Regular Face ID is not affected by my RayBan sunglasses.So it doesn't work with sunglasses.
But what if you have this feature turned ON, AND you're NOT wearing a mask but are wearing sunglasses -- does the phone unlock then?
Regular Face ID is not affected by my RayBan sunglasses.So it doesn't work with sunglasses.
But what if you have this feature turned ON, AND you're NOT wearing a mask but are wearing sunglasses -- does the phone unlock then?
you seem terribly concerned,.. how about you just don’t use it? Problem solved
We always find ppl complaint whatever Apple did/do....The best interest for APPLE should be do nothing and keep what it is forever will do
Front camera on 13 is superior to 12Why is this restricted to iPhone 12 and up? Same technology all along, there is no reason why iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone 11 series can’t have this feature.
Also why not give people option for both face unlocking and fingerprint sensor?
Not that I would know but a poster in the other face unmask thread said it could be due to the newer Secure Enclave changes with the model 12 and 13. I don’t know anything about this so take it for what it is.Why is this restricted to iPhone 12 and up? Same technology all along, there is no reason why iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone 11 series can’t have this feature.
Also why not give people option for both face unlocking and fingerprint sensor?
Ah yes, priorities... Is it a greater priority to facilitate a security feature, or facilitate public health and safety?The fact that Apple is willing to deliberately weaken the robustness of a heavily touted security feature in order to facilitate the normalisation of face coverings makes me seriously question their motives going forward. What else will they be willing to do in order to rub up to government decrees in the future? I don’t care if people want to wear masks but I do care that everyone else has to potentially suffer the consequences. I suppose at least you can disable it on your own device, but if the banks and card issuers don’t block this then they too have pinned their colours to the mast.
I did until my iPhone 6S broke last month and I couldn't find a replacement in time for a trip. Got a 12 mini.Stop wishing for finger print unlock and vote with your wallet
If you have an iPhone 11 or older, the feature will not be available to you.
The difference is that AW only unlocks your phone. If you use Face ID to protect passwords, banking apps, or anything else that may use Face ID authentication, the AW doesn't help. You would have to use your passcode.Haven't a lot of us been doing this already when attached to our apple watch? This simply takes the watch out of it..... Surprised how many people don't seem to have an apple watch here on MR.
Also funny how many people whine here on MR.... Everything apple does just isn't good enough for some lol.
These people probably don't even have winter in their countries or care to wear gloves, as they seem to be immune to frozen hands from harsh winter winds where using Touch ID hurts the average Joe.Ah yes because that was always so convenient in the winter while wearing gloves.
Did you set up the additional setting of "Face ID with glasses?" It comes up as a prompt after you set up face ID with a mask afterwards. It's also in Settings.upgraded to 15.4 just for this. i wear glasses and it has no problem recognising me with glasses + mask on.
i wonder why it took them this long to release it. maybe they wanted to spend a bit more time seeing how secure it'd be to unlock with just your eyes/eyebrow and without an apple watch as a secondary factor.
thanks apple.
The US has winter, but Silicon Valley doesn't reallyThese people probably don't even have winter in their countries or care to wear gloves, as they seem to be immune to frozen hands from harsh winter winds.
Or there could be a technical reason for why older generations don't have this available to them. "The iPhone 12 features the latest Neural Engine for improved machine learning features and capabilities. Apple says the new 16-core Neural Engine offers an 80% increase in performance compared to the prior generation. On the flip side, the iPhone 11 is powered by Apple’s A13 Bionic processor as well as the third-generation Neural Engine."Apple probably thinks that iPhone 11 owners are clearly stuck in pre-pandemic times.
Many people have Control Center enabled on the lock screen though…Since it’s a little less secure than regular FaceID, it would be nice if Apple could add a control center button to quickly enable and disable it without having to dig through settings. That way if your going out for a while, you can quickly turn it on and then have it off other times.
What are people doing with their phones that they'd want to unlock it... But keep their gloves on and still not be able to use the touch screen...?These people probably don't even have winter in their countries or care to wear gloves, as they seem to be immune to frozen hands from harsh winter winds where using Touch ID hurts the average Joe.
Many gloves have capacitive fingertips. So you can use the phone but not log into it with Touch ID.What are people doing with their phones that they'd want to unlock it... But keep their gloves on and still not be able to use the touch screen...?
