I jailbroke mine and it's fine. I only have SSH installed though. I don't install Jailbroken apps because they suck.
I wish I could change the icons easily though... that's what I miss.
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I jailbroke mine and it's fine. I only have SSH installed though. I don't install Jailbroken apps because they suck.
I wish I could change the icons easily though... that's what I miss.
i feel bad for everyone having problems. I have maybe 16 downloaded apps and I use mail ALOT as well as SMS ALOT. I'm really really happy with the phone.
Also, i've had many phone calls that lasted well over an hour without dropping.
Overall im satisfied!
Also, i've had many phone calls that lasted well over an hour without dropping.
Overall im satisfied!
Or Not. I have had two jailbroken 3G's and neither has any Apple logo of death problems. I've had it go into what I thought was one, but after holding the power/home button to reboot it and waiting a minute or so it started working.
I've set them up as new iPhones every time, and the only thing that's different is the 6 "purchased on my iPhone" playlists in iTunes. This most recent one has been the best, but I'm hoping that 2.1 will make the rest of the issues disappear.
Funny how many useless posts there are in these forums.
Yes, I know that this is one of them, but it had to be said.
For the original poster. You didn't lose netshare. iTunes can't delete app files. It can remove their aliases from the apps tab of itself but it can't delete on it's own. In fact even when you tell it to delete something it just moves it to the trash but you can still pull them out. When you plugged your phone in it thought you were a differnt user and tried to remove the unauthorized files. Your DRM file got corrupted. That's also what caused your instability in the first place.
Go to the apps in iTunes, right click and tell it to show you the original file. Pick any app it doesn't matter. This will take you to the folder where your apps really are. Pick up the netshare app and drag it back onto iTunes and all will be well. Not only does iTunes not get rid of apps on it's own you'll also notice multiple copies of apps in this folder. Everytime you update an app you actually install a whole new version on the computer. So if you ever want to downgrade an app just delete the current one and drag the previous one from this folder to iTunes and resync.
Go to the apps in iTunes, right click and tell it to show you the original file. Pick any app it doesn't matter. This will take you to the folder where your apps really are. Pick up the netshare app and drag it back onto iTunes and all will be well. Not only does iTunes not get rid of apps on it's own you'll also notice multiple copies of apps in this folder. Everytime you update an app you actually install a whole new version on the computer. So if you ever want to downgrade an app just delete the current one and drag the previous one from this folder to iTunes and resync.
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You know what I think is funny? I think it's funny that the only way to recover from an Apple Logo of Death (ALoD) is to jailbreak and install OpenSSH.
Or maybe "funny" isn't the right word. Perhaps a more appropriate word would be "pitiful." Or "pathetic." Actually, any of these would suffice: pitiful, pathetic, ironic, embarrassing, unbelievable, sad, ****ed up, inexcusable.
Take your pick.
Elven said:
You know what I think is funny? I think it's funny that the only way to recover from an Apple Logo of Death (ALoD) is to jailbreak and install OpenSSH.
Or maybe "funny" isn't the right word. Perhaps a more appropriate word would be "pitiful." Or "pathetic." Actually, any of these would suffice: pitiful, pathetic, ironic, embarrassing, unbelievable, sad, ****ed up, inexcusable.
Take your pick.
I didn't wait in line but I can tell you I don't think I bought a POS. I fortunately have had very few problems and certainly no more (probably fewer) than I have had with other smartphones.
It's hardly a POS. Apparently you read a few complaints and you assume that every iPhone sold has problems. READ! My two iPhones have been perfect!
There will always be contrary to the fact. I don't doubt your positive experience but what I do know is that the negative reports regarding all the software issues, and cracks etc.. are waaayy too many relative to the negative reports you'd hear about a product that is of good quality..
What this tells me is that for any future consumer who buys an iphone 3G, he/she will have a high chance of experiencing these issues.
You don't hear about all the thousands of perfect iPhones becausw hy would anyone post a thread saying they aren't having any problems, amd I doing something wrong here?
Use our head. There are thousands and thousands of people not having problems. I've seen threads here and on the Apple forums asking people to post who are not having problems, loads of people posted.
note to you: I've written in CAPS key words that you seem to have missed in my posts. Or that you can not comprehend. Read on:
No doubt there are many who are also having trouble free iphones. What I'm saying is... RELATIVE to a healthy product, and considering the same percentage of those users will also report problems, there is much much higher reporting of issues that are common to multiple owners. So compared to a healthy product(such as another smart phone that doesn't have this many problems) a person who decides to buy an iPhone will have a HIGHER CHANCE of experiencing usage problems.
