Looks like another manager playing with matches. Malky Mackay.
He has little to lose. If Tan fires him he gets a big pile of money. I suppose that's why managers continue to put up with the constant knee-jerk sackings.
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He has little to lose. If Tan fires him he gets a big pile of money. I suppose that's why managers continue to put up with the constant knee-jerk sackings.
I'm a little confused here. Cardiff don't have bottomless transfer funds?
I was under the impression that, as with our proposed name change, Cardiff's switch to red shirts was supposed to bring in millions from the far east. Has that not happened, Mr Tan?
I was under the impression that, as with our proposed name change, Cardiff's switch to red shirts was supposed to bring in millions from the far east. Has that not happened, Mr Tan?
It's a two-step process, you see. You have to switch to red shirts AND change the club's name. Both Hull City and Cardiff are only halfway there. Cardiff Dragons has a great ring to it...
If the FA indulge Allam's folly, I'll bet you a shiny Pound that Tan will have his own name-change application made within two seasons.
No doubt, Jaffa. Hull City's case is going to set a precedent for the level of change a foreign owner is allowed to bring to a club. Tan is surely watching events with interest.
Actually, what I'm worried about is that if the name change is allowed and a precedent is set to allow name changes against the will of the fans then that'll open the door to things like Arsenal Emirates and Manchester Ethiad
You do fear that the change being inflicted on us would be the thin end of the wedge.
Allam's public stance is that he's doing this for commercial reasons, the likes of Tan would claim the same. Once a few of these have gone through it's not too many steps before a company buys or invests heavily in a club and wants to adapt its name for 'commercial and branding reasons' - and if the FA have allowed other clubs to change their names for commercial reasons then any attempt to block such a move would be severely weakened.
There's been talk that Red Bull are looking to buy a team in England (Leeds United was rumoured), one would imagine that the exposure their brand would receive through such a purchase would be very enticing for them. Red Bull have history in buying teams and stripping their identities, turning them into bland vehicles for their corporate brand. Give it ten years and we might be looking forward to Hull Tigers playing Red Bull Leeds in the Cup, with the winners looking forward to a tie against the Cardiff Dragons.
Ugh.
MLS provides a good example. After Red Bull bought the MetroStars in 2006 and changed their name to the Red Bulls, they invested quite a bit of money in the club, buying a number of expensive stars and building a new stadium. But the club is just so plastic. They don't actually play in New York, for starters (the stadium is in New Jersey), and all they've done is demonstrate that corporate teams rarely come off as anything other than fake.
It's a far cry from factory teams in the 19th/early 20th century, like Bethlehem Steel F.C. in the US. Those clubs were formed for the benefit of company employees above all else and drew big crowds. They grew out of recreation teams and were true grassroots clubs that ended up being officially sanctioned by large corporations. Conversely, modern corporate-owned teams - at least in the US and Europe - are nothing more than glorified advertisements calculated to swell corporate coffers. Allam and Tan have not built anything. They just bought a finished product and started tinkering with it in an attempt to make money.
Frank de Boer mentioned
Cheers,
OW
Well it's official Frank de Boer has been approached for the job, so far no word.
Popular belief is he would go if the MONEY is right.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/ajax/22152196/__TOTTENHAM_BENADERT_DE_BOER__.html
I don't see how Tan can convince him to resign. Mackay is obviously going to stick to his guns to the bitter end, and good on him. Tan is a clown and looks the part to boot.
Brendan Rogers was hardly sticking his neck out by suggesting that Tan has no idea what he's doing.
The final day of last season – when Hull City and Cardiff City celebrated automatic promotion together at the KC – seems a very, very long time ago now.
It's great to see the support Mackay's getting from fans, media and football types alike. I don't know who Tan's wanting in to replace him but whoever it is will lose my respect for taking the post.
The disturbing thing is the number of new owners who open their tenure with a press conference and declare with a smile 'I'm not really a football person' or 'I don't really understand the game' as if being clueless is a badge of honour. If you have no interest in the team or even the sport then what the hell are you doing?
I'd rather we just had owners who gave a stuff. There are plenty of foreign or foreign-born owners who do a decent job and are respectful towards the clubs they're custodians of, equally there are British folk who buy clubs and and run them into the ground either through incompetence or darker motives.
The disturbing thing is the number of new owners who open their tenure with a press conference and declare with a smile 'I'm not really a football person' or 'I don't really understand the game' as if being clueless is a badge of honour. If you have no interest in the team or even the sport then what the hell are you doing?
Liverpool lock Suarez up on a contract till 2018. I must admit I'm surprised, I thought it pretty likely he'd be gone in the summer (his value will never be higher).
