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And I know we're probably both not objective about it, but what's wrong with alerting the officials? Especially if they're actually doing something illegal? I'm sure it happens more often than you would think (and it happens in other sports as well). I also think that the Jets got jobbed on some calls in the first game (again, I'm not completely objective) and that may have had something to do with it.

Do you really think that Bill B. wouldn't do the same to give his team a better chance of winning?

I wouldn't have an issue with it if it were being consistently called on every team in every game. It's not though, and that's wack. Even your link shows it isn't. The Jets have done it, too. I can't imagine lots of teams HAVEN'T done it this season. Letting that kind of call decide a game is absurd. Just have the damned kickers line up on the field alone if the issue is "player safety."

I thought about that. I don't know if Bill would have done it. I'm sure there were instances this season of teams playing the Patriots that have used that push, and I haven't heard anything about New England whining to the league. And I'm glad.

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Agreed. The Vikings would have been better served by trotting out Cassel or Ponder rather than Freeman. Someone said it looked like Freeman had only been with the team for 9 minutes instead of 9 days.

Agreed. Cassel especially. I know Ponder has been hot garbage this season, but Cassel could have done a better job last night. Didn't Freeman set the record for overthrows in a game or something silly like that? He's talented, but if he keeps getting put into crap situations, his chances are going to dry up.
 
I wouldn't have an issue with it if it were being consistently called on every team in every game. It's not though, and that's wack. Even your link shows it isn't. The Jets have done it, too. I can't imagine lots of teams HAVEN'T done it this season. Letting that kind of call decide a game is absurd. Just have the damned kickers line up on the field alone if the issue is "player safety."

I thought about that. I don't know if Bill would have done it. I'm sure there were instances this season of teams playing the Patriots that have used that push, and I haven't heard anything about New England whining to the league. And I'm glad.


Eh. I think the Jets-Patriots thing just magnifies the whole situation. We know they don't like each other. And I have no doubt that New England whines just as much as everyone else does. Nobody was complaining last week when a missed call helped the Pats. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.


We can agree to disagree though. :D

With no playoff baseball and the Texans nosediving (at least the tailgating is world class!) all I have is the Jets! Throw me a bone!!
 
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Eh. I think the Jets-Patriots thing just magnifies the whole situation. We know they don't like each other. And I have no doubt that New England whines just as much as everyone else does. Nobody was complaining last week when a missed call helped the Pats. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.


We can agree to disagree though. :D

With no playoff baseball and the Texans nosediving (at least the tailgating is world class!) all I have is the Jets! Throw me a bone!!

You got the win what more do you want? :D

Congrats, though.
 
Let me be clear in saying I don't blame the stupid special teams call for the Patriots loss on Sunday. The Jets won because of 60 minutes. That said, this is a little bitch thing to do:

Source: Jets tipped officials on push

You call it a bitch thing to do, I call it a coaching staff who is well-prepared, knows the rules and pays attention to detail.... If you want to see the real definition of bitching check out tom brady any time anyone comes near him or his receivers and the refs don't throw a flag... that there is some real bitching.

Gotta love the NFL. That said, I'm absolutely positive this won't be forgotten by New England if they see the Jets again this season. Part of me really, really, REALLY hopes they do

Careful what you wish for, I seem to remember a lot of patriots fans saying the same thing not so long ago before the 2010 playoffs.
 
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You call it a bitch thing to do, I call it a coaching staff who is well-prepared, knows the rules and pays attention to detail....

Yeah...because that's exactly what I'd call the Jets organization. :rolleyes:

Careful what you wish for, I seem to remember a lot of patriots fans saying the same thing not so long ago before the 2010 playoffs.

Believe me...I hope it does happen. I can guarantee you if it went the other way, you guys would be throwing fits. The Jets won, let's leave it at that.
 
he he he.... i'd say that whoever let the refs know about it did their job.

as a coach or a player you have to say something like to keep it fair and your guys a chance.


and hope like hell you don't get caught when you do the same thing... =P
 
What's up with injuries this year? Seems like the past few years every year there have been more and more serious injuries.

Pats just lost yet another starter (Vollmer) probably for the season and the Dolphins had a WR already blow out his knee.

If injuries keep increasing like they have been this year the league is going to need 100 man rosters in 5 years.
 
What's up with injuries this year? Seems like the past few years every year there have been more and more serious injuries.

Pats just lost yet another starter (Vollmer) probably for the season and the Dolphins had a WR already blow out his knee.

If injuries keep increasing like they have been this year the league is going to need 100 man rosters in 5 years.

^^^This. I too wonder what's going on. Hell. 2/3 of my fantasy team has been knocked out.

Manning has two ankle sprains and their just pumping painkillers into him to play.
 
^^^This. I too wonder what's going on. Hell. 2/3 of my fantasy team has been knocked out.

Manning has two ankle sprains and their just pumping painkillers into him to play.

Brady's apparently got some issue with his throwing hand too.

I'd be interested to see if somewhere is keeping stats of how many games every team has lost players to injury.


Patriots are ****ing atrocious today. If I was Bob Kraft I'd fire Josh McDaniels at halftime. Ever since Gronk came back Brady has been forcing it to him and ignoring all his other receivers. Garbage. And they bench Ridley for the entire 1st quarter over his celebration last week when he's the only running back who doesn't suck? Brilliant move Bill, throw away the game today just because your RB celebrated too much.

Pats might as well just go home now at halftime if they want to keep playing this badly.


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Wow what a turnaround. Seemed like an entirely different team showed up in the 2nd half.

How about the finish to that Detroit/Dallas game too?
 
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Giants only 2 games out of first place.

Eli: " We still believe"

MacNut: What say you?


That said, the Jets look like a high school team so far.
 
Giants only 2 games out of first place.

Eli: " We still believe"

MacNut: What say you?


That said, the Jets look like a high school team so far.
Messed up isn't it. A few more Cowboys games like that and the Giants will win the east.
 
Messed up isn't it. A few more Cowboys games like that and the Giants will win the east.

Agreed. My son and I were talking at the Broncos game yesterday after the Cowboys/Lions score was shown, it is pretty amazing that the Giants who are 2-6 are only 2 games behind the Cowboys for the NFC East lead.

Just goes to show how crappy that division is. I think the winner of that division will have a losing record.
 
Agreed. My son and I were talking at the Broncos game yesterday after the Cowboys/Lions score was shown, it is pretty amazing that the Giants who are 2-6 are only 2 games behind the Cowboys for the NFC East lead.

Just goes to show how crappy that division is. I think the winner of that division will have a losing record.

It's kind of like the NFC East and the NFC West have traded places this year.
 
Game tonight = worse played game ever. Both teams were there but they sure didn't play.

Edit : but Seattle is now 7-1

They needed this crappy game .
 
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Game tonight = worse played game ever. Both teams were there but they sure didn't play.

Edit : but Seattle is now 7-1

They needed this crappy game .

and that game actually came down to the last play right?


i didn't see any of it just went to nfl.com to see the score. poor clemens kid.
that is a lot to throw o him in such a short time.
 
Game tonight = worse played game ever. Both teams were there but they sure didn't play.

Edit : but Seattle is now 7-1

They needed this crappy game .

I can't believe that Seattle actually won that game. Their offense only produced 7 first downs and 135 yards.:eek:
 
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