+1
I know there are many who are experiencing issues but you have to remember the axiom about customer service. If a customer has a good experience they may tell 1 person. However, if a customer has a bad experience rest assured that they will tell no less than 10 people.
The same thing applies to products. A person who is having no issues is very unlikely to say anything, especially not on a forum. Whereas a person experiencing problems is going to look for a solution and make posts about their problems in hopes of getting help.
Is the iPhone experiencing more problems that other high tech gadgets that come out? It's hard to really say. Every day the usage of blogs and forums increases. The world becomes a much more connected place every day. Trying to compare what problems a product has today and compare it to a product that came out as little as a year ago based on blogs and forums is a very inaccurate and faulty comparison.
That isn't to say there aren't problems with the iPhone and that isn't to say that the iPhone has more problems than other gadgets, it's just to say it is hard to make that determination just based off of what you read on the internet.
are people really that obtuse?
I do not doubt that many people are having trouble free iphone 3G experience.
I'm only comparing the AMOUNT of iphone problems reported by many many users against that of other smart phones. This tells me that iphones in general have MORE issues than the other smart phones!
I do not doubt that many people are having trouble free iphone 3G experience.
I'm only comparing the AMOUNT of iphone problems reported by many many users against that of other smart phones. This tells me that iphones in general have MORE issues than the other smart phones!
But you're not actually comparing the AMOUNT of iPhone problems, because if you were, you would look at the complaints, and subtract them by 8+ million (as in total iPhones sold to date), because presumably if you're not complaining about it, chances are you don't have a problem, and I know there aren't 8 million people bitching about their phone in threads such as this.
No, people are not obtuse. The problem is that as advanced as other smartphones may be, there are unique things about the iPhone that makes it different and difficult to compare.
For example, third party apps actually offered by and served up by Apple via iTunes. Currently, no other cell phone manufacturer offers this type of program. I'm not suggesting you can't get 3rd party apps for other smartphones, my point is that because of the way Apple has implemented the third party apps (using iTunes and purchased through Apple) and the number of 3rd party apps, you are hearing more problems associated with the iPhone than you will with say a BlackJack II. That doesn't mean there is a problem with the iPhone, the problems could very well be with the 3rd party app.
Secondly, the iPhone is being marketed to the average consumer unlike other smartphones and has sold a large number in a very short period of time as compared to other smartphones. This is going to result in a higher number of problems just due to the shear number of buyers.
Along with the average consumer buying the iPhone compared to other smartphones comes the issue of how problems are addressed. For example, if a business person that works for a large corporation that uses a Blackberry and has a problem they are most likely going to go to their IT department and complain, not get on a forum. The average consumer is more likely to get on a forum.
There are many other similar points that can be made. What I am trying to say is that your observations can be considered very subjective and there are many problems with forming any conclusions based simply on forum postings or blogs.
That doesn't mean your conclusion is wrong, but it also doesn't mean that it is correct.
Agree.
Also, those who are not having problems, with any hardware device or software, tend not to post. Usually it is those with problems attempting to find a solution, or in some cases just complain.
its probably because you are in New Hampshire.
It you were anywhere where actually people lived then you'd probably be having problems.
We've already established that the iPhone works great if the ratio is 3 iPhone 3G's per AT&T tower.
Its when there's a sh*tload of people around that this bad sh*t starts happening.
we already did this survey here in Macrumors and the results were overwhelmingly dis-satisfied/let down by the iPhone 3G.
I feel your pain...
I've gone thru the same over the last few weeks. My 1st gen iPhone has been rock solid up to the 2.0.x firmware releases (and recent iTunes releases as problems seem to be tied to both of them, specifically DRM-related between the mobile app store and iTunes app store, etc).
I've lost important data, and not-so-important data (ie game winnings, etc.). At this point this iPhone really cannot be used for critical data and is nothing more than a toy until they get this fixed. I've wasted countless hours restoring and re-entering data, only to have the phone lock up and do the same thing every 2-3 days.
I've been a Mac user for 15+ years, do my own tech support, blah blah blah. Never in my life have I seen such a pathetic release leave Apple's doors. They have had one failure after another as of late. It has got to stop somewhere.