Despite all his problems he's a world class talent, seems well-liked by his teammates, has the support of Liverpool fans, and (crucially) Brendan Rogers seems to have learned how to deal with him effectively. If he continues to play anything like the way he has recently I begin to think Liverpool are closer to the Champions League than I previously thought.
200,000 quid a week is a lot of money, though in the current market it's hard to image Suarez being paid much less than that.
There are too many tycoons out there (and some of them are English as well) who are so arrogant that they believe they are good at everything just because they've made a fortune running some business or other (or worse, because they inherited a massive fortune and are afflicted with a bad case of "affluenza").
These same tycoons jump into football ownership without the skills or experience they need to succeed - and worse, they do it with the expectation of turning a profit. When things begin to fall apart, they blame everyone but themselves and leave the club in ruins when they finally do bail out.
How many times must this situation repeat itself?
Despite all his problems he's a world class talent, seems well-liked by his teammates, has the support of Liverpool fans, and (crucially) Brendan Rogers seems to have learned how to deal with him effectively. If he continues to play anything like the way he has recently I begin to think Liverpool are closer to the Champions League than I previously thought.
200,000 quid a week is a lot of money, though in the current market it's hard to image Suarez being paid much less than that.
There are too many tycoons out there (and some of them are English as well) who are so arrogant that they believe they are good at everything just because they've made a fortune running some business or other (or worse, because they inherited a massive fortune and are afflicted with a bad case of "affluenza").
These same tycoons jump into football ownership without the skills or experience they need to succeed - and worse, they do it with the expectation of turning a profit. When things begin to fall apart, they blame everyone but themselves and leave the club in ruins when they finally do bail out.
How many times must this situation repeat itself?
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Good news! I genereally hate the aggregation of all the world class talents within the samo 4-5 clubs and specifically like what I just read from the hands of LordBlackadder. Cheers!
So, Jaffa, what's the scoop on Robbie Brady? He's listed at 50% likely to play…should I sub him in?
I think it may actually have a lot to do with the way Suarez feels he's been treated by Liverpool. The club stuck by him (too much, I'm afraid) when he made some very bad decisions in terms of his behavior, and Rogers seemed to know how to handle him when he wanted to leave in the summer. I think he has been convinced that Liverpool is a place where he will not only be well liked but also the central talent.
Good news! I genereally hate the aggregation of all the world class talents within the samo 4-5 clubs and specifically like what I just read from the hands of LordBlackadder. Cheers!
I think it may actually have a lot to do with the way Suarez feels he's been treated by Liverpool. The club stuck by him (too much, I'm afraid) when he made some very bad decisions in terms of his behavior, and Rogers seemed to know how to handle him when he wanted to leave in the summer. I think he has been convinced that Liverpool is a place where he will not only be well liked but also the central talent.
He's not looked right since his hernia op, there's a suspicion he was rushed back before he'd fully recovered.So, Jaffa, what's the scoop on Robbie Brady? He's listed at 50% likely to play should I sub him in?
Official team news though from this lunchtime's press gubbins is that Brady's out this weekend with a 'persistent groin problem'.
Thanks, subbed out
poor fella, I hope he can get himself back up to the form he had earlier this season.
Please not OGS.
Also linked with WBA.Lord Blackadder - Suarez; the player has a nice rise and the club will have a bumper pay day should he leave - Ronaldo, Bale, or seeing the contract out?
Cheers,
OW
With this being a World Cup year, all bets are off on what happens next. He could pick up a bad injury. Or he could excel at the WC and his value will rise even further. For Liverpool fans, the ideal scenario is obviously that he continues banging in goals in a Liverpool shirt till 2018.
The reality is Liverpool can not afford to buy a player as good as Suarez at the moment. So he might be that little extra bit of quality that is needed to get back into the Champions League.
Also, being out of the League Cup and European competitions is huge for Liverpool at the moment. It really proves how lame the Europa League is. Why play so many matches just to get knocked out by a bigger club that got parachuted in from the Champions League group stages?
More major trouble for Dutch Football.
KNVB Beker
JVC Cuijk 2-1 MVV
Tini Ruijs trainer has left MVV, he was attacked by his own sides supporters after a loss in the KNVB Beker to JVC Cuijk an amateur club. This was on Thursday night and threats were made against his family, he decided to leave on the Friday after talking with the players.
KNVB Beker
JVC Cuijk 2-1 MVV
Tini Ruijs trainer has left MVV, he was attacked by his own sides supporters after a loss in the KNVB Beker to JVC Cuijk an amateur club. This was on Thursday night and threats were made against his family, he decided to leave on the Friday after talking with the players.
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