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The 2012-2013 Football Thread

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^ That is one hell of a wall of text! Even more shocking since I'm on my phone and that took ages...inbetween rather unsure if Happybunny went amok...then at last: wiki.

Good read though! And thanks for bolding up some parts :D
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Remember, kids – despite what some police forces would have you believe watching football is not a crime.
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I for one can really feel for these fans, the police tried the same thing here many years ago, but it was struck down by the law courts.:mad:

I couldn't read in the article that you posted as to why the police acted like this. I also wonder if they try that kind of crap on a Top Premiere Side, say Manchester Utd?
 
Happybunny said:
I for one can really feel for these fans, the police tried the same thing here many years ago, but it was struck down by the law courts.:mad:

I couldn't read in the article that you posted as to why the police acted like this. I also wonder if they try that kind of crap on a Top Premiere Side, say Manchester Utd?
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The police haven't given any real justification other than it's apparently for the protection of the citizens of Huddersfield, whose safety would be in grave danger from hordes of drunken football fans. This ignores the fact that the Home Office's statistics show that only 14 Hull City fans were arrested in the whole of last season, and not one of those was for any alcohol related offences. Indeed, the reverse fixture here in Hull earlier in the season passed off without any incident or trouble whatsoever.

There's bafflement as to why we're being singled out. Supporters groups have submitted Freedom of Information requests to the police which by law they have to respond to – they haven't done so.

The majority of City supporters are boycotting the match in protest, only around 400 tickets have been sold whereas you'd expect us to at least come close to selling out the usual 4,000 away capacity. It's a shabby, needless decision that smacks of arrogance and contempt on the part of the authorities, and if they're allowed to get away with implementing 'bubble' tactics like this on law abiding supporters with no just reason then we're setting a very dangerous precedent.
 
Jaffa Cake said:
The police haven't given any real justification other than it's apparently for the protection of the citizens of Huddersfield, whose safety would be in grave danger from hordes of drunken football fans. This ignores the fact that the Home Office's statistics show that only 14 Hull City fans were arrested in the whole of last season, and not one of those was for any alcohol related offences. Indeed, the reverse fixture here in Hull earlier in the season passed off without any incident or trouble whatsoever.

There's bafflement as to why we're being singled out. Supporters groups have submitted Freedom of Information requests to the police which by law they have to respond to – they haven't done so.

The majority of City supporters are boycotting the match in protest, only around 400 tickets have been sold whereas you'd expect us to at least come close to selling out the usual 4,000 away capacity. It's a shabby, needless decision that smacks of arrogance and contempt on the part of the authorities, and if they're allowed to get away with implementing 'bubble' tactics like this on law abiding supporters with no just reason then we're setting a very dangerous precedent.
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This action will hit the club affected in their income, all because something might happen.:mad:

I do hope that Hull City fans are able to get the relavant information as to why. Could the real reason be as the police have to cut back because of the present financial crisis, it is seen as a cost cutting measure? Less over time maybe?

I will hope that you keep us all up to date with how this plays out.
 
Jaffa Cake said:
The police haven't given any real justification other than it's apparently for the protection of the citizens of Huddersfield, whose safety would be in grave danger from hordes of drunken football fans. This ignores the fact that the Home Office's statistics show that only 14 Hull City fans were arrested in the whole of last season, and not one of those was for any alcohol related offences. Indeed, the reverse fixture here in Hull earlier in the season passed off without any incident or trouble whatsoever.

There's bafflement as to why we're being singled out. Supporters groups have submitted Freedom of Information requests to the police which by law they have to respond to – they haven't done so.

The majority of City supporters are boycotting the match in protest, only around 400 tickets have been sold whereas you'd expect us to at least come close to selling out the usual 4,000 away capacity. It's a shabby, needless decision that smacks of arrogance and contempt on the part of the authorities, and if they're allowed to get away with implementing 'bubble' tactics like this on law abiding supporters with no just reason then we're setting a very dangerous precedent.
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Tough one. I can see their point, they don't want anything bad to happen.
But have there been that many outbursts from Hull fans this year? I don't recall any incidents with you lot.
They could have allowed only home team fans. So at least they are letting some of you in.

