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After reading through this entire thread I still don't understand why I would use this or any other messaging app other than the built-in iMessage app? What am I missing.

Why would I want to keep chasing messaging apps, and trying to get all of my contacts to do the same? Seems like something you do when, how you get the message out, is more important than the message itself. ?
 
After reading through this entire thread I still don't understand why I would use this or any other messaging app other than the built-in iMessage app? What am I missing.

Why would I want to keep chasing messaging apps, and trying to get all of my contacts to do the same? Seems like something you do when, how you get the message out, is more important than the message itself. ?
Because iMessage isn't on Android. Outside US, it's usually hard to find someone using iMessage (sometimes even if they use iPhone, people prefer to use Whatsapp because that's where all your friends are at). Privacy conscious people tend to use Signal/Telegram.
 
Signal > Telegram.

Now, if only Signal had better stickers...
So Signal is better than Telegram, then you explain how Signal is inferior in some aspects.

I don't quite get the point of Signal. You have the option to use E2EE in Telegram, if you want. I don't. I want seamless sync of all my messages on all my platforms and devices. With Signal, you don't even have that option. And a ton of other features. Signal is way too basic (like you mentioned). If I want to commit fraud, or do some money laundering, or sell drugs, I can still just click on that "Start secret conversation" button.

Yes, you can argue that "but Signal is open source not only on the client side, but on the server side as well". Cool, except there's absolutely zero guarantee that that's the actual source code they deploy on their servers. Also the fact that open source doesn't IMPLY security. 99.9999% of the users are incapable of doing any kind of code review anyway, let alone a security-focused one.

See the various OpenSSL vulnerabilities, that sometimes were present in the (open source) code for DECADES without anyone from the open source community noticing. So that's about it.

In any case, this is an incredibly useful update, I could finally migrate the last remaining animated stickers from other platforms. Because I can submit any sticker pack on my own in Telegram. Then share it with any of my contacts. The previous TGS format is so much obscured and restricted that it really only works if you design your stickers for that format from the ground up. I understand that in exchange TGS can be really really efficient (it really is, the sticker sets are crazy small and smooth), but I really missed some old animated stickers from Messenger. All my friends moved to Telegram already, so it was declared a loss... until now.

But now with this added support for the webm format it took just an afternoon of scripting for speeding up the mass conversions and stuff, and all the stickers I missed are up and running for me and my friends. It was totally worth it.

And oh yes, I also LOVE that now even reactions are highlighted, I can easily click on the highlight and it scrolls me to where the reaction happened, and it also animates the reaction to the recipient, not just the sender.

At this point, I'd say Telegram is complete. Incredible work. It works perfectly on Windows, macOS, Linux, Android and iOS. Now they can get back to reducing battery drain, because that can be high sometimes - although that might come down to the fact that it's the single most used app on my phone BY FAR lol.
 
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I'd to love iMessage to drop its rigid reactions and do like Signal and Messenger: have a + option which allows us to choose whatever emoji we like. Much more customizable!

iMessage was ahead of its rivals when it released the reactions functionality, but now it just seems outdated.
 
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Lot's of opportunities for "hookups" available on Telegram too. The stickers and the blatant groups and posts for "hookups" -- Telegram was not the SECURE messaging app for me.
 
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After reading through this entire thread I still don't understand why I would use this or any other messaging app other than the built-in iMessage app? What am I missing.

Why would I want to keep chasing messaging apps, and trying to get all of my contacts to do the same? Seems like something you do when, how you get the message out, is more important than the message itself. ?
Nobody uses iMessage with colleagues, friends and families here. The most popular IM softwares in Taiwan are LINE (it sucks), FB Messenger (untrustworthy), and then Telegram.
 
After reading through this entire thread I still don't understand why I would use this or any other messaging app other than the built-in iMessage app? What am I missing.

Why would I want to keep chasing messaging apps, and trying to get all of my contacts to do the same? Seems like something you do when, how you get the message out, is more important than the message itself. ?
iMessage isn't that common in a lot of countries. I'm from the UK and talk to exactly 1 person on iMessage, everybody else is on WhatsApp/Telegram/and unfortunately Facebook Messenger.
 
After reading through this entire thread I still don't understand why I would use this or any other messaging app other than the built-in iMessage app? What am I missing.

Why would I want to keep chasing messaging apps, and trying to get all of my contacts to do the same? Seems like something you do when, how you get the message out, is more important than the message itself. ?

Maybe because only my iPhone buds get E2E on Imessages, everyone else gets SMS/MMS.
Telegram is available on both iOS and Android.
 
Love telegram, use it daily. Don't understand why in-line "tap back" reactions only work in individual messages and not in group messages, though. Minor annoyance.
Reactions work on groups and channels to. But the admins needs to enable it.
 
One feature of Telegram that I use often and I wish iMessage had, is the ability to schedule messages. I use this when messaging someone in a different time zone, if I want to make sure they get the message when they're awake. There's also have the option to deliver the message when they're next online as well as to deliver silently, which is great if you don't know if the person has their phone set to silent or not and you don't want to disturb them. These should really be part of iMessage.
 
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