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in the Apple vs Microsoft campaign, apple highlighted microsoft's flaws. Samsung mocks Apple users. That's the difference.
You don't know what you are talking about. Apple depicted a PC as an older nerdy guy that was socially awkward, as opposed to the Mac guy who was younger, more "cool"
 
I have no need for a folding phone. If Apple makes one, I would not have any interest. I don't want to fuss with folding and unfolding the thing. I prefer an iPad when I want a tablet at home (mainly for editing photos and reading the News+ app) and the iPhone Max screens are plenty when I am out and about (actually use it a lot at home while the iPad sits nearby).

I would appreciate a longer zoom lens on the iPhone, but I have seen the Samsung version and it's there, but the quality seems pretty low (basing this on comparison Youtube videos and no direct experience). However, it does a better job that digital zoom when you just need a more clear pic of something in the distance. The other lenses on the newer iPhone look superior from comparisons I have seen. So, I still wouldn't switch to Samsung for the camera (all else being set aside) since I would rather have the better quality on portraits and landscapes.
 
One of my best friends has one. You notice the fold when someone else is using it but not when it's right in front of you.
It's great to be able to have a large keyboard on one side and a normal sized image on the other.
It's like having huge phone without it being a huge phone.
There are plenty of reasons not to have Android especially with the Samsung interface over it but I bet that if Apple made one everyone would say it's great.
 
They have had a complete line of ads showing exactly the benefits and uniqueness of a folding phone, spots running during big events including the NFL.
Yea I like the ones just for the device without the negative about Apple.
 
I've seen a few. One of my co-workers has one and I've noticed some others. Every single one, you can see that ugly crease in the middle from even relatively far distances. Trash product.
Come to think of it, I have seen one and yes, it had a spot you could clearly see the crease. And it looked like you'd expect from creasing plastic. Not even a straight crease but more janky.
 
One of my best friends has one. You notice the fold when someone else is using it but not when it's right in front of you.
It's great to be able to have a large keyboard on one side and a normal sized image on the other.
It's like having huge phone without it being a huge phone.
There are plenty of reasons not to have Android especially with the Samsung interface over it but I bet that if Apple made one everyone would say it's great.
I am sure some reviewers will like it since they seem to like new tech. However, I don't see it as a big seller....more like those small phones that are for a smaller niche. It just seems impractical for a phone to have to fold and unfold it even if they can figure some way to make it less brick like. I personally wouldn't have an interest in owning one.
 
Android 13 is coming to Fold4/Flip 4 in November. I would love if Samsung gave us public betas worldwide like Apple.
Agree. I have to look it up again. The timeframe was still super vague when I last checked

EDIT: Thanks. Now will this mean 11/30/2022 11:59.999999999999999 pm in the last time zone?
 
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I live in L.A. and am still have yet to see one.

Of course, at the coffee shops, we have two lines:

The Blue Bubble line and Green Bubbles.

I don't pay attention to that green line.
The whole point of this advertisement is to target American people. You don’t generally see these advertisements in Europe & almost anywhere else.
 
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Yes, I’ll definitely admit I wait. I wait for Apple to get things right that the Android ecosystem does with a quick and crappy implementation that will only last for six months.
 
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The phones in the two images you posted look absolutely nothing like the phone in the referenced ad.

Now that you made me get all scientific about it I have had to look at the specs.

It appears the phone in the ad is a Samsung Galaxy Z Flip4, which has a 6.7" FHD+ Dynamic AMOLED 2X Infinity Flex 2640×1080 display.

In comparison, the iPhone 14 Pro has a Super Retina XDR 6.7" 2796×1290 display.

The iPhone screen is the same size but has 755640 more pixels, or roughly a 25% increase.

The volume of the iPhone is about 98 cubic centimeters. The Flip4 is about 101 cubic centimeters when folded (based on an average between the hinge end and the sagging end which isn't as thick) which of course is more.

So the iPhone has a significantly better screen at the same size and a 3% smaller pocket volume.

I'll send your "Duh" right back to you.

(Now the Fold4 looks like a much more interesting concept which I absolutely can see a use case for, but once again, this is not the phone shown folding in the ad, which is the topic of this thread.)



Yeah, and they still do. I held on to my iPhone 4s for a long time, until I caved and got the 5s for other reasons. I then skipped the 6 and 6s entirely due to size. I would easily pay thousands of dollars to get the 13 mini internals I have now in a 3G/3GS form factor with an edge-to-edge display.



All those things can be done just as easily from a lock screen of a normal phone. (Or a watch, which means you don't need to get the phone out at all.)



As noted above the volume is larger than the iPhone 14 Pro. Is half as high and twice as thick easier to carry? I guess, if you have really small but stretchy pockets.



Really? You need the phone to fold in order to prop it up? And in doing so, you choose to sacrifice half your screen size? For watching video? That sounds like a truly AMAZING experience. 🤦‍♂️

This reminds me of watching CSI on a plane in 2005 on the 5th gen iPod's 320×240 display. I had to bring my own kickstand though, so I guess it was a little worse.

I'm with you on the lock screen critique, I don't know why IOS doesn't allow you to do all that now with the lock screen, if you really want to reduce your smartphone usage though, I think the cover screen can be more effective in that regard, but nevertheless, Apple should do that right now.

And the smartwatch stuff, yes, but until the smartwatch becomes fully independent of the phone, I'm not there, Apple is close though with the Ultra.
 
Come to think of it, I have seen one and yes, it had a spot you could clearly see the crease. And it looked like you'd expect from creasing plastic. Not even a straight crease but more janky.

I'm not saying that any of your critiques are not valid but to be fair, everyone here should be judging this phone off the latest model, some of the things I have read in this thread have been corrected or improved.
 
One of my best friends has one. You notice the fold when someone else is using it but not when it's right in front of you.
It's great to be able to have a large keyboard on one side and a normal sized image on the other.
It's like having huge phone without it being a huge phone.
There are plenty of reasons not to have Android especially with the Samsung interface over it but I bet that if Apple made one everyone would say it's great.
I'm not against the idea. I just want it to be executed right. None of this crappy looking crease. It needs to be better quality than that.
 
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The whole point of this advertisement is to target American people. You don’t generally see these advertisements in Europe & almost anywhere else.
I do remember experience this waiting game and came close to switching to Android back then. I wanted a larger screen and Apple was sticking with the small phone design. If it hadn't been for rumors that a bigger phone was on the way and the fact that I had many Airplay systems around the house, I would have jumped that fence.
 
Foldable phone? You mean flip phone or is that not the hip word anymore for the same thing? Still have an old Samsung flip phone somewhere. And no, not waiting for Apple to bring out one. Didn't like back then, so also not now.
 
Apple isn't waiting. There is no market beyond the ultra rich or nerd looking for status or bragging rights

This site is littered with too many declarative statements, do a search on this site and you will see reports from credible sources that they are working on foldable screens right now.
 
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Do you live in a rural area?
I live about 60 miles from Silicon Valley and I've only seen two Samsung Flips so far. I see hundreds of Apple Watches per day, though.

Samsung probably has the biggest share of the Android-based phones I see but they're almost always low end devices.
 
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Time to bring this out of retirement with a little edit.

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I think many of you are missing the point. Samsung is trying to sell screens. They would like Apple, especially, to start making foldable phones. Apple would source those screens from Samsung. Who knows, that just may happen.
 
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