Well as others like Mac Rumors staff said it’s working fine, let’s wait till the final release before claiming it doesn’t work as well with multiple things on the go at once? I can’t personally test it as I have an M1 iPad Pro.
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Testing Stage Manager on a 2018 iPad Pro With the New iPadOS 16.1 Beta
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Well as others like Mac Rumors staff said it’s working fine, let’s wait till the final release before claiming it doesn’t work as well with multiple things on the go at once? I can’t personally test it as I have an M1 iPad Pro.
A 500Mhz G4 with 256mb of RAM could run dual 1080P displays, and run expose (far predecessor to mission control and Stage manager) without any significant issues. If you had a Quartz extreme capable GPU the experience was better, but the system still worked. In 10.4 you could also have widgets running in dashboard, again, without issue.
The minimal RAM in the older iPads is likely of minimal concern considering how efficient iPad OS is with Memory management.
This is 2022. 500 MHz and 256 MB of RAM is useless for ANYTHING. Why are we still comparing this to old tech? I used an okay system in 1995 and was able to use Word. That system won’t even be able to OPEN the newer Word versions let alone let me type a few words.
That is not the comparison I was relaying. You completely missed the point I was trying to bring across.
In short, what I was saying is the iPad has enough power and memory to support true windowed multi-tasking with multiple displays. The minimal memory in an iPad is not much of an issue provided Apple included controls such as max resolution on an external display, and maximum applications that could be open.
No it doesn’t. iPad Pro has had HORRIBLE memory. It’s my only complaint and why I like the M1 iPad Pro because they FINALLY put decent memory in there. It’s 2022, not 2006, not 1995. One Application these days, even an iPad app uses more RAM than I ever had in 1995. And about half or all the RAM I had in 2006 (I had 2 and 4GB of RAM back then).
Again, these days 8GB is pretty much the hard limit with Windows 10 and 11 and Macs. That’s an absurd amount compared to a full working OS in 1995.
I like on my gen 3 pro. I am using multi windows reading news and watching storm chasing feed in Florida and texting people much easier for me to use than split screen which I personally do not like and seldom use.
We disagree, but I appreciate you sharing your viewpoint.
:EDIT: added comment.
My personal iPad Pro (2018) has no issues running anything my (work) M1 does. iPad OS, nor the applications that are supported are really that taxing for either. I do see speed improvements when working with large files and batch editing photos on the M1, but it isn’t really that significant.
6GB is reasonable for a 2020 iPad Pro?!?! I have had nothing but issues with my old iPad due to the RAM limitations. I got the iPad with 16GB of RAM and finally the iPad experience is decent enough.
You seem really upset about this, or concerned. It's okay for people to disagree. You have the iPad with the amount of ram that you need now and it's great that you enjoy it! It's a wonderful product.
See my added comment in the post you quoted. I do not wish to debate with you to the ground, we will not change each others mind on the subject. I appreciate your viewpoint but respectfully disagree.
Look around. A lot of people complain about the iPad pros “Ram decisions apple made”. Even in this thread. If you can use iPad with 6GB of RAM then great! Just like I cannot use a system with 8GB of RAM. I need 32GB minimum for my main system. 64GB ideal. But others can use a desktop with 8GB just fine. In fact one of my 7 computers has 8GB of RAM. I could not use the iPad comfortably until it got 16GB of RAM. 8 might have been okay, but my experience with the 2020 iPad with 6GB of RAM was horrible. So I went with the 16 model.
And this is all based on system requirements. This is proven by this update. Older iPads can only have 4 apps vs 8. And no external display support.
At what point does it make sense to just put MacOS on the iPad Pro, and just add some tablet-specific tweaks for usability with the form factor? These things cost as much or more than many convertible computers or ultrabooks, use the same processors as MacBooks now, and have more capability than full notebook computers of just a couple years ago. There’s still a lot of frustrating limitations when using an iPad Pro, limitations which are increasingly unnecessary due to any hardware limitations. As iPad Pros get more and more powerful, using essentially a phone OS is only going to get more ridiculous. Also, MacOS (with said tablet usability tweaks) on the iPad Pro line could be a selling point to help differentiate them from the increasingly powerful standard iPad range.
On the other hand, someday Microsoft will eventually get their act together for Windows functionality on tablet, developers will get fed up with App Store policies and revenue splits, and Apple could find themselves losing their lead in this form factor segment. Again, like USB-C on iPhone, it will probably take external factors to force Apple to “innovate” in a post-Jobs world.
On the other hand, someday Microsoft will eventually get their act together for Windows functionality on tablet, developers will get fed up with App Store policies and revenue splits, and Apple could find themselves losing their lead in this form factor segment. Again, like USB-C on iPhone, it will probably take external factors to force Apple to “innovate” in a post-Jobs world.
Apple wants us to buy Macs, in addition to iPads. It's nice that iPads finally get some more ram I agree. I need 1TB of ram for my main system (Mac Pro) so I understand the value and requirement for larger ram requirements. I just don't think they want us using the iPad Pro's the way we use our Main Systems, at least not yet. Maybe when iPadOS is more mature, I'm sure they have a nice 5-10 year roadmap for all of this.
Yes and that is why I asked how 6GB of Ram is okay for some people. I’m trying to convert some of my workflow to my iPad as (outside of the RAM) it actually speeds up my workflow. Maybe because I’m trying to use my iPad Pro as a pro I’m facing more issues? But with the 16GB model I’m finally able to do some of my workload on the iPad.
And yes, I agree. It’s 2022, why do we even need a macos and iPadOS? Just change how it looks when docked vs undocked. I actually prefer surface products in this area, essentially running full Windows 10/11. But the hardware on these are horrible!
My friend, that machine cannot run a retina level 4K display.
It can’t even decode and play a 720p h264 DVD rip. Even 1.5Ghz G4 struggled with that.
You cannot compare the interface and graphics abilities of today’s era to then.
That’s delusional or misinformed.
This looks sweet, I guess at the end of the day how much is this WORTH in use case usability, vs. the RAM and CPU/GPU overhead that is required to enable it vs. just the historic essentially swapping out of one window vs. Another.
Historically, PIP was always there depending on the APP and integration to IPos 14+? I wonder if we’re putting more lipstick on a pig here at the mercy of overall efficient or optimal usage if not usability.
Yeah if I were doing intense tasks like streaming video ect might be some problems but multitasking surfing my news, storm chaser feeds, and other it is faster to use in switching to focus on one or another.
iPadOS is efficient with memory management precisely because it gets to kill background apps. Stage Manager requires leaving all apps in the staff running. It also requires quickly resuming apps that are no longer in RAM at all when switching stages.
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But here is a related story.
It’s almost impossible to open a 20 or 30 year old plain text file or Word document today without getting all kinds of Unicode errors. You will need a bridging machine or two or three to convert the document several times.
Or fix all the errors manually.
Any news is good for the cynics these days.
Apple: Spells their company name A-p-p-l-e
Cynics: OH high and mighty money grubbing Apple… w’s aren’t good enough for them? It’s time for timmy to go. And something about virtue signaling by using the first letter of the alphabet?
What about extension of stage manager to ipad air 4 then?
If A12 can run it, why couldn’t an A14????? Both (Ipad pro 2018 & air 4) come with 4 Gb of ram.