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The 2022-2023 Football Thread
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He’s a class player. Arsenal don’t have as many internationals warming their bench as Liverpool! 🤗Surely injuries don’t effect a ‘big’ team’s performance though…
Gutted we couldn’t find the back of the net. We had a boat load of chances. But then again I really wasn’t expecting anything out of the game.
David De Gea had one of his Beast Mode games today, and United really needed it in the second half. Nevertheless, United's defense played quite well, it's just the midfield couldn't maintain control in the second half. I'm actually looking forward to Bruno sitting out his suspension, as most of his passes late in the match only found West Ham players in dangerous positions.
They only look like dangerous positions. We managed to never quite convert.
I’m certainly not the sort of newcastle fan who will be wearing a tea towel on my head or buying a green and white away shirt. I know what the owners are but I’m also pretty pragmatic this is football now if it wasn’t us it would have been someone else.
I work for a company that supplies arms for the IDF to drop bombs in the West Bank and served twice in Afghanistan so I don’t feel like I can be overly judgmental either.
However the idea the club has sold it soul just means you weren’t paying attention. The club had no soul, everything had been gutted out of it under the previous ownership.
Also I’m not sure how you can claim it’s a bottomless amount of money. We’re buying players like Chris wood and Matt target not Messi and Foden. The cartel have already fixed the system so we can’t do what they’ve already done.
I tend to agree with this.
You may not always agree with where the money is coming from or the amount that's being splashed, but Toon have been fairly realistic with their first round of new recruits.
The Greedy Six have made sure that FFP doesn't really apply to them and their ilk. The new usurpers are likely to have to pay through the nose for really top talent, so are doing well with what they have bought - although it's disappointing to see fellow Kiwi Chris Wood not really making much of an impact.
I think he has made an impact. We stayed in the league and although he was light on goals he did a lot of defensive work which is still very important.
He’s a sort of Hesky type where the work goes unnoticed because he’s not scoring every week.
His biggest issue is the price tag £25m was massive overs for him and everyone knew that. The thing is newcastle had to get a PL proven striker and that’s what it cost to do so. Some people forget the position we were in and how we HAD to get cover in for Wilson.
Thing is £25 million is not all that much these days. We paid double that for Haller which worked out about a million a goal before we sold him at a 50% loss.
Actually that's true.
25m is probably about the right price for a Wood-level player.
Saints have spent slightly less on moderately more prolific strikers from the Championship and France, so to get a Premier League striker who at one time was scoring close to 20 goals a season, wasn't actually bad money.
And I guess that sort of proves the point - for all the ill-gotten money that Toon have nowadays, they didn't immediately go out and get a 100m striker - they could have landed someone for that kind of money, but they have played it fairly safe to date.
I dare say that the spending will come - and when it does, most won't bat an eyelid, as the eye-watering sums that are being spent by clubs around the world have made a lot of people quite immune to being shocked these days.
He’s at the 30 mark age wise and wasn’t in form so I do think it was overs personally but I think the club had to pay it and don’t think it was an awful signing.
I don’t think we could have signed a 100m striker. The club isn’t in the position to support that financially and the Saudis can only pour so much money in. It would have destroyed the wage structure when that has to evolve along with the clubs commercial evolution.
I don’t think many non newcastle fans really understand how hollowed out the club/business was after Mike Ashley.
It’s just not possible to do what Man City did anymore. You only have to look at the mess Everton are in to see that.
And Manchester City - even after Pep was appointed manager - were not able to do this immediately, or achieve immediate success.
Anyway, there is a distinction to be drawn between intelligent purchases, (and the purchase of a 100m striker would not have worked this season) purchases which neither unbalance the club (nor the wage structure) - which Newcastle have done, that is not my complaint and nor is it my concern - - and the fact that they will have bottomless resources - from a morally dubious source - to draw upon over the coming seasons.
But they don’t have bottomless resources that’s my point, those days have gone and the teams at the top have drawn up the drawbridge.
I have little doubt that Newcastle will join "the teams at the top" - in every sense of those words - within a season or two.
Sadly I agree with you. But we can live in hope that it will be at the expense of one of the greedy six.
How is that going to occur though? That gulf in finances can’t be bridged in such a time. I would love to see it happen but just saying it doesn’t make it so.
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No wonder they wanted to form their own league. Some bang average teams with a hell of a lot of debt amongst them.
Generally, to bring about some sort of planned change in a football team, one (that is, run by a manager with focus, a coherent vision, firm backing from the owners, and yes, preferably from owners possessing deep pockets or an open cheque-book) needs around two seasons, that is, four transfer windows, to achieve some semblance of what one would like to see achieved.
One transfer window will not be sufficient to obtain anything like a full picture of how the new Newcastle will look, act and perform on the pitch.
Moreover, this is an immensely wealthy state, and has now become one interested in "soft power projection", and some of this "soft power projection" will be expressed through the ownership of Newcastle, which is something that I, personally, deplore, for this is a state with an appalling record on human rights.
However, by the time two years have elapsed, (four or five transfer windows), I would expect to see a rather different Newcastle, in fact, an unrecognizable Newcastle, one gradually transformed - with, yes, vast sums of money - into serious title contenders.
Last season, the priority was to secure safety and avoid relegation. This season, I will be surprised if Newcastle do not claim a place in Europe, although they may not yet be good enough to challenge for a CL spot.
Not a greedy six club in sight.
Preston North End: the original Invincibles!
You’re still not giving me an answer on how the gap is closed.
Saudi have all the money but no means to get it in to the club.
I don’t disagree the club is changing and will be unrecognisable but there’s only so much you can do under the current rules. It’s not possible to do what Chelsea and City did. Two years won’t be enough, you’re probably looking at closer to 10 in the current climate.
Why won’t it? If you break the financial regulations don’t they just fine you?
And ban you from European competitions theoretically. You can guarantee the media would kick up a **** fight if we did it.
The other clubs already got the sponsorship rules changed to disadvantage us.