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I'm thrilled that the US has qualified for the WC, but I'm just dumbfounded by how poor the Mexican side has been during qualifying. They should be a decent squad, but have struggled all year. For their sake, I hope they figure something out.

I was at the match. Incredible atmosphere(especially compared to what kind of crowd we get here in Nashville for USMNT). At first we were playing a lot like England did earlier that afternoon... poorly.

I actually thought we were very sporting last night.

As soon as we'd had a single kick at the ball we'd very sportingly (and gentlemanly) immediately passed it back to the other chaps so they could have a go too.

It would have been quite selfish to have tried to keep hold of the ball, rush up to the other end and try and embarrass their goalkeeper by kicking it into the net. Gosh, that would never do, what would those people who travelled all the way from England to watch would have thought of such selfish behaviour?

LOL. I pointed that out to my buddy whilst we were watching you lot at the pub.
 
I was at the match. Incredible atmosphere(especially compared to what kind of crowd we get here in Nashville for USMNT). At first we were playing a lot like England did earlier that afternoon... poorly.

I'm pretty jealous then! I tried getting tickets through OSU, but didn't get selected in their lottery.
 
Meanwhile, if this piece in today's Guardian is anything to go by it looks like as we expected the Allams are dropping any pretence of retaining 'City' in the club's name and are hellbent on just 'Hull Tigers'.

Also of note is that the Premier League have qualified their earlier refusal to put the new name on League tables and stuff - they've confirmed that it was merely due no official application being made and that they're apparently not opposed to the change in principle.

"In a few years many clubs will follow and change their names to something more interesting and I will have proved I am a leader."

Bloody hell. Prepare yourselves for the Sheffield Steelmen, Reading Monarchs, Manchester Lucky Seven and Tottenham... er... Cocks.
 
Meanwhile, if this piece in today's Guardian is anything to go by it looks like as we expected the Allams are dropping any pretence of retaining 'City' in the club's name and are hellbent on just 'Hull Tigers'.

Also of note is that the Premier League have qualified their earlier refusal to put the new name on League tables and stuff - they've confirmed that it was merely due no official application being made and that they're apparently not opposed to the change in principle.

"In a few years many clubs will follow and change their names to something more interesting and I will have proved I am a leader."

Bloody hell. Prepare yourselves for the Sheffield Steelmen, Reading Monarchs, Manchester Lucky Seven and Tottenham... er... Cocks.

That is terrible Jaffa, but that is how todays world is no interest in tradition and history, today the only thing that matters is brand image and profits. I think that I read some where that the EPL makes vaste profits from shirt sales in the Far East.:(

Those names sound more like MLS names.:eek:

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That's interesting.

I heard a radio programme last year where they were discussing having a 'sin-bin' for football in the event of a yellow card being given like in rugby, but most people said it would be ineffective.
The main reason for this being that most teams could just shuffle their formation for ten minutes, possibly bringing a defensive midfielder into defence, a striker into midfield etc, and when the player comes back on he's actually refreshed and an advantage to the team.

I'm curious to see how it works out.

I will keep you informed of how this system works out, at the moment it is far to early to have any judgement.
 
That is terrible Jaffa, but that is how todays world is no interest in tradition and history, today the only thing that matters is brand image and profits. I think that I read some where that the EPL makes vaste profits from shirt sales in the Far East.:(

Those names sound more like MLS names.
Not mentioned in the article, but divulged by the journalist via twitter - the ever thoughtful Allam has been thinking up names for other clubs unfortunate enough to be saddled with the common, lousy 'City' moniker.

He reckons 'Manchester Hunter' has a nice ring to it. No, seriously. Manchester Hunter.
 
Whew. Been off in the brush doing archaeology for 10 days. Good to be back in the world of football.

I was at the match. Incredible atmosphere(especially compared to what kind of crowd we get here in Nashville for USMNT). At first we were playing a lot like England did earlier that afternoon... poorly.

An outstanding result for the USA. I was only able to watch the first half live, but saw an abreviated version of the second half later. We should have no illusions about a big paradigm shift in CONCACAF though - we'd just been beaten by Costa Rica and Mexico were terrible. They are disorganized and demoralized at the moment. They are much better than they showed in Columbus.

With that being said, USA won convincingly without two of their best players (Altidore and Bradley) and two of our better defenders. USA played well in the second half after a slightly dodgy start.

The biggest thing for me was the crowd in Columbus. When I attended the 2009 edition of this match, USA fans were outnumbered 2-1 by the Mexico fans. But this time, for the first time, it was really a home atmosphere. This is a paradigm shift, a watershed moment. A new generation of fans are turning out in much bigger numbers than ever before.

Now that qualification has been achieved, the difficult work begins. Klinsmann must build and prepare a squad with sufficient talent, depth and confidence to make an impact in Brazil next year. I think the raw materials are there. With hard work and a little luck a quarterfinal appearance is not an unreasonable goal.

Meanwhile, if this piece in today's Guardian is anything to go by it looks like as we expected the Allams are dropping any pretence of retaining 'City' in the club's name and are hellbent on just 'Hull Tigers'.

