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This really isn't a useful or even especially insightful response to his complaint. He *does* want an iPhone, he just wants an iPhone with an additional feature. Your answer, if extended out to its logical conclusion, would have us all still using the original iPhone, or at least one with no more features than that model had.
 
But Apple delivers a solution with 50% to 70% of the face covered. I don't like itand I don't believe that this is the best solution. Apple just refuses to integrate TouchID the same way Apple refuses to move to USB-C.

Apple starts to feel a bit long in the tooth. 5 years to abandon and to replace butterfly - years and years to introduce a photo sensor with more megapixels (about to come this year). Really outdated cameras in the MacBooks. And all of this takes looooooooooooooong.
Apple has never been a fast mover expect in the OS world. Here Apple moves way to fast and keeps releasing new OS versions just days after the last update reached some stability.

While users waiting for features they would like to have, Apple implements things like Magsafe charging for the iPhone.

What is wrong with you, Apple?
Apple has always worked this way. Even all the way back to the original iMac (remember those colorful plastic monstrosities that make for good aquariums today?), the internals were a year or two behind the current market and other computer manufacturers. You paid top dollar for a processor or chipset that was two years old, in a brand new computer. It has always kind of been par for the course with Apple, and I suspect why their Intel models could boast the stability they could (due to two years of bug fixes already being available), but that doesn't make it not a rip-off.

At least with your iPhone you're getting the bleeding edge Apple silicon, but yes, the camera is overdue for a refresh and instead of removing TouchID in favor of FaceID, they should have put the in-screen fingerprint reader in and offered both. Even without a mask, I don't like the idea that someone can just face my phone at me and unlock it if I don't want them to. The technology may be more secure than the old finger readers (but so is the ultrasonic fingerprint reader that works under the screen), but the application and human element, not so much.
 
He said "iOS fifteen-dot-four," which wreaked havoc here in South Florida. Other than that, the video was fine.

Most people would say "iOS fifteen-point-four."
Dude, you're in Florida. Temper your expectations accordingly.

The rest of the world doesn't have Florida Man, or get confused by "dot" vs. "point", or even by butterfly ballots with arrows on them. ?
 
This really isn't a useful or even especially insightful response to his complaint. He *does* want an iPhone, he just wants an iPhone with an additional feature. Your answer, if extended out to its logical conclusion, would have us all still using the original iPhone, or at least one with no more features than that model had.

I know a man who wants a cat, but only if it barks.

The world does not exist to give you everything you want. If no manufacturer in the world makes a phone that satisfies you, start your own company and make your own phone. Otherwise, you’ll have to settle, just like the rest of us.
 
What I would really like to see is some form of 2-factor authentication now that we are all paying bills, doing banking, purchasing, storing our ID (i.e. digital driver's license) and credit card info, digital tokens for work, etc. on our phones.

What I envision is using your watch + FaceID, watch + TouchID, or if you forget your watch, FaceID + TouchID to unlock the phone. Apple already has the pieces and just needs to put them together.
 
The fact that Apple is willing to deliberately weaken the robustness of a heavily touted security feature in order to facilitate the normalisation of face coverings makes me seriously question their motives going forward. What else will they be willing to do in order to rub up to government decrees in the future? I don’t care if people want to wear masks but I do care that everyone else has to potentially suffer the consequences. I suppose at least you can disable it on your own device, but if the banks and card issuers don’t block this then they too have pinned their colours to the mast.
Explain to me how you are going "suffer the consequences" when the feature is optional and you never have to use it?

And I can't see any reason why a bank or credit card issuer would specifically require you to enable FaceID with a mask. This isn't even a logical fear.
 
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No but I read the article. Apple reportedly says it is less secure. And considering it’s only measuring, at best, a third of your face, I fail to see how it can’t be. Deliberately weakening biometric security in exchange for convenience doesn‘t seem like a great idea to me, but others will disagree. As is their prerogative.
I mean, it's only weakened if you choose to enable it. Otherwise your FaceID is business as usual. So you get what you want, and those who want to unlock their phone with a mask on get what they want.
 
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Explain to me how you are going "suffer the consequences" when the feature is optional and you never have to use it?

And I can't see any reason why a bank or credit card issuer would specifically require you to enable FaceID with a mask. This isn't even a logical fear.

Because the precedent of deliberately weakening security is bad for everyone in the long term. You can disagree if you wish.
 
i would have preferred Face ID would add the mask option within the regular Face ID and let the phone recognize you with and without the mask automatically. is there something i'm missing?
 
As someone who lives in Finland, I would never trade Face ID for Touch ID… gone are the days of taking my gloves off just to unlock the phone.
Fair enough..but in most other regions this isn’t an issue and a fast under display Touch ID will be much more intuitive and easier.

I never had issues with Touch ID but usFace ID sometimes fails and it’s REALLY annoying when it happens .
I own a 13 Pro Max so the latest version too.

they really should give people both options.

I know android face scan isn’t as accurate and sophisticated as Face ID but they’ve been offering both under display fingerprint scanner and face unlock for years..
 
Fair enough..but in most other regions this isn’t an issue and a fast under display Touch ID will be much more intuitive and easier.

I never had issues with Touch ID but usFace ID sometimes fails and it’s REALLY annoying when it happens .
I own a 13 Pro Max so the latest version too.

they really should give people both options.

I know android face scan isn’t as accurate and sophisticated as Face ID but they’ve been offering both under display fingerprint scanner and face unlock for years..

See, it has been the exact opposite for me. Touch ID was always notoriously bad back with my iPhone 6 & 7 Plus and still with my iPad Pro 12.9" (2015). My hands dry out so quickly and unless I have them lotioned, I get constant problems. I have tried countless times to reprogram my fingerprints, I have also had 4 fingers always programmed in (Index and Thumb on both hands), just always have problems where I need to enter my passcode (which I have set to alphanumeric). Face ID has always just worked for me with my iPhone X and iPhone 12 Pro. Since getting the update to be able to unlock with Mask while wearing my Apple Watch, that has worked great as well for me to unlock with mask, but I have had the issues where I get a notification that my phone unlocked by the watch without me interacting with it.
 
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What I would really like to see is some form of 2-factor authentication now that we are all paying bills, doing banking, purchasing, storing our ID (i.e. digital driver's license) and credit card info, digital tokens for work, etc. on our phones.

What I envision is using your watch + FaceID, watch + TouchID, or if you forget your watch, FaceID + TouchID to unlock the phone. Apple already has the pieces and just needs to put them together.
I think it’s a fair concern: if someone has our phone and our PIN number, they can do a lot of damage. So much more stuff is hypothetically readily accessed on a lost/stollen phone vs a lost/stollen wallet.

I don’t plan to own a watch. If I did, it would only be worn during exercise sessions.
 
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