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[iFunk]

My total maintenance costs over the last 2.5 years. Two bottles of windshield washer fluid.


I had the right window motor auto roll the window down about an inch about 1 year after purchasing the vehicle. Made a maintenance request through the app. A tech came out the next day to my work and replaced the motor for zero cost.

If there was a cost to a major component replacement, the car was out of warranty and the owner failed to reply to the "Extended Car Warranty" emails, voicemails, phone calls, certified mailed letters, etc.


Flat tires are fixed by insurance and AAA. I do not know if Tesla will fix a flat tire. If I get one I will let you know.

I own a truck that has had relativity love maintenance costs and I'm at nearly 250,000 miles.

Of course something like that, within warranty, will be covered. My wife's new car has a warranty and if anything happens within that period, it will be covered. Maintenance, which is not what you described, is or is not free on a Tesla? According to the person in the Tampa International Mall "everything is covered." lol.

I have AAA and I'm fairly certain they do not give you a free tire? Not sure what I am missing here. The only reason we have it is because my wife wanted it in case I am out of town. It amazes me people will not or do not know how to change their own tire. Or is it that a Tesla doesn't come with a spare? I've been told this but have not confirmed it. That is wild to me.... a car that does not come with a spare tire. Again, I'm of the mindset that it is not hard to jack up a car and change a tire.

Oh well... often people don't want to hear opposite views of their own. Best of luck to you!

 

[diamond.g]

I own a truck that has had relativity love maintenance costs and I'm at nearly 250,000 miles.

Of course something like that, within warranty, will be covered. My wife's new car has a warranty and if anything happens within that period, it will be covered. Maintenance, which is not what you described, is or is not free on a Tesla? According to the person in the Tampa International Mall "everything is covered." lol.

I have AAA and I'm fairly certain they do not give you a free tire? Not sure what I am missing here. The only reason we have it is because my wife wanted it in case I am out of town. It amazes me people will not or do not know how to change their own tire. Or is it that a Tesla doesn't come with a spare? I've been told this but have not confirmed it. That is wild to me.... a car that does not come with a spare tire. Again, I'm of the mindset that it is not hard to jack up a car and change a tire.

Oh well... often people don't want to hear opposite views of their own. Best of luck to you!

No Tesla doesn't include a spare, they have the tire goop as an option. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more EV's that don't have a spare than those that do.

I think the most common/valid complain about the tires is they wear faster, which is a thing with heavy torquey vehicles.

 

[I7guy]

Ahh I can tell from your various responses you are not open minded at all to other views. The example I gave above was not an edge case. He was told by the dealership in Tampa that it is a common issue with the car. One reason I don't post much in here, or any forum, is people are often one sided. I rarely encounter someone that buys something and will go against the grain and say "you know what... it def was not a good purchase." I know a couple of people that own Tesla vehicles and they are the same. They complain about things like tires seemingly being punctured more (in my their mind) in their Tesla and not liking other aspects of it.. but refuse to admit they made a bad choice with the purchase. One of those people was on the fence about spending upwards of $10,000 on the auto driving feature (or whatever the exact cost was). He finally did and then decided to trade it in.... only to realize he wasted a lot of money on something he didn't even feel safe using. I do all the maintenance on my own cars so the maintenance on a gas vehicle is reality low if you really look at it. My truck has nearly 250,000 miles on it. Oh well. Best of luck to you.

Ah. Thank you for your response. It appears you are not open minded to other views. Of course that is a response to expected when calling out others for the same.

The example you gave was certainly an edge case, as if it were widespread then it would be all over the internet and statistics would be able to show it’s a common failure point.

But you should go with your anecdotal experiences as nobody is changing anybody’s mind. And opposite to your experience, I find people admitting to bad purchasing decisions. Purchasing an EV or Tesla or even any ICE vehicle requires research and internet search is quite the thing in 2024.

You of course can maintain your 250K mile vehicle a believe the FUD on the internet, while it costs me $1.50/day in electricity, virtually no maintenance etc.

It’s true Teslas don’t have a spare, but neither did my last ice luxury vehicle. As far as the Tampa mall anecdotal story mall goes, that is way too specific to be a general case and you taking a general case and making it a general talking point.

People don’t want to hear opposing views as you noted. Best of luck to you.