Also of note is that the Premier League have qualified their earlier refusal to put the new name on League tables and stuff - they've confirmed that it was merely due no official application being made and that they're apparently not opposed to the change in principle.

"In a few years many clubs will follow and change their names to something more interesting and I will have proved I am a leader."

Bloody hell. Prepare yourselves for the Sheffield Steelmen, Reading Monarchs, Manchester Lucky Seven and Tottenham... er... Cocks.

I read that Guardian piece as well. On a certain level, I understand Allam's point of view. He is a successful businessman and much of running a football club is business. Most of his business decisions as club owner have been sound up to this point. He doesn't strike me as a man who would run up big debts, for example.

But the part where I disagree with him is the notion that a club can be successfully run by an owner who sees all decisions as strictly informed by business principles, or that business should always be the first priority. More worrying still, he seems unwilling to listen to the fans.

A football club is much more than a business; it is a social phenomenon, and one with very strong local ties. Allam has completely miscalculated the extent to which the club can be successfully converted into an (allegedly) export-friendly product in spite of local resistance. If the people of Hull don't recognize or support the club, it doesn't matter what people in Asia think of it.

I think he has also vastly overestimated the benefits of shortening and simplifying the club's name as a means to attract fans and sponsorship. If you want to become a global footballing power, you need to buy top players and win trophies. It's a simple (and as hard) as that. All of the "branding" is based off success on the pitch first and foremost.

Allam is clearly an astute, hard-working man on a certain level - that's how he managed to acquire a fortune - but his ideas for "rebranding" football clubs are completely off the rails.
 
Pachy! That's awesome you went to the game. Atmosphere looked fun. As twietee pointed out, Klinsman is getting it done. Thanks for the export! I really think more than anything he's done on the field, he's changed the mentality of the team. Those guys believe they not only belong, they believe they can win. Never been that way before. He's challenged them and they've responded. Landon Donovan is example #1!
 
Not mentioned in the article, but divulged by the journalist via twitter - the ever thoughtful Allam has been thinking up names for other clubs unfortunate enough to be saddled with the common, lousy 'City' moniker.

He reckons 'Manchester Hunter' has a nice ring to it. No, seriously. Manchester Hunter.


It would be funny if it wasn't so dammed serious. I really worry even if he is eventually proved wrong with the name change it will be difficult to change back.

On a happier note the weekend PEC Zwolle travel to Ajax as Eredivisie leaders. The sports programs here have been making the status of PEC Zwolle obvious, Ron Jans has been interviewed first as befitting trainer of the Eredivisie leaders, he down played the favourite role. Frank de Boer was only given a few minutes, but he took it with a smile, he also has said that he does not underestimate PEC.
 
you aren't the first. there is one...

Yea I found the college football thread and I made it count. I wrote a freaking novel. I dont really watch much soccer. Just the world cup sometimes. If I had to choose a favorite team, it would be Liverpool just because the owner (John Henry) is also the owner of the Red Sox. Ive watched a few of their games. The last game Ive watched was the Man U/Man City game last year. I find watching soccer is like watching golf. I can watch it, but I WILL fall asleep.
 
That's only because 'Hull Tigers' isn't official yet. As a foreign chap you'll be rushing out to buy a shirt as soon as it happens. ;)

That's not so far fetched as you would think, more of these shirts are sold world wide than any other Dutch football shirt. The reason most give for purchase it looks good.

 
Yea I found the college football thread and I made it count. I wrote a freaking novel. I dont really watch much soccer. Just the world cup sometimes. If I had to choose a favorite team, it would be Liverpool just because the owner (John Henry) is also the owner of the Red Sox. Ive watched a few of their games. The last game Ive watched was the Man U/Man City game last year. I find watching soccer is like watching golf. I can watch it, but I WILL fall asleep.

ha!

baseball and american football do that to me.

if it weren't for NFL RedZone i couldn't tolerate the NFL any more.

you are located just down the road from me. Vandy fan or UT?
 
Wah, (North) Americans falling asleep in a tense 0-0 football match? Cliché!


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ha!

baseball and american football do that to me.

if it weren't for NFL RedZone i couldn't tolerate the NFL any more.

you are located just down the road from me. Vandy fan or UT?

Georgia fan actually. I have been ever since I can remember. Vandy is my #2 team. I have always hated UT. I went school at Lipscomb for a while, which isn't far from Vandy at all.
 
If Walcott wants to know why Wenger won't play him in the middle he should look back to today's game. We got away with that one tbh. Thanks to Atkinson and Rambo. I like Kos but he needs to get a grip. 6 penalties conceded. This isn't the Championship.

On another note, City still showing that they aren't a team but a group of individuals. And that gets worse without Kompany and Silva.
 
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Stoke can hold anyone to a draw, so I don't think it reflects too badly on Man City, though they still do seem less than the sum of their parts.

Surprised to see Newcastle beat Aston Villa. Villa's good form has not translated into points, they need to pick up some wins soon.

I'm really disappointed that Jozy Altidore's goal for Sunderland was disallowed.
 
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