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The 2014-2015 NCAA Football Season Thread

I thoroughly enjoyed the game and the first CFP.

In a dream world hypothetical, I'd take TCU in over FSU and bet $5 it's an OSU-TCU final. Definitely the two best teams down the stretch, but there's no way you leave an undefeated defending champ out of the top 4.
 
einmusiker said:
It bothers me that these schools in certain states seem to think it's just fine to treat these players as professional athletes... meanwhile the thousands of students that go to school to you know... actually study academics... are all but ignored in many respects
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People don't go to stadiums to watch students study. While I agree their is a level of inequity, its not one set of schools that does it, but the entire NCAA system.

Still, as a fan, I enjoy watching the college football a lot more then the NFL
 
maflynn said:
People don't go to stadiums to watch students study. While I agree their is a level of inequity, its not one set of schools that does it, but the entire NCAA system.

Still, as a fan, I enjoy watching the college football a lot more then the NFL
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Seems like you're suggesting schools need big sports programs for the economic benefits? Harvard to name but one, seems to do just fine without it

Anyway, I didn't want to get political in this thread but here goes. I'm mainly referring to bible belt states such as Arkansas Alabama Mississippi, that don't have professional football teams but WORSHIP their publicly funded state football programs. Many of the same people in these states are the foundation of the tea party that cries and moans about social welfare and big government. Meanwhile they are the poorest states and benefit the most from such programs. It's the hypocrisy I despise.
 
einmusiker said:
Seems like you're suggesting schools need big sports programs for the economic benefits? Harvard to name but one, seems to do just fine without it

Anyway, I didn't want to get political in this thread but here goes. I'm mainly referring to bible belt states such as Arkansas Alabama Mississippi, that don't have professional football teams but WORSHIP their publicly funded state football programs. Many of the same people in these states are the foundation of the tea party that cries and moans about social welfare and big government. Meanwhile they are the poorest states and benefit the most from such programs. It's the hypocrisy I despise.
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Idiots love their sports above all else. Football - college and NFL - is the modern day equivalent to the Roman gladiatorial games.

I'm a sports fan, but lately I've really pushed downplaying the importance I place on sports in my life. Outside of January 1, I probably watched a handful of games in full. I tried to be productive and avoid NFL Sundays and watch a tiny percentage of the hockey I used to watch as recent as last year. You can be so much more productive when you don't spend all day Saturday and Sunday watching football.
 
einmusiker said:
Seems like you're suggesting schools need big sports programs for the economic benefits? Harvard to name but one, seems to do just fine without it

Anyway, I didn't want to get political in this thread but here goes. I'm mainly referring to bible belt states such as Arkansas Alabama Mississippi, that don't have professional football teams but WORSHIP their publicly funded state football programs. Many of the same people in these states are the foundation of the tea party that cries and moans about social welfare and big government. Meanwhile they are the poorest states and benefit the most from such programs. It's the hypocrisy I despise.
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I agree, lets leave the PRSI out of this thread, but I will say that people won't pay to see students study, pure and simple, nothing more to read into my statement other then that sports is a popular and enjoyable part of college.
 
einmusiker said:
It bothers me that these schools in certain states seem to think it's just fine to treat these players as professional athletes... meanwhile the thousands of students that go to school to you know... actually study academics... are all but ignored in many respects
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aah.

and it is only the SEC that does that ... riiii-iight.

for the record, that bothers me too.
 
einmusiker said:
It bothers me that these schools in certain states seem to think it's just fine to treat these players as professional athletes... meanwhile the thousands of students that go to school to you know... actually study academics... are all but ignored in many respects
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Can't this pretty much be said about any team that has a good football program? USC comes to mind and they are in California.

einmusiker said:
Seems like you're suggesting schools need big sports programs for the economic benefits? Harvard to name but one, seems to do just fine without it

Anyway, I didn't want to get political in this thread but here goes. I'm mainly referring to bible belt states such as Arkansas Alabama Mississippi, that don't have professional football teams but WORSHIP their publicly funded state football programs. Many of the same people in these states are the foundation of the tea party that cries and moans about social welfare and big government. Meanwhile they are the poorest states and benefit the most from such programs. It's the hypocrisy I despise.
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I think you forgot Texas and Oklahoma, oh and Michigan and Ohio.

I think this is far larger than just the schools in the SEC like you are suggesting. Also what about the basketball programs at some schools? Duke, Georgetown, or Kentucky anyone?
 
rhett7660 said:
Can't this pretty much be said about any team that has a good football program? USC comes to mind and they are in California.



I think you forgot Texas and Oklahoma, oh and Michigan and Ohio.

I think this is far larger than just the schools in the SEC like you are suggesting. Also what about the basketball programs at some schools? Duke, Georgetown, or Kentucky anyone?
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Again Michigan has FANTASTIC academics. It's the schools that seem to all but ignore academics but pour money into sports programs that annoy me
 
einmusiker said:
Again Michigan has FANTASTIC academics. It's the schools that seem to all but ignore academics but pour money into sports programs that annoy me
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But do you have to maintain that gpa to be on the team.....? I only know a handful that have stated what there players must maintain in order to stay on the team. Most are 2.0, there are a few, Standford and Notre Dame come to mind where you have to maintain upper three's in order to play.

But all of this is neither here nor there. I have a feeling it is more than just the SEC that has this type of mentality.
 
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But do you have to maintain that gpa to be on the team.....? I only know a handful that have stated what there players must maintain in order to stay on the team. Most are 2.0, there are a few, Standford and Notre Dame come to mind where you have to maintain upper three's in order to play.

But all of this is neither here nor there. I have a feeling it is more than just the SEC that has this type of mentality.
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Im not really talking about the academic standards for the players. I'm referring to the entire university
 
einmusiker said:
Im not really talking about the academic standards for the players. I'm referring to the entire university
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i am pretty sure that most schools have very high standards... until it comes to some borderline lunkheaded retard that can run fast, jump high, and throw long... then they do what they can to get them in.

every now and then you'll hear a coach say, "well, he just didn't meat our academic standards...", and maybe they didn't, or, maybe, they just went somewhere else. take that meaning for what you want.

true, sometimes they(schools/coaches) insist on a player going to JuCo to get their grades up and some more experience.

i think the can of worms you're trying to open isn't going to be resolved by any of us. furthermore, i think you'd be surprised by what your team, any of ours, let slide and or cover up.

this is just like "deflate gate". you think the pats are the only team who try to sneak in an advantage? they just happened to be one of four teams playing last week. pretty easy to detect when your odds are 1/4. bck in the day teams used to water down the field when they knew they were playing a really fast team. it happened to the raiders more than once. or they let their artificial field freeze over. i'm looking at you chuck knoll & 1970' steelers...

in a nutshell, they all have high standards. do they all go by them...? who of us can say for sure?
 
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Not the universities I mentioned above
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Nothing like painting everything with the same broad brush, eh? Yup, the University of Alabama, like other schools in SEC red states, all but ignores academics (your words). Truth is, although Bama isn't in the highest tier, I can tell you based on experience with my own kids and many other current students and graduates that academic performance for non-athletes definitely counts.

What I do decry is the way that some student athletes are handled, especially when they're given an academic pass in return for performance on the field. But that practice is hardly limited to SEC schools.
 
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