There is no market over $1200, they need to lower the price or it will be a premium product only. I've read the reports
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'That's What We Do, We Wait' Says Fake Apple Employee in New Samsung Ad Mocking Lack of Foldable iPhone
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I recently got my hands on a foldable Samsung and I have to say that it's not something I'd likely buy. The owner did like it, and I do understand why; basically he appreciated the way it was able to bridge the gap between phone and tablet. But it just felt inelegant and clunky, to me. If Apple does build one, it's still not likely something I'll buy... Mind you, I already have an iPad, and most of my time is spent on a laptop, so I'm clearly not the target user.
Yep, the essence of the ad is partially true, despite the fact that I’m zero interested in foldables and little people I know that have one. But, yeah, we had to wait for many new features that were already on the competition.
From 0.31 depth on an Iphone 14 to 0.67 depth on the Samsung Z Flip 4, so disengenous for you to claim you need stretchy pockets, that difference is barely discernible, the Samsung phone is clearly more compact than the Iphone, it is akin to saying your risk of dying from disease X is twice as large as disease Y (and implying that double the risk is huge) when Y only kills people 1 percent of the time, context is king.
I love this commercial because it's my main criticism of apple. I don't know how many times I've posted a comment on some MR article about how Tim Cook's Apple, yet again, is late to the game. Every thing Apple does now is more like Tim Cook crunched the numbers and determined just the teensiest little bit to release to squeeze the maximum amount of profit. It used to be that that sometimes they were first, but if they weren't first, when they did get there they were FAR SUPERIOR. Now they are always late, and often when they do release new things, they are already behind. I'm sure enjoying my brand new, top of the line, thousand dollar+ iPhone on this wifi 6e network at my house. Oh, wait. This 4k@120 sure is silky smooth on my brand new Mac Mini. Oh, wait. Hmm, I think I'm going to buy my niece the entry level macbook. Should I get the M1 or the latest generation M2 version? Surely the M2 version will outperform the M1. Oh, wait.
This ad specifically, which doesn’t really explain anything other then it folds and has a better camera. The tech is cool but not something that I would need from a cellular device.
Yeah, I think most Apple users have run across this lag. As I mentioned, mine was waiting on larger phones.
However, in the newest iPhone we are still waiting for that longer telephoto. That being said, I also want it integrated where it makes a real difference in quality and from what I have seen, some of the iPhone digital zooming is better than the true zoom in comparison photos (check the Maxtech videos). It is the way the iPhone processes the image. Also, more pixels look good on paper until you compare results. From what I have seen, I don't agree that the Samsung has better cameras (video or photo).
All in all, on most stuff I would just rather wait and have a better shot at it being done in a way that actually gets better results rather than being a spec that looks nice in marketing material. Also, even in areas with a real difference, these differences don't exist in a vacuum, so no one is really changing OS because of one missing feature unless it outweighs all of the other things in the package that Apple does better.
I understand the criticism but why do we expect any different from the Apple CEO, keep those Iphones on the assembly line until you can extract every last dollar out of them, his duty is to the shareholders first, now if somehow one of their competitors invents the Iphone or smartphone killer, perhaps someone invents it from their metaphorical garage, then old Timmy will fly away in his golden parachute, maybe Jony Ive will be installed as the new CEO, who knows, but for now, too much money is flying in to upset that golden goose.
Silly commercial, as a generality, but not so silly in practice. While Samsung takes aim at Apple's slow to release innovations (I have no problems with a company doing it's best to test their products before release), I DO find myself waiting on Apple, time after time. My wife uses Windows laptops, I use Mac. When she goes to buy, there are always multiple vendors who are releasing the latest tech they can, whether it's HP, Dell, or whatever. So she always has pretty up to date choices. With Apple, I find myself waiting constantly for this or that release, never knowing when or if it will come. But it's the devil I know, I guess, and if/when I do buy something, I'm usually pretty happy with it. But it would be nice to have more choices, honestly.
I guess Samsung can't take aim at that aspect of Apple's business without acknowledging the other Apple competitors (and Samsung competitors) that make such choice possible.
