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Tesla Working to Add Apple CarPlay Support to Vehicles

Dirk Pieters said:
There was an article recently about cardboard children and people being pulled in front of Teslas and the Tesla smashed right into them.
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you mean dan o dowd's test. that test was extremely flawed and maybe you shouldn't be reading articles that are second hand information.

they pulled the cardboard children in a way that no human could ever react in time just to frame it as if FSD failed.
 
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Dirk Pieters said:
I’m sure it works flawlessly in the odd situation but there’s a lot of articles out there where things go very, very wrong.

Let’s put it this way: there are over a billion cars in the world. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that these cars all have the necessary hardware and cameras for FSD and we install FSD on every car.

Chaos? Or absolute, gauranteed safety because of FSD?
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there is no situation where any robotaxi (Tesla/waymo/otherwise) will guarantee 100% safety. statistically will never happen, even fast forward 1000 years

asking to wait for perfect safety is costing millions of lives due to bad human driving.
 
germanbeer007 said:
choosing your own definition of full-self driving doesn't make sense.
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Well, being able to sleep in the back seat while the car drives itself makes a lot of sense to me when using FSD. If not, what is the FS part for?

And putting accountability of the software with the software’s designer makes a lot of sense too. Or will you pay out of your own pocket for damages because of software bugs? Rather you than me.

It has been proven that people are bad at maintaining focus when all they have to do is keep an eye on an automated process. Keeping an eye on an automated process is what FSD is today. That’s why they call it supervised FSD. The supervised part negates the full self bit.

So it makes no sense whatsoever.

Putting beta software for self-driving in a 2.5 ton car and allowing it on the road is madness. Who approved that?
 
germanbeer007 said:
you mean dan o dowd's test. that test was extremely flawed and maybe you shouldn't be reading articles that are second hand information.

they pulled the cardboard children in a way that no human could ever react in time just to frame it as if FSD failed.
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There are hundreds if not thousands of articles about FSD issues. Plenty of investigations going on as well. You may not like it but it’s a reality you’ll have to deal with.
 
Dirk Pieters said:
Well, being able to sleep in the back seat while the car drives itself makes a lot of sense to me when using FSD. If not, what is the FS part for?
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it fully self drives.

there is no world, not even in 100 years, where a fully self driving car will never crash. therefore supervision is there until Tesla decides it's good enough to sleep in. but it fully self drives.
 
Dirk Pieters said:
There are hundreds if not thousands of articles about FSD issues. You may not like them but it’s a reality you’ll have to deal with.
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There are thousands of articles/posts where Waymo is crashing/making mistakes. Yet it has no driver in it. Not sure what your point is about these articles existing.
 
For what it is worth, I am by no means a Tesla super fan, and I'll almost certainly never buy another one (which is a shame because I do love the car).

In my personal experience, the FSD is significantly better than the detractors online would have you believe; however, it's nowhere near flawless or ready to drive without supervision. You still absolutely need to pay attention, BUT you usually don't have to do anything. And in a lot of cases when I intervene it's because of a preference (e.g., "I want it to pass a car and for whatever reason it isn't", or "I know this intersection gets backed up early so I want to go ahead and get in the left lane now vs. potentially missing the turn"), not safety, but I have definitely had to intervene because of safety. But those videos of it mowing down children or running into train tracks or whatever are absolutely not representative of using it at all.

Full disclosure: I'm on an older version (HW3) that isn't as advanced as some of the newer cars.
 
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germanbeer007 said:
There are thousands of articles/posts where Waymo is crashing/making mistakes. Yet it has no driver in it. Not sure what your point is about these articles existing.
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The point is that there are a serious amount of documented problems and that “IT WORKS FOR ME” is mostly anecdotal.
 
wonderings said:
I have a native Apple Music app, so that syncs. Audible syncs. Maps, well I don't want to use Apple Maps as the Google Maps in the Tesla is much better, but I can sync my calendar with where I need to be and it a auto gives me directions. I can send directions to my car from any mapping app on my iPhone so super easy as well. Contacts are synced from your phone so they are there as well. This is also not rocket science were you to go into a Car with CarPlay and then a Tesla. No relearning how to drive or anything, just buttons are in different places. I much prefer the Tesla then when I had a CarPlay car with all that ecosystem connectivity, it really is not all that important to my enjoyment in the car, in fact it is better without it. Your mileage may vary of course.
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You just proved my point. If my brother drove a Tesla and I had to drive his car back sitting in a busy airport departure lane with cops telling me to hurry up and move then I would’ve had to pull over somewhere to do all of that configuration and unnecessary syncing.