Not only that, they act as if they can actually use their phone with gloves on. Silly people. Face ID is not a definitively superior solution over Touch ID. They both have strengths and weaknesses.??♂️ Cover your face too, then.
Why does everyone seem to think these two features have to be mutually exclusive?
All I ever have to do is pull mask down for a sec below my nose and bingo.
Apple yesterday released the iOS 15.4 beta and introduced a useful new feature that lets you unlock your iPhone with Face ID while wearing a mask. Face ID with a Mask does not require hardware like an Apple Watch for authentication, and though it makes Face ID a bit less secure, it is much more convenient in a world where many of us are still wearing masks on a regular basis.
After updating to iOS 15.4 on a compatible iPhone, Face ID with a Mask comes up as a setup option. You can enable it right away with a new Face ID scan, and from there, unlocking your iPhone with Face ID while wearing a mask is as easy as it is without a mask.
Just swipe up on the Lock Screen of your iPhone with your mask on and it will unlock as expected with Face ID. Face ID with a mask is almost identical to Face ID without a mask, but it's not going to unlock from unusual angles because direct eye contact is required. You need to be looking right at your iPhone for Face ID with a Mask to work, which isn't always the case with standard Face ID.
If you didn't enable the new Face ID feature at setup after installing iOS 15.4, you can do so later under Settings > Face ID & Passcode. You'll also want to visit this section if you plan to wear glasses while also wearing a mask.
Glasses wearers will need to put on glasses, put on a mask, and use the "Add Glasses" feature to create a new Face ID scan that will let Face ID work with both facial accessories. Face ID with a Mask cannot be used with sunglasses because the feature needs to see your eyes.
Apple says that Face ID with a mask can "recognize the unique features around the eye" for authentication purposes. It is not as secure or as accurate as full-face recognition, but it is much more convenient, especially for iPhone users who do not own an Apple Watch for unlocking.
Unlike the Apple Watch Face ID feature, Face ID with a Mask is fully identical to standard Face ID in terms of what can be authenticated. You can use Face ID with a Mask for Apple Pay purchases and in lieu of a passcode in third-party apps.
Face ID with a Mask is available on the iPhone 12 and iPhone 13 models. If you have an iPhone 11 or older, the feature will not be available to you. It's not clear if this is a temporary restriction, and it's possible Apple could be planning to expand the feature to other devices in future betas.
Have you tried Face ID with a Mask? Let us know what you think in the comments below.
Article Link: Testing iOS 15.4's New Face ID With a Mask Feature
I prefer Apple devices, otherwise. Among the Apple devices, I want the one with the best camera functionality. That one doesn’t have TouchID. So... ??♂️
I don’t see why FaceID and TouchID have to be mutually exclusive. Give us the choice on the same devices.
It works for me while wearing both sunglasses and a mask. But the sunglasses are custom made prescription - before the modification (with non-prescription shades), Face ID did not work at all. So it depends on the material used in the sunglasses.So it doesn't work with sunglasses.
But what if you have this feature turned ON, AND you're NOT wearing a mask but are wearing sunglasses -- does the phone unlock then?
You have choices. The fact that the choices aren’t perfect doesn’t mean you don’t have any.
No matter what product Apple produces, there will be people here who complain about it. Even if their complaint is something as insignificant as the notch or white bezels, MacRumors will amplify it into a crisis comparable to Russia invading the Ukraine.
You don’t know that it’s less secure. Given that they were able to do mask detection since 2020 and it not working for sunglasses, it sounds like they‘ve put in more work to make it secure than just toggled something on.What a shame to decrease the security of Face ID for such a lame reason. The Apple Watch solution was the secure solution. This is just a poor decision, that's 2 years too late anyway.
Nowhere did Apple is saying this is less secure, just that it’s “less accurate” In the setup screen, which can mean that there is a higher chance it won’t recognize your face. Since it requires newer phones and doesn’t work with sunglasses, there’s a good chance it requires more computational speed and uses more scanned datapoints near your eyes in order to keep a high level of security. Seems like it’s just macrumors speculating how secure this is.I have tinting regular glasses so I guess this won't work for me in some cases.
I don't like the reduced security. But it makes sense why it is the case.
Because apple gets to decide how and why, no need to justify any choice they make. Apple has never been about user choice.I’m wondering how this won’t work on an iPhone 11 at least? It’s not exactly underpowered..