I guess Samsung can't take aim at that aspect of Apple's business without acknowledging the other Apple competitors (and Samsung competitors) that make such choice possible.
I'm not arguing you are wrong about the hinge, but in practice it's not an epidemic and we aren't seeing widespread reports about the hinge failing. So at this point it's just Chicken Little yelling the sky is falling. But with that said I don't want to put down your decision if it's based on a perceived weak point, there isn't anything wrong with that at all and certainly the Fold has some trade offs. For myself I have used and abused 2 generations of the Folds now with no issues, but for such an expensive phone I get insurance anyhow, same as I would on an iPhone. Anecdotally I've had plenty of iPhones fail within the first year, including my wife's iPhone 13 Pro just a few months ago. But again, this does not mean the Fold is a solution in search of a problem.
On two devices that share a single internal screen, not so much. Functionally when closed it's a phone, when open it's a phone, functionally it IS a single large screen that folds into a smaller screen. What you are describing is more like the Surface Duo. Take a look at the Xioami Mix Fold 2, 11.2mm thick when folded versus a bit under 8mm for the IP14 pro max, these phones are only getting thinner. But even with the thickness of the Fold 4, it still fits into my pocket much more easily than a Pro Max, but again just anecdotal and this type of personal preference is highly individual, and again, it doesn't mean it's a solution in search of a problem.
So I think you can see that all your points are just pointing out your personal preferences and how a folding phone wouldn't suit you. NOTHING wrong with that at all, zero, I totally support your freedom to find the device that best suits your needs. But again, and I hate to keep hammering this point but it's really my only point, NONE of that means today's folding phones are a solution in search of a problem.
On the Flip type devices I'm personally not a big fan of them, I highly doubt I would ever own one. While I think the use case and "solution" is much more narrow than a tablet sized screen, I can still appreciate that some would find that a viable solution.
Well you accomplished disparaging not only Fold owners, but Max iPhone and iPad Mini owners, nice! I joyfully carry it around everywhere as I find it fits into my pocket much more nicely than my previous iPhone 13 Pro Max, and a HELL of a lot better than an iPhone and an iPad Mini (which is practically huge because of all the hardware around it versus the "lopped" off Fold which achieves such an incredible screen to device ratio). It's always odd to see people contort over themselves just to find a "valid" point to disparage others preferences.
Seems rather strange that the industry seems to be going back in time to the flip phone, albeit with updated ability.
I’ve seen a couple people. It’s cool I guess. Just not for me. I don’t like Android software so I am more then happy to “wait” for apple to have it. But I’m not really sure I want it. Don’t really personally see the appeal for it. But maybe Apple’s spin on it will interest me.
I think that these adds are more about trying to cement brand loyalty for existing Samsung customers, rather than winning new ones
I’m not sure the comparison is valid. As far as I can tell, the I’m a Mac adds were about promoting a different experience to what was, as the time, the norm (PCs). This intrinsically requires a comparison with the ‘norm’. The adds were highlighting the benefits of Mac, over Pc, in a creative a funny way. The Samsung adds don’t feel like this to me.
At least we know that if Apple does put a foldable out it will be refined and superior to Samsung
I really really love the 120Hz displays. Biggest reason why I got the 13 Pro.
I cannot believe that 120Hz is still Pro feature in 2022. To me the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz is like night and day.
My work phone, 300 euro Android has 120Hz display.
I cannot believe that 120Hz is still Pro feature in 2022. To me the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz is like night and day.
My work phone, 300 euro Android has 120Hz display.
I am yet to see anyone using a folding phone, and I live less than 6 miles from a Samsung fab and have friends that work at Samsung. They are blue in messages, by the way.
And Samsung gives you 40% off Samsung products if you work there (or at least they used to).
The real problem with Samsung's ads is the defcon 3 levels of cringe they always come strapped with
1. Salt in a paper cut
2. A clingy stalker Ex with a high powered attorney
3. forced to use a folding phone (with a crease in the middle)
4. A government agency taking a deep interest in you personal and financial life
5. To be stung by a murder hornet.
And as you play, "would you rather" with this list, how many of you asked "is the stalker ex kinda cute at least?"