I've emailed 'Teh Steve' a few times over the last week and have received responses within less than 12 hours. I've asked why Apple won't publicly acknowledge the issues and pointed him to several threads here, Apple's own discussion board, TUAW, etc. From both emails sent I received the following brief responses:
1. "Nathan,
We are working on a software update for September that should fix these problems. Thanks for your patience.
Steve" <---this was on 8-30-08
2. "We are working on a software update for this month that should fix this problem. Thanks for your patience.
Steve" <---this one was earlier today
If you ask me the responses seem canned and didn't come anywhere close to addressing my concerns. His replies also don't confirm if we'll see any relief on Tuesday the 9th either, just said "September" so I wouldn't count on anything.
I thought I finally had a good reliable backup in case anything stupid happened again until we see 2.1 but late last night the phone locked up hard while I wasn't doing anything special (stuck Apple logo). I was like, OK, no biggie, I have a good backup with all my settings so I'll just restore back to it. Start the process and get the error in iTunes saying my backup is corrupt...are you effin kidding me?!?!?
Yes, I've tried everything under the sun as this has been about the 20th time I've been forced to restore in the last month and a half...utterly disgusting.
I hate to say it but the jailbreakers got it right. When I was running jailbroken I NEVER had any problems, never had to restore, apps installed in seconds (NOT freakin' 10-20 minutes for a 1mb App...come on!) and the phone ran smoothly. Fast forward to the 'official' release by Apple and they have literally self destructed.
Sorry to be so long winded but I'm sure I'm not the only one needing to vent about this right now.
I sure hope we see a fix soon.......
Nathan
I've gone thru the same over the last few weeks. My 1st gen iPhone has been rock solid up to the 2.0.x firmware releases (and recent iTunes releases as problems seem to be tied to both of them, specifically DRM-related between the mobile app store and iTunes app store, etc).
I've lost important data, and not-so-important data (ie game winnings, etc.). At this point this iPhone really cannot be used for critical data and is nothing more than a toy until they get this fixed. I've wasted countless hours restoring and re-entering data, only to have the phone lock up and do the same thing every 2-3 days.
I've been a Mac user for 15+ years, do my own tech support, blah blah blah. Never in my life have I seen such a pathetic release leave Apple's doors. They have had one failure after another as of late. It has got to stop somewhere.
I've emailed 'Teh Steve' a few times over the last week and have received responses within less than 12 hours. I've asked why Apple won't publicly acknowledge the issues and pointed him to several threads here, Apple's own discussion board, TUAW, etc. From both emails sent I received the following brief responses:
1. "Nathan,
We are working on a software update for September that should fix these problems. Thanks for your patience.
Steve" <---this was on 8-30-08
2. "We are working on a software update for this month that should fix this problem. Thanks for your patience.
Steve" <---this one was earlier today
If you ask me the responses seem canned and didn't come anywhere close to addressing my concerns. His replies also don't confirm if we'll see any relief on Tuesday the 9th either, just said "September" so I wouldn't count on anything.
I thought I finally had a good reliable backup in case anything stupid happened again until we see 2.1 but late last night the phone locked up hard while I wasn't doing anything special (stuck Apple logo). I was like, OK, no biggie, I have a good backup with all my settings so I'll just restore back to it. Start the process and get the error in iTunes saying my backup is corrupt...are you effin kidding me?!?!?
Yes, I've tried everything under the sun as this has been about the 20th time I've been forced to restore in the last month and a half...utterly disgusting.
I hate to say it but the jailbreakers got it right. When I was running jailbroken I NEVER had any problems, never had to restore, apps installed in seconds (NOT freakin' 10-20 minutes for a 1mb App...come on!) and the phone ran smoothly. Fast forward to the 'official' release by Apple and they have literally self destructed.
Sorry to be so long winded but I'm sure I'm not the only one needing to vent about this right now.
I sure hope we see a fix soon.......
Nathan
Which would only serve to prove that the majority of iPhone 3G owners visiting MR are dis-satisfied.
I'm not suggesting that there really aren't problems, nor am I suggesting that the problems are minimal. My only point is that the results will be skewed because people without problems aren't going to get on the internet to find solutions to problems they don't have.
My phone running the all sorts of Apps, 2 emails accounts and more apps then I care to have. I loaded the phone with a ton of apps in preparation for my trip I just returned from. Yes it is jail broken and I have no issues, I use the phone both stock and Jail broken an had no issues. However, now that my trip is complete I will most likely factory it in prep for 2.1. Definitely don't need all the kid apps on it until next trip.