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twietee,

Di Maria; I don't know. PSG seem to be most mentioned. With Robben and Ribery over 30, maybe Bayern are looking to get one or two players used to the team before the old hands leave; Hazard, Di Maria, and now Sterling have been linked.





Manchester United are clearly a much better team than they were last season. As for fortunate, they are no more fortunate than any of the other top 6 sides - you can point the stick at all of them.

If you want to continue with the insults, I'm happy to trade.

Much my balls they are 3 points better off in an even weaker league then last season

Remove the mods from these forums I would own you

By the way which part of Manchester are you from?
 
You just look at points, okay. :rolleyes:




Now that's arrogant, no hint of wit, disappointing.




You know very well we are all from Surrey.

yup the points, the 150 million spend, the longball to screech for most of the season, united are one of the poorest 4th place teams I have seen in a long time.

Gitsum:cool:
 
Goals have dried up for Arsenal. Too many midfielders. Need to go and get Benteke or Lacazette. That midfield is wasted on Giroud. Pass pass pass, try one-two, fail, rinse repeat cycle.

Congrats to Sunderland though...i think.

How many more times will you face relegation before you're truly relegated.

EDIT: Seems Hummels has turned down United.
 
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Funny how match winning/saving saves by Courtois and Hart are ignored.

Hart has been inconsistent at times; he takes two steps forward and one step back. I don't think Courtois has been ignored though - pretty much everyone has been massively impressed at the way he has slipped straight into the Chelsea squad with hardly any transition issues (something de Gea, for all his quality,struggled with).

Liverpool:

Important transfer window after their Spurs summer. Slight improvement on goals conceded but you'd think they'll be looking at competition for Mignolet and a CB. Obviously at least one 20 goals striker; seems Benteke is the latest link - a step up. Also a midfielder or two. Big players, change the manager. Then again, names is for tombstones; it's how a player performs on the pitch.

I just don't see a path to success. Whatever Liverpool do, the Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Arsenal can do just as well - PLUS they all have more money and their names carry more cachet at the moment (CL football if nothing else).
How does 'Pool compete with that? I just don't see it. The only way forward is to hit the jackpot with cheap underrated players that make it big AND for one of the teams above us to stumble massively. Nope, I don't see that happening either.

The Sterling to Man Utd rumors are of course utter BS - but as a rule Liverpool should never, ever sell a player to a direct rival (the Torres deal panned out well but that's an exception). If Sterling were to be sold to another English club I would consider it a demonstration of incompetence or lack of ambition on the part of the club suits. Our rivals only sell on worn-out or washed out players to other English clubs. Liverpool should follow the same policy.
 
I just don't see a path to success. Whatever Liverpool do, the Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Arsenal can do just as well - PLUS they all have more money and their names carry more cachet at the moment (CL football if nothing else).
How does 'Pool compete with that? I just don't see it. The only way forward is to hit the jackpot with cheap underrated players that make it big AND for one of the teams above us to stumble massively. Nope, I don't see that happening either.

The Sterling to Man Utd rumors are of course utter BS - but as a rule Liverpool should never, ever sell a player to a direct rival (the Torres deal panned out well but that's an exception). If Sterling were to be sold to another English club I would consider it a demonstration of incompetence or lack of ambition on the part of the club suits. Our rivals only sell on worn-out or washed out players to other English clubs. Liverpool should follow the same policy.

True words.

Sterling was (is- still a thing?) quite heavily linked with Bayern. They will spend quite some money this summer. Can see three big names arriving. Robben and Ribery old and more injury prone than ever (rumours abou ta fallout between Pep and Ribery, dunno abou tthat one; mysterious injury still - expected to come back after abou two days and now he won't see the season finale) Not for the benefit of the league but who cares, right? Would be interesting since I hardly remember any English player in Germany at all - Hargreaves being the exception.

Hummels, makes sense. I like that he stays although quite a lot (maybe the vocal part) of Dortmund fans would have preferred a big fat check by Utd. Think he comes back big time next season - he's kind of a player who needs along recovery time and the WC was exhausting.

Dortmund being heavily linked with midfielder Castro (qite a surprise here, and an extremely pleasing one at that!) and Geis (amazing young DM talent) and to an extent, but that's more than doubtful although I'd welcome it, Tielemans. CM is their weakest zone and it's good they adress that the right way.