 

[macjaffa]

Does it always choose the right driver profile if you have two drivers with their cell phones in the car? How does it work? UWB detects which phone entered through driver door?

with a 2021 facelift model 3 this is an issue for me. It seems random which driver it chooses. And it often seems like its the wrong one. In addition they removed he driver name from the screen you hav to tap the screen to check the profile.

They also fail to adjust the rearview mirror which means you have to fiddle with this each time you swap who is driving. That should be motorised.

IMO they should make the profile non-automatically selected and just let the driver choose. This would be way less frustrating that it adjusting to the wrong profile and then having to adjust it back.

 

[macjaffa]

Tesla's software and interface is soooo much better than carplay. It's not even close. It's the one vehicle where carplay is not needed.

> Tesla's software and interface.

You're joking right ? The tesla software interface is one of the WORST designed peices of software I've ever used. You can write pages about how bad the UI is. It's objectively bad. (and dangerous). A big one to start - what is the actual point of the right 3rd of the screen (left in US i guess) that shows the 3d of the car. This is a pointless waste of space.

 

[macjaffa]

That's so you can let someone else drive the car remotely. In normal usage, you never "start" the car

Yes you do. You press brake and it 'starts'

 

[macjaffa]

Asking because I genuinely want to know... is it worth buying a car with a "build quality (as) a significant downgrade" just for the "software and platform"? I am not a new car type of person but my wife recently purchased a Hyundai Santa Fe and it is amazing. Great build quality (IMO) and the software/platform is tremendous. Wireless CarPlay is amazing, Apple Car Key or whatever is called works great etc. I'm always curious on what draws people to certain new cars. My wife test drove a Tesla and didn't like it. There were other factors that led us to not making the purchase via our research.

In the central FL area there is a place that does bodywork and repairs on Teslas. It has amazed me that so many are "totaled" by insurance companies because the repairs are too costly or not worth it to them. I guess this is often the car with some new cars but that was one factor that led us to not making the purchase.

the hyundai will feel better quality and more 'put together' than the tesla. Also I bet it has actual switches. Hyundai lane assist and adaptive cruise are streets ahead of tesla as well.

 

[I7guy]

the hyundai will feel better quality and more 'put together' than the tesla.

Depends.

Also I bet it has actual switches.

Not a positive, imo.

Hyundai lane assist and adaptive cruise are streets ahead of tesla as well.

But far more limited.

 

[diamond.g]

with a 2021 facelift model 3 this is an issue for me. It seems random which driver it chooses. And it often seems like its the wrong one. In addition they removed he driver name from the screen you hav to tap the screen to check the profile.

They also fail to adjust the rearview mirror which means you have to fiddle with this each time you swap who is driving. That should be motorised.

IMO they should make the profile non-automatically selected and just let the driver choose. This would be way less frustrating that it adjusting to the wrong profile and then having to adjust it back.

You can sorta do that, just enable easy entry and remove driver profiles associated with phone/fob/card. Before pressing the brake select the driver for it to switch profiles.

There is also an option to choose a primary key coupled with UWB, but I am not sure how well it works on choosing who the driver is.

EDIT: you may want to experiment with local profile vs online synced profile, see if there is a setting that isn't getting synced with the online profile.

 

[macjaffa]

You can sorta do that, just enable easy entry and remove driver profiles associated with phone/fob/card. Before pressing the brake select the driver for it to switch profiles.

There is also an option to choose a primary key coupled with UWB, but I am not sure how well it works on choosing who the driver is.

EDIT: you may want to experiment with local profile vs online synced profile, see if there is a setting that isn't getting synced with the online profile.

Easy entry is terrible. I don't want the seat to move unless I choose so.

 

[diamond.g]

Easy entry is terrible. I don't want the seat to move unless I choose so.

If you are the primary driver you can have it prefer your phone/profile when multiple phone keys (or fobs) approach the vehicle. Past that they are going to have to get smarter on who is in the drivers seat if they feel like that bit of user input is error. UWB should help, but that isn't on every model.

 

[960design]

Maintenance, which is not what you described, is or is not free on a Tesla?

I purchased the two bottles of Windshield wiper fluid. Tesla did not supply those, although the service center would probably top it off for you for free.

The only maintenance needed on a Tesla are tire rotations (every 6000ish miles) and cabin air filters (every two years). The brakes have something like a 250,000 mile life span, mostly because the regenerative breaking is more than adequate to stop the vehicle to a very smooth stop. I have only used the brakes a couple of times in the last 2 years.

