I was a Flash dev back then and I assure you many of us did not cheer. Now Java on the other hand? Good riddance.
The context has changed since then. iPhone should be more open. A lot more open.
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I was a Flash dev back then and I assure you many of us did not cheer. Now Java on the other hand? Good riddance.
The context has changed since then. iPhone should be more open. A lot more open.
Is this a tacit admission that Apple has won the smartphone wars despite having only 20% market share worldwide, that everyone is now gunning for a piece of Apple?
As have the anti dcma moaners here.
Why wouldn't you want a more functional usable device?
It was blocked from the start when there was no app store nor an intention to have an app store. The intention was for people to use HTML5 to make web applications. But people clamored for native apps instead.
Am I the only person going to websites that use animation, including apple's website itself?!?
I wasn't aware the rest of humanity only browsed reddit/youtube.
I don't see where I said that you were the only one. I only asked that you imagine an Apple that improves their software as much and as often as their hardware.
Why wouldn’t anyone buy a more functional usable device? If a company is making a device that people don’t want to buy, that company should be allowed to eventually cease to be. The EU apparently really wants to keep Apple around.
They’re asking Apple to PLEASE make their products more like the Android products that currently rule the market. We’ll see Apple’s market share in the EU rising due to the DMA.
450 million is only 6.5% of the global population. Doesn’t seem like enough to be the dominating rule maker that has such impact on the rest of us.
Fallaciously focusing on a single example from a list that includes several is pretty disingenuous. Also I notice you completely ignored the question. No surprise.
If opening up iOS could have helped boost Apple’s market share, don’t you think Apple would have done so a long time ago?
Their popularity is because of their closed ecosystem, not in spite of it.
I guess you and I have differing takes on what a more functional and useable iOS device entails.
In the short run, the ability to run different browser engines on your iPhone might allow for more varied use cases and allow for more functionality. In the long run, I am leery about the possibility of WebKit being replaced by chromium (I am already seeing that with companies like Spotify opting to build their native desktop apps using chromium, possibly out of convenience, so it’s just a glorified web view).
So the TL; DR is that it’s easy to overestimate the short term impact of any move, while severely underestimating the long term ramifications. It’s really the unintended consequences that not enough people seem to be talking about. It’s all very short term and superficial takes like being able to download and run emulators on your device.
This isn't surprising.
Apple could be going into this as a hero and open the gates wide to get things done for the people who use their devices. Instead, it's like watching a bully get caught.
We understand that they're a business and want to make money. How does having alternate browsers that don't use their own internals do anything but help users? Safari is so often a security risk.
Apple could be going into this as a hero and open the gates wide to get things done for the people who use their devices. Instead, it's like watching a bully get caught.
We understand that they're a business and want to make money. How does having alternate browsers that don't use their own internals do anything but help users? Safari is so often a security risk.
This has nothing to do with whether the EU is right or not
Apple has agreed to their terms and now they’re putting unnecessary roadblocks on the DEVELOPERS because “Aaaah but we’re still following the rules
”If you keep your American liberal brainrot free market nonsense at bay for one minute you can realize how unnecessary and petty this is - just let the devs work on the god damn rendering engine regardless of location
Make it so that it only works if you’re debugging if you absolutely cannot tolerate the idea that a couple hundred people are getting away with using chromium on and iPhone in the US
There’s many ways to prevent abuse and they chose the one that’s most annoying, THAT is what’s petty
Apple makes business decisions based on the finite resources they have access to. Opening up iOS was never something they couldn’t do, it’s what they didn’t want to do. Because, while some folks would like it, their preference was to improve in the myriad other areas that were attractive to folks that preferred it was locked down. Each of the changes they’re making for the DMA eats into their developer budget, not just from an implementation, but from a security and testing perspective. And, while there will definitely be an increase in hardware sales, Apple didn’t see it as worth the effort (especially considering that they have voluminous info about what people actually want, unlike the EU regulators that hasn’t been behind the creation of a worldwide success story in ever).
As these changes continue to roll out, EU companies (behind the EU regulators) will be rolling out their own disjointed jumbled solutions and will be marketing those to their customers. What they’re hoping to see (and I expect they will) is that by increasing the numbers of Apple users, they’ll also increase the amount of revenue they receive from their digital goods and services (as Apple users generally spend more). With an added benefit of being able to route those ever increasing revenues through third party processors and other companies also in the EU. Coupled with the fact that the EU is trying to pass legislation that will lower the number of Android phones available and you come up with the EU wanting to have a mostly Apple market like the US, but with much of they money going to EU companies instead of US companies.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by legislation that will end up reducing the number of android phones available in the EU? I am not aware of any laws being passed along this line.
I don't care, I wish Apple hadn't complied with this. The EU, by "working to eliminate monopolies" has now helped an actual monopoly (Google, with its Chromium web engine) get more powerful. Because let's be honest, it isn't Firefox who this is helping. And I wholeheartedly believe a small percentage of the smartphone userbase being locked into WebKit is millions of times less harmful to the world than giving Google more power over the web.
You’ll excuse me for not really buying into what appears to be an odd conspiracy theory in which the EU wants to increase Apple’s sales in order to somehow juice up the whole European cell phone market. It just doesn’t make any sense and you’re not offering any kind of evidence to support this stuff, so…
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The European Union needs to do something about Google and Chromium, but that's a separate issue. The browser engine issue is still something that needs to be addressed, it just so happened that it's the issue that was addressed first.