Instead, I just plugged in my phone, approved CarPlay with his car and I was on my way in about 10 seconds.
 
germanbeer007 said:
it fully self drives.

there is no world, not even in 100 years, where a fully self driving car will never crash. therefore supervision is there until Tesla decides it's good enough to sleep in. but it fully self drives.
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I know it drives itself. Mine does too.

I’ll admit … when it has a good day it does help to make a drive more relaxing. Until it slams on the brakes even though we’re driving on an empty motorway with nothing in front of us.

You can’t eat your cake and have it. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
Dirk Pieters said:
The point is that there are a serious amount of documented problems and that “IT WORKS FOR ME” is mostly anecdotal.
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Same goes for Waymo, yet Waymo is legally allowed to continue operating without a driver.

It's practically up to the company to decide when it's safe enough to allow no driver in many areas, with some areas having exceptions of requiring certain permits.

It doesn't mean it cannot do fully self driving. It absolutely can.
 
Dirk Pieters said:
I know it drives itself. Mine does too.

I’ll admit … when it has a good day it does help to make a drive more relaxing. Until it slams on the brakes even though we’re driving on an empty motorway with nothing in front of us.

You can’t eat your cake and have it. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Ok? So it fully self drives. Not sure what you're trying to argue about.
 
They should offer CayPlay Ultra. It’s a no-brainier because you’d still need to buy their vehicle, parts, service, and most people would also recharge on the road at their Superchargers stations.

What EV makers need to work on for real though is a satisfactory first-party battery service. An elegant and simple service to purchase new or refurbished (you’d have a menu of choices) battery modules, where you could quickly book an appointment and they replace your bad module—Model 3 and S have four and five modules. The peace-of-mind of being able to get this sorted quickly on a bigger budget (new module) or smaller budget (refurb) would be awesome.

Software: “Notification: one of your four battery modules is losing power, would you like to see what upcoming appointments are available at your local Tesla dealership?”

An easy way to fix your battery accessible to everyone with no BS. Relying on random third-party companies is messy.
 
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achappy said:
Well, no one in my family is purchasing a car or has one without CarPlay and I won’t rent one without it. Rivian, GM and previously Tesla was on my no buy list.
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Well no one in my family is purchasing a car that doesn't have Tesla's infotainment and Tesla's features. It auto syncs so that even if you rent a Tesla, your profile and all settings are easily transferred during the loan period and auto deleted when returning the car.

That is far more important than CarPlay syncing.
 
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achappy said:
Well, no one in my family is purchasing a car or has one without CarPlay and I won’t rent one without it. Rivian, GM and previously Tesla was on my no buy list.
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I like Carplay and we have it on our Mazda. I just don’t see what benefit it would add given how well Tesla’s navigation is integrated with the charger network.

I mean, we like Waze on Carplay but not having the detailed charger info would be a setback.

Navigation and charging is a much bigger priority for us than music, messages and whatever else comes with Carplay.
 
Sean Patrick said:
As a Tesla owner I can't tell you how awesome this would be, but I can't see how it's actually possible. Tesla has one of the best car interfaces available, but no way I can see them capitulating in this way
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Yeah my theory is Gurman is reading his info incorrectly. I believe what’s actually being added is AirPlay support, not CarPlay, so people can play rich content (videos) on the Tesla screen when charging or parked.

Even if CarPlay was added I also struggle to figure out a situation where I would want to use it. I agree, Tesla’s in car system is already fantastic for the key functions people care about (useful and responsive maps is the biggest one for me)
 
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