I have AAA and I'm fairly certain they do not give you a free tire? Not sure what I am missing here.

Correct, they provide towing service to get the tire fixed.

The only reason we have it is because my wife wanted it in case I am out of town. It amazes me people will not or do not know how to change their own tire. Or is it that a Tesla doesn't come with a spare?

No spare tire, my Tesla has run flats. Extra stiff side walls, even if a large hole is put in the tire, you can drive to a location to get it repaired. So far I have been lucky and no large holes yet.

That is wild to me.... a car that does not come with a spare tire. Again, I'm of the mindset that it is not hard to jack up a car and change a tire.

I'm too bougie to change tires these days, although I've put on a few tires in my time. My '91 T-Bird Sport 5.0 HO would eat up tires. I prefer to let someone else handle it now.

 

[960design]

Ahh I can tell from your various responses you are not open minded at all to other views. The example I gave above was not an edge case. He was told by the dealership in Tampa that it is a common issue with the car. One reason I don't post much in here, or any forum, is people are often one sided. I rarely encounter someone that buys something and will go against the grain and say "you know what... it def was not a good purchase." I know a couple of people that own Tesla vehicles and they are the same. They complain about things like tires seemingly being punctured more (in my their mind) in their Tesla and not liking other aspects of it.. but refuse to admit they made a bad choice with the purchase. One of those people was on the fence about spending upwards of $10,000 on the auto driving feature (or whatever the exact cost was). He finally did and then decided to trade it in.... only to realize he wasted a lot of money on something he didn't even feel safe using. I do all the maintenance on my own cars so the maintenance on a gas vehicle is reality low if you really look at it. My truck has nearly 250,000 miles on it. Oh well. Best of luck to you.

Have you ever noticed how many hearsay naysayers exist?
Your friend spent $10,000 on something without trying it out for free or purchasing it for a couple of months for a couple of hundred dollars. Did he short GameStop as well? I love those people, they make my life seem so easy and care free. I'll happily buy them a beer if they are ever in Destin.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

That's so you can let someone else drive the car remotely. In normal usage, you never "start" the car

You're correct, but my point remains true. There is a start button and that was language intentionally chosen by Tesla to make it understandable to users.

 

[I7guy]

Asking because I genuinely want to know... is it worth buying a car with a "build quality (as) a significant downgrade" just for the "software and platform"?

100% worth it. The build quality is excellent for the newer models.

I am not a new car type of person but my wife recently purchased a Hyundai Santa Fe and it is amazing. Great build quality (IMO) and the software/platform is tremendous. Wireless CarPlay is amazing, Apple Car Key or whatever is called works great etc.

Hyundai has suffered and to this day still does from poor brand image.

I'm always curious on what draws people to certain new cars. My wife test drove a Tesla and didn't like it. There were other factors that led us to not making the purchase via our research.

Love my Tesla. I would never buy a Hyundai though. I love the concept of a SDV.

In the central FL area there is a place that does bodywork and repairs on Teslas. It has amazed me that so many are "totaled" by insurance companies

Lots of ICE cars are also totaled.

because the repairs are too costly or not worth it to them.

Same with ICE.

I guess this is often the car with some new cars but that was one factor that led us to not making the purchase.

Lots of factors dissuaded me from an Ioniq 5 or 6. YMMV.

 

[I7guy]

You're correct, but my point remains true. There is a start button and that was language intentionally chosen by Tesla to make it understandable to users.

The car does not have a “start” button. So the person driving then car has no knowledge of what transpired.

 

[I7guy]

> Tesla's software and interface.

You're joking right ?

No. The interface is extremely well designed.

The tesla software interface is one of the WORST designed peices of software I've ever used.

I disagree. Opinions and all that.

You can write pages about how bad the UI is.

And pages have been written about how good it is.

It's objectively bad. (and dangerous).

It’s subjectively or anecdotally bad.

A big one to start - what is the actual point of the right 3rd of the screen (left in US i guess) that shows the 3d of the car. This is a pointless waste of space.

The visualization? You can get a 360 at a glance.

 

[BeatCrazy]

Or is it that a Tesla doesn't come with a spare? I've been told this but have not confirmed it. That is wild to me.... a car that does not come with a spare tire.