Maybe I'm being cynical here but is there a chance, seeing that they are playing the #2 team in the league, they simply want to stack the odds in their favor by not allowing as many away fans in?
 
pachyderm said:
But have there been that many outbursts from Hull fans this year? I don't recall any incidents with you lot.
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Nope – as I mentioned in my earlier post, the number of arrests at our matches in recent years have been very low and we've not got a bad reputation or anything that I'm aware of. From a personal point of view, I attend all our home matches and a few away games each season, and I've not had any negative reactions from fans of other clubs who I've met with.

pachyderm said:
Maybe I'm being cynical here but is there a chance, seeing that they are playing the #2 team in the league, they simply want to stack the odds in their favor by not allowing as many away fans in?
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I don't think the police are bothered about trying to give the home side an advantage or anything.

Now, this match's kick off time was originally moved to lunchtime on the say of the police – but then Sky wanted the match moved to later so they could broadcast it, to the chagrin of the fuzz. It has since come out that Huddersfield have been refused permission by the police to move matches on a couple of occasions already, so much so that they've been threatened with punishment from the League for filing to fulfil their obligations in this regard. Huddersfield and the League have therefore stood firm on wanting a late kick off for this match.

The police's collective nose seems to have been put out of joint by this, and they're taking it out on supporters with draconian restrictions on how we can travel to West Yorkshire.

Aside from the problem of limiting people's freedom of movement, the police's stance has also served to create an air of tension around a match where previously there was none. And ironically enough, far from being two sets of hooligans apparently baying for each others blood supporters from both clubs have joined together to protest against these sanctions.

Happybunny said:
This action will hit the club affected in their income, all because something might happen.:mad:
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Indeed, Huddersfield fans recognise that it's affecting income for their club as well as depriving them of a good atmosphere at a match which is of importance to both teams. I'm sure they're also aware that while it's the fans of another club who are the subject of these restrictions this time, in the future it may be them who have their ability to travel affected.
 
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pachyderm said:
http://www.swfc.co.uk/news/article/olofinjana-joins-737428.aspx

good or bad signing jaffa?
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Opinion's divided on him – he's a player brought in on a big money Premier League deal who's never really done it for us. He's decent when he's playing well but I don't think too many will be shedding a tear to see him go.

Worth pointing out however that he had a decent spell on loan at Cardiff a season or two ago, under a certain Dave Jones. Clearly your gaffer liked him enough to go in for him again – I think he managed him at Wolves too.
 
For some reason, it really bugs me when teams wear their change kit when there is no reason to. Norwich is wearing their black kit against Wigan today.
 
A huge win for us then, on an afternoon when our rivals all got the jitters. Tuesday night we've got third place Watford at home and what a game that promises to be.

Meanwhile, a couple of hundred City and Terriers fans joined together for a protest march through Huddersfield town centre this afternoon. No bother at all reported, nor any at the match itself. Funny that. :rolleyes:
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Opinion's divided on him – he's a player brought in on a big money Premier League deal who's never really done it for us. He's decent when he's playing well but I don't think too many will be shedding a tear to see him go.

Worth pointing out however that he had a decent spell on loan at Cardiff a season or two ago, under a certain Dave Jones. Clearly your gaffer liked him enough to go in for him again – I think he managed him at Wolves too.
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Well I've heard from one of my Wednesday mates that he and Stuart Holden crushed it today vs Barnsley.

So, for right now, he is a Godsend. :D
 
looks like somebody wanted to send a message to Juventus, unfortunatly for the HSV they were the horse

Bayern : HSV - 9:2

edit: Claudio "Third Choice" Pizarro: 4 Goals : 3 Assists
 
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