Klopp: is he going to Liverpool? How is the standing of Rodgers right now?
 
If Sterling's agent is determined to get him out of Liverpool there is little the club can do but sell him outside England for as much money as possible.

Rogers has been given time and money, and the results (taking account of the Suarez factor) have not really met expectations. He seemed unable to drop Stevie G at a time when he should have been restricted to cameos, and his tactical flexibility at times looked more like indecision. I have to think that the club are at least considering Klopp but, like Pep Guardiola, Klopp might not be quite able to reproduce previous results in a new and unfamiliar setting.

Gerrard's was a magnificent player, but he is past his prime and filling a spot better used for another, younger player. His departure marks the end of an era. I wonder if I will ever see Liverpool win a champions league again in my lifetime.
 
I wonder if I will ever see Liverpool win a champions league again in my lifetime.

Agreed re Klopp, although I think he could fit to Pool the best atm.

Don't be that negative though! Look at BVB, Atletico and most recently Juve: the CL Finale is not impossible at all for an underdog if you got the right manager, team(-spirit), luck and a few outstanding players who can make the difference. Although winning is a different beast BVB and Atletico were really close to pull it off. Not sure about Juve because Barca has the best attack, is in-form and hungry again. But they're Italians so anything can happen.
 
Lord Blackadder,

A manager with pulling power is an option, as is bringing players through the system; tough, long process, and you still have to fend off other clubs.

Sterling:

It was paper wide so likely someone briefed - not some journo making it up. Manchester United doesn't make sense; if they have a genuine interest, they know the response in advance, and if it was for giggles, they must've known it would be short-lived. Sterling/agent trying to force another club's hand or boost their payday? The other clubs know Manchester United's chances. Maybe they did it so Sterling can say at least I didn't join United; also a possible motivation for Liverpool - we turned down that lot. Could be a source at the Club has acted individually. But as you say, BS.

twietee,

Germany; yep, Woodcock, Keegan and the Scots - Lambert and McInally - were some time ago.

Rumours re Otamendi increased before the Hummels news - supposedly the player has agreed but there is the small matter of the fee. :) Good for Dortmund if they can keep most of their top players and add to them.


I think you should see what happened two days ago in Polish Ekstraklasa League.

Absolute stunner!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XARivCVlX9s&app=desktop

:)

The goalscorer adjusts well to the final pass ending up behind him, his work caps the goal.

Cheers,
OW
 
A big-name manager could boost Liverpool's chances to a degree - but a big-name manager will also want to spend big time cash; while Liverpool are a rich club it simply serves to demonstrate that being rich isn't good enough - you have to be incredibly rich to compete nowadays, and Liverpool is just outside that elite group.

It's official: Sunderland are the worst team to avoid relegation in years. They survived thanks to a journeyman "troubleshooter" manager, but they don't deserve another season in the top division.
 
twietee,

I wish you luck this weekend, though if I am correct a lot would have to go terribly wrong for Hertha to go to 2nd league and there is less that has to go wrong for the others to leave 1st league...

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Interesting that the only Rival to Blatter left, is the prince (or sheik?) of Jordan.

There was a documentary on German TV lately, where Blatter said that sometimes God directly speaks to him. I am not even sure, if he was even trying to joke.
(Interesting, I googled it to give the correct quote and there is no one (paper) quoting this, despite one tweet by normal person. But I heard him say it in the documentary.)
 
twietee,

I wish you luck this weekend, though if I am correct a lot would have to go terribly wrong for Hertha to go to 2nd league and there is less that has to go wrong for the others to leave 1st league...

Thanks! Yea, looks good but wasn't really necessary since we played quite ok the last games but failed to land any 3pters. Looking forward to the next saison since Dardai gives some new hope and maybe they can land some good transfers.

Speaking of transfers, latest rumour has it that Gündogan leaves for 30mil € to Barca in Jan 2016. Apparently Barca can sign players despite the ban, they're only not allowed to 'appear' this year - so maybe a loan til Jan to BVB is in play. Dunno, looks like a lot of money so good for Dortmund. Hope he recovers and gets back into his '13 groove - happy for him if it's true as he really wants to play in Barcelona.
 
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