Doesn’t sound like you’ve bought too many modern cars. It’s very rare for any new car or moderately sized SUV to come with a spare tire

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

No. The interface is extremely well designed.

I disagree. Opinions and all that.

And pages have been written about how good it is.

It’s subjectively or anecdotally bad.

The visualization? You can get a 360 at a glance.

Ask Don Norman what he thinks of the UX/UI in a Tesla. As someone that works in the UX space, I'm going to say that while it's a nice car to drive, there is a lot to be desired in terms of improving how you interact with the car's systems.

 

[diamond.g]

The visualization? You can get a 360 at a glance.

Nah, it was added because it was seen as an easy way to "prove" that the car is seeing stuff when using AP/EAP/FSD. The flip side is that people tend to believe that is ALL the car see's which isn't true they just don't visualize it like they do in the debug view (AP camera overlay that verygreen has shown).

 

[I7guy]

Ask Don Norman what he thinks of the UX/UI in a Tesla. As someone that works in the UX space, I'm going to say that while it's a nice car to drive, there is a lot to be desired in terms of improving how you interact with the car's systems.

I don’t care what others think of it, it’s not relevant to me. I know how the UI works and how to use it, when to use it and when not to use it.

Edit: this is an appeal to authority claim.

 

[I7guy]

Nah, it was added because it was seen as an easy way to "prove" that the car is seeing stuff when using AP/EAP/FSD. The flip side is that people tend to believe that is ALL the car see's which isn't true they just don't visualize it like they do in the debug view (AP camera overlay that verygreen has shown).

I love it, no matter what the backstory. It’s easy to get a 360 at a glance.

 

[macjaffa]

Ask Don Norman what he thinks of the UX/UI in a Tesla. As someone that works in the UX space, I'm going to say that while it's a nice car to drive, there is a lot to be desired in terms of improving how you interact with the car's systems.

Why does the tesla have a ginourmous screen but can't fit in the name of the track or radio station i'm listening to, or even worse, the destination of the sat nav?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/15m658q/navigation_destination_choices_truncated

Why can't a passenger enter in sat details at the same time as I adjust the heating ?

Why does the seat heater have 1 red, 2 red, 3 red, and then 3 black? Which is so tiny it's hard to see if it's 3 black or 3 red? Why not have either absense of red, or black to indicate not on but both?

Why on earth do I have to swipe little bars that are 3mm wide to dismiss sat nav step directions while driving at 70mph with no where to rest my hand while doing so ? (which also obscure the map) . Hey Elon , get rid of the stupid 3d car and put useful stuff there like sat nav info, heating controls that don't obscure the map. audio stuff that actually shows the track name properly

 

[diamond.g]

Why does the tesla have a ginourmous screen but can't fit in the name of the track or radio station i'm listening to, or even worse, the destination of the sat nav?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/15m658q/navigation_destination_choices_truncated

Why can't a passenger enter in sat details at the same time as I adjust the heating ?

Why does the seat heater have 1 red, 2 red, 3 red, and then 3 black? Which is so tiny it's hard to see if it's 3 black or 3 red? Why not have either absense of red, or black to indicate not on but both?

Why on earth do I have to swipe little bars that are 3mm wide to dismiss sat nav step directions while driving at 70mph with no where to rest my hand while doing so ? (which also obscure the map) . Hey Elon , get rid of the stupid 3d car and put useful stuff there like sat nav info, heating controls that don't obscure the map. audio stuff that actually shows the track name properly

You would have liked the old (2017/18) UI

 

[I7guy]

Why does the tesla have a ginourmous screen but can't fit in the name of the track or radio station i'm listening to, or even worse, the destination of the sat nav?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/15m658q/navigation_destination_choices_truncated

Why can't a passenger enter in sat details at the same time as I adjust the heating ?

Why does the seat heater have 1 red, 2 red, 3 red, and then 3 black? Which is so tiny it's hard to see if it's 3 black or 3 red? Why not have either absense of red, or black to indicate not on but both?

Why on earth do I have to swipe little bars that are 3mm wide to dismiss sat nav step directions while driving at 70mph with no where to rest my hand while doing so ? (which also obscure the map) . Hey Elon , get rid of the stupid 3d car and put useful stuff there like sat nav info, heating controls that don't obscure the map. audio stuff that actually shows the track name properly

None of the above makes the UI bad. It just makes the UI not perfect, which is the state we are all in.