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Appleuser201

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Recently I’ve been having this problem with some websites. Especially google sites like gmail and docs, is there a way to change the user agent to a newer browser like Firefox 56 in tenfourfox to trick the website into thinking I’m using a newer version of “Firefox”?

And there’s my new grape iMac G3 400mhz, 256mb of Ram.
 

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specially google sites like gmail and docs, is there a way to change the user agent to a newer browser like Firefox 56 in tenfourfox

The danger in pretending to be a newer browser is it can call up extra features that will slow your computer down even more. Even on the Google homepage, I can slash CPU use by half in TFF by setting the UA as IE8.
 
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Appleuser201

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Yes - Preferences->TenFourFox->User Agent

I generally use Firefox 60ESR (Intel)

Cheers :)

Hugh
Wow I feel so stupid.
This iMac is very slow but part of that is due to the 256mb of Ram I haven’t upgraded yet.
Tenfourfox is now a great browser again.
And can someone help me with my hangouts iChat question?
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The danger in pretending to be a newer browser is it can call up extra features that will slow your computer down even more. Even on the Google homepage, I can slash CPU use by half in TFF by setting the UA as IE8.
Might as well use Camino though, if you switch to an older UA. Camino flys on the iMac G3.
 

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Hi Appleuser201,

Have you tried ArcticFoxPPC. I think it's lighter on resources and it has the hability to
set a specific useragent for different sites/domains, by going into about:config and adding a
new String preference like:

general.useragent.override.google.com

With the value for the useragent you want to use like chrome 41:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/41.0.2226.0 Safari/537.36

I've seen that several sites behave better/faster with more or less the same functionality.

In google sites like gmail using chrome 45 is the minimum for the regular version but loading
times are still slow because of javascript code but after loading it's "usable" on a PB G4.

Also using umatrix and ublock origin make a big difference.

Best regards,
voidRunner
 
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Appleuser201

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Hi Appleuser201,

Have you tried ArcticFoxPPC. I think it's lighter on resources and it has the hability to
set a specific useragent for different sites/domains, by going into about:config and adding a
new String preference like:

general.useragent.override.google.com

With the value for the useragent you want to use like chrome 41:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/41.0.2226.0 Safari/537.36

I've seen that several sites behave better/faster with more or less the same functionality.

In google sites like gmail using chrome 45 is the minimum for the regular version but loading
times are still slow because of javascript code but after loading it's "usable" on a PB G4.

Also using umatrix and ublock origin make a big difference.

Best regards,
voidRunner
I love arctic fox but I can't find where to download it anymore and for some reason Macintosh garden isn't loading. Can someone send me the download link?
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For google I set my account to use the older HTML style. It works great even on G3s. And it's a cleaner interface even on modern systems.
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Also, kinda hard to tell from the pictures but I'm pretty sure that's an indigo iMac.
No it's a grape 400mhz 1999 model with dvd drive.
 
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I love arctic fox but I can't find where to download it anymore and for some reason Macintosh garden isn't loading. Can someone send me the download link?

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Might as well use Camino though, if you switch to an older UA. Camino flys on the iMac G3.

It's not the same thing, Camino will fail because of security protocols. AF/IW/TFF with a 'vintage' UA still have the benefit of relatively contemporary security.
 
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Appleuser201

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For hangouts you have a mini app here on the forum, just search for it. The same for Facebook messenger
Leopard only... It doesn't matter because I got hangouts working to at least a useable state with ice weasel. It's great what a 400nhz iMac can do with the right software.
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They're all from @wicknix in the link I posted above.

Also should let you know, the classilla UA is working once again for 3gp YouTube playback.
 
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Appleuser201

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No, it doesn't.
Is there a reason the classilla UA isn't loading the Nokia mobile YouTube? I imagine searching for videos would be a lot faster if it did. And from what I remember, in os9 and Panther classilla did in fact always load the mobile Nokia YouTube.
 
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Has this been confirmed?

If this is the case, all we would theoretically need to do is copy the feature phone's UA over to TFF.

No, it's guesswork based on previous experiences - Youtube isn't always fooled by the user agent alone. Proof of pudding is if someone can try it - unfortunately the feature phones and Symbian phones I have no longer reach Youtube as of a few months ago and incidentally, they used to show the same UI that the Nokia N90 user agent used to before the change.
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Youtube isn't always fooled by the user agent alone.

Example: It's not fooled by giving youtube-dl a Nokia user agent - it still doesn't reveal the 3gp files.
 
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My Nokia E6 running Symbian Belle can access YouTube and play videos using the stock browser. Searching doesn't work but I can use tonvid.com for that and pass the result to YouTube.

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I have the exact phone, but Youtube just gives a black screen in the default browser and Opera....

Interesting - are you trying m.youtube.com? My E6 was WiFi-tethered to my Android phone's LTE connection for my tests, so might it be an ISP-related thing?

I also tested m.youtube.com using the 2017 Nokia 3310's (S30+) UA on FF 70 and indeed it presents the same UI as with the FF on Android UA.
 
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