So there is no argument. Just faith and blind trust. What's the point of discussing anything here if the simple answer is just blindly trusting and therefore anything else doesn't apply. There's no discussion to be had there.I trust Apple's judgement.
I give them the benefit of the doubt.
You don't. End of story.
NEXT.
They select what they think they can get away with, what gives them the best margins, where as the customer experience SHOULD (as this is what has made apple so big) come slightly ahead of profit margins.
So there is no argument. Just faith and blind trust. What's the point of discussing anything here if the simple answer is just blindly trusting and therefore anything else doesn't apply. There's no discussion to be had there.
Give me a rough calculation of how much Apple would lose by starting iPhones at 32GB
Amazing!
A company tries to price a product at Supply and Demand equilibrium!
What a concept! So you think Apple should just give away stuff for free? LOL. Apple can barely keep up with iPhone demand for the first 6 months of release and you want them to give more stuff away for free? LOL. This isn't candyland, this is real life.
Around $10 more per phone. Not gonna do that much damage to a company that makes as much money as Apple.
Give me a rough calculation of how much Apple would lose by starting iPhones at 32GB
Which says nothing about the fact that they can still improve as they have been over time.Not blind trust.
Apple has a proven tract record of success.
Not blind trust.
Apple has a proven tract record of success.
Its like a friend who never lied to you for 20 years. Then he tells you something that seems unbelievable. Are you going to trust him? I would because he has a proven track record.
Apple has a proven tract record of providing customers with the best products and user experience. Its been this way for decades.
I'm bring FACTS to the table. Go ahead and prove me a shill by disproving my FACTS.
Funny how people who don't have FACTS on their side start to throw insults.
Not sure you've been reading the same thing as me. You're caught in a world where numbers are the only thing that matters so I pity you.
I want apple to give premium specifications to a premium phone. As simple as that. Apple makes more than enough money, and consumers have given more than enough of their money to apple, so sometimes it is Apple's turn to give back.
I really really shudder to think of a word run by bean counters like you. We'd all be screwed over by companies with no mercy whatsoever, because apparently slightly higher product margins matter more than anything else.
And that benefits the customers how again? It's clear that Apple can make more more money by doing less or using cheaper components, but the big part of this was that it was somehow benefiting the customers.Nope. Its not about the saving they make from replacing a 16GB chip with a 32GB chip.
You need to calculate how many users who would normally buy the 64GB phone if the line up stayed the same (16/64/128) but would opt for the 32GB phone with a new lineup (32/64/128).
For each of those situations Apple would lose about $75-$80 of pure profit.
Nope. Its not about the saving they make from replacing a 16GB chip with a 32GB chip.
You need to calculate how many users who would normally buy the 64GB phone if the line up stayed the same (16/64/128) but would opt for the 32GB phone with a new lineup (32/64/128).
For each of those situations Apple would lose about $75-$80 of pure profit.
The second round of Jobs was not about bean counting. Apple proposed by putting the customer slightly ahead of profit margins which is no longer the case.without bean counting Steve Jobs almost ran Apple into bankruptcy.
You need a balance of both.
Since when do consumers care how much a company would lose when moving with the times? On that reckoning they should offer 8GB of storage and 1GB of RAM forever. After all, we wouldn't want to lower their profit margins would we.
The second round of Jobs was not about bean counting. Apple proposed by putting the customer slightly ahead of profit margins which is no longer the case.
Well good for them. Sometimes the consumer should come ahead of things like that. Apple is the richest company in the world. They can more than afford it. Plenty of people will still buy a 64 GB phone.
+1!I really really shudder to think of a word run by bean counters like you. We'd all be screwed over by companies with no mercy whatsoever, because apparently slightly higher product margins matter more than anything else.
And how many times have those deemed trustworthy been found to be hypocrites or liars or involved in something else nefarious? Reality proves your basic assumption wrong. The fact that you would even try to use that to support your arguments in the face of reality showing that it simply isn't true only further demonstrates the flaws in the foundations of the arguments.Not blind trust.
Apple has a proven tract record of success.
Its like a friend who never lied to you for 20 years. Then he tells you something that seems unbelievable. Are you going to trust him? I would because he has a proven track record.
Apple has a proven tract record of providing customers with the best products and user experience. Its been this way for decades.
You said it benefits customers. None of that shows that.I don't think consumers need to care about the profits Apple makes.
I'm just explaining why Apple did not start with 32GB. And its not because Apple is greedy. Their profit margin is 21%. That is not excessive at all. But if you do think 21% profit margin is excessive feel free to buy a discount brand phone. Hundreds of millions of people are willing to pay for Apple products.
I don't think consumers need to care about the profits Apple makes.
I'm just explaining why Apple did not start with 32GB. And its not because Apple is greedy. Their profit margin is 21%. That is not excessive at all. But if you do think 21% profit margin is excessive feel free to buy a discount brand phone. Hundreds of millions of people are willing to pay for Apple products.
+1!
Obviously Apple would lose money by upgrading the entry level to 32gb, but looking at their financial numbers it wouldn't hurt them at all. But Apple prefers to slightly increase their profits to make the pile of unused cash even bigger instead of selling a way better product.
I can't judge them for doing this, in the end it's a commercial company, but I can't get in my head that a customer praises them for doing that![]()