuff for free. Are we living in communism or what? Real Mark Zuckerberg had been doing business out of communications for ages, he never gave a cent for free. Because it is well… business! It cannot function without money.
You cannot get a free coffee at your shop, neither Apple does not give iPhones for free. If something is free – you are the product. And when I use Meta products I at least know WHAT exactly is the price (i.e. my data that is sold to advertisers) because it us explicitly written in the EULA. Also I know that Meta abides by the law of the United States of America. By which laws does Telegram work, Emirates? The same country where women are considered “men property”? As well as Russian ties have not been completely cut, I seen a story where it was said that their development office is still in St. Petersburg.
Another problem is while Telegram is marketed as something “safe”, it isn’t. All the messages are first uploaded to servers and then shared among the connected devices, it is all server-based (except for the secret chats)
You mean if you're committing a crime and messaging about it?all I can say to anyone using a messaging service that isn't by default end-to-end encrypted in 2024... good luck out there
You mean the fight for freedom of speech on PRIVATELY OWNED platforms where there is no such thing? You don't like the terms of the site you're using for FREE, go make your own so you can say whatever you want.Scary stuff indeed. Only a few people left fighting for free speech. Durov is a smart guy. I recommend watching Tucker Carlson's interview with him.
Because ever since 2016 and Trump, people don't have manners, morals, ethics or guardrails. They've taken "someone's" behavior and saw it was OK to be a complete jerk online and have normalized it.Moderation is the new word for censoring.
Absolutely not, he has a great responsibility to curate his site that has given him vast wealth. There is too much divisiveness at the moment and accountability is important. Otherwise, see most things on the www as fantasy unless it comes from an actual news site…notfoxofcourse ;01984 predictions 100% accurate
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Discuss?!
All countries have laws regulating the written word. All countries.
You’re free to write anything you like, there are no laws to prevent you. You are not and never should be free of the consequences of your words.
Incite murder, go to prison etc etc
This chap removes consequences of those using the written word.
8 disagree (the tyranny loving crowd) and 40 likes (the freedom loving crowd). There is hope! I am feeling it!This is absurd, it's like arresting the CEO of a car company because bad people used the car to do illegal things such as terrorism, drug trafficking, money laundering, fraud, and child exploitation. I guess this has more to do with the ever increasing attacks on freedom of expression in the west and how Telegram refuses to give governments backdoors to their user data more than anything else.
Right? lol. I have many friends/family that have moved to Signal, Telegram or WhatsApp only just to continue spamming me with memes and social media links. Nothing sensitive is ever shared.You mean if you're committing a crime and messaging about it?
What complete ignorance.... It genuinely is sad to read how much folks want the government to dictate their lives. We have laws about prostitution and drug dealing on the streets, and yet it happens. Weird. So are you going to arrest the police officers or city/state leaders for not preventing this crime? I mean...'they have a responsibility'. Should law enforcement be setting up cameras inside our homes to monitor and make sure nothing illegal is happening? Where would YOU like to draw the line?
I think everyone can agree that terrorism is bad. That doesn't mean folks (at least in the USA) should have to give up their freedoms. It's not only about what you gain, it's also about what you are giving up. I don't think a company's CEO gets to make the call about what I can say.
The first duty of government is to protect their citizens. Governments are guided by law in this task and laws are different in jurisdictions worldwide. Labelling governments 'scared' is, well, I'd like to say 'is dumb' here but advocates of free speech are some of the first to go wingeing to moderators when they get push back after hurling abuse and throwing bricks at governments, so given the sensitivities of brick throwers and the abusive on here, I will settle for - misses the point.Why are governments so scared of free speech?
Nope. I just checked a variety of dictionaries and not even urban dictionaries get confused over the two entirely different words and their meanings. Governments and government lawyers would certainly not be confused. No need to thank me. Just happy to help.Moderation is the new word for censoring.
The arrest occurred shortly after Durov arrived on a private jet from Azerbaijan and is said to be part of a joint investigation by several agencies investigating alleged failures in content moderation on the Telegram platform that may have facilitated criminal activity.
Why are governments so scared of free speech?
If Durov was arrested for failing to moderate open discussions of criminal activity and the discussions and organizing on Telegram lead to another 9/11, would you still feel the same way?Moderation is the new word for censoring.
Numerous online businesses and websites adapt their product and services to comply with regional and country specific laws. Apple complies with regional law requirements in order to continue doing business. Technically a country like China will simply block the service but in other countries were blocking is deemed unlawful or inappropriate then sanctions, international arrest warrants and heavy fines will often bring the miscreant law breaker to heal if and when they are found guilty after due process. Some western countries still have robust systems of law while others are less so and are in danger of being made to look impotent. Clearly France and the EU are not in this league.Why should a website from Dubai abide by EU rules? Just because it is accessible from the EU? Then it would have to abide by the laws of ALL countries. Turkey, China, Saudi Arabia and so on. How could that work technically?
Interesting point. Remind me, who in the us government and special forces got arrested for allowing (unintentionally, but still) 9/11 to happen? Oh, that's right — no one!If Durov was arrested for failing to moderate open discussions of criminal activity and the discussions and organizing on Telegram lead to another 9/11, would you still feel the same way?
You don't believe there's a moral obligation to do something? Are the lives of thousands of people less important than the free speech of criminals?