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The 2022-2023 Football Thread
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Get in, Forest and Soton! The magic of the (Carabao) Cup in effect.
Yeah, that Joao Felix loan is a headscratcher. I assume the new contract and no buyout clause means Diego Simeone is definitely leaving Atletico. I feel like he's not what Chelsea really needs — I think the right manager and the right team setup can really unlock his talent, but it's probably not this particular situation. Will be interesting to see how this works out.
Yeah, that Joao Felix loan is a headscratcher. I assume the new contract and no buyout clause means Diego Simeone is definitely leaving Atletico. I feel like he's not what Chelsea really needs — I think the right manager and the right team setup can really unlock his talent, but it's probably not this particular situation. Will be interesting to see how this works out.
Maybe City's depth isn't as extensive as initially thought. Outside of the forward line anyway.
Someone was mentioning that City have become predictable in their play since Haaland joined. It's basically pass to KDB, who runs to the lines, and tries to find Haaland or a winger. Wingers run forward then cut back into midfield. When desperate sets in everyone predictably tries to find Haaland. Rinse and repeat.
Whereas previously it was runners stretching defences, intricate passing, and goals from all over the pitch.
There's also the argument that Kane would've been a better forward for City than Haaland, since he is actually good on the ball and more well rounded. Granted Haaland has time to improve.
Good on Soton and Forest, thought they were catching too much flack despite the transitions both clubs are going through.
Someone was mentioning that City have become predictable in their play since Haaland joined. It's basically pass to KDB, who runs to the lines, and tries to find Haaland or a winger. Wingers run forward then cut back into midfield. When desperate sets in everyone predictably tries to find Haaland. Rinse and repeat.
Whereas previously it was runners stretching defences, intricate passing, and goals from all over the pitch.
There's also the argument that Kane would've been a better forward for City than Haaland, since he is actually good on the ball and more well rounded. Granted Haaland has time to improve.
Good on Soton and Forest, thought they were catching too much flack despite the transitions both clubs are going through.
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Well done to Southampton and Forrest. May your cup runs prove a welcome distraction to the league so West Ham can stay above you (just!)
Perhaps, but I cannot see Pep Guardiola (or City) deliberately throwing away any opportunity to claim a trophy.
Besides, a defeat, any defeat, especially to a (much) lower ranked team, somehow eats away at that sense of implacable power that successful teams seek to cultivate, at that myth that it is not possible to inflict a defeat on them, at the idea that they cannot ever lose a game.
Once they are beaten, defeated, it becomes easier for everyone else to imagine that it is possible to defeat them; such a defeat cannot but give some degree of confidence to everyone other team in the division, and, it isn't as though this was a second string team sent out by Manchester City; it wasn't.
I hear what you are saying but notice this, City have not lost to any relegation or close to relegation team this season so far. They were fighting for all trophies just like Liverpool was last year and we all know what happened there. I have no doubt Pep Guardiola is thinking about that and not wanting his team to suffer the same fate. City face a tough game on saturday against a resurgent Man United. He knows if he want's to win the league he needs less games. Now here is a thought, is City going to go out of the Champions league because it would mean less games and thus more focus on the league.
City deliberately exit the Champions League early?
No.
This is the one trophy that Pep Guardiola has not won (unlike a stretched Liverpool, who have been CL finalists three times under Klopp, and have actually won it once during that time).
Guardiola has yet to win the Champions League, and will not be considered a truly "great" manager until he achieves this; given a choice between winning the Champions League or the Premier League, I have little doubt which of the two titles he would choose.
Pep was hired explicitly to win the Champions League. His abject, hilarious (to everyone but Man City fans) failure to do so thus far with such a stacked squad, built with towering mountains of cash, has only increased the hunger of the ownership and fans for success in Europe. If Man City ever deliberately take their foot off the gas in any competition it won't be that one.
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Totally agree. I can’t see ANY team throwing away a CL trophy.
Joao Felix with a straight red on his Chelsea debut. Hilarious.
When it rains it pours for Chelsea currently. Willian scores the opener and then Felix sees Red. That also means he misses the next 3 games. You can't make this stuff up.
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This is maybe his style of play which never got him red carded before. Now he's in the premiership he does the same thing because that is what he is used to but get's him red carded.
I believe there is only 12-13 games to go in the premiership so yeah what a start, get's red carded and misses the next 3 games. With now missing the next 3 games turns out this was not a good investment for Chelsea. They probably now wishing they had let Man United get the player lol
No, because of the interruption to the season caused by the World Cup, the timetable is quite a bit further behind that would normally have been the case at this time of the year (or season).
As of now, most teams have played either 17 or 18 games; however, there are 38 games in the season, which means that we are - only now - approaching the half way stage. Thus, most teams have still to play around 20, or 21, games, and not 12-13, which would have been the more usual number in mid January had the interruption of the season's timetable by the World Cup not occurred.
Actually, yes, I am, I must admit.
Not that I am a fan of Manchester United, (you dislike the "greedy six", but I have disliked Manchester United ever since they arrogantly chose not to contest for the FA Cup and withdrew from the competition for the 1999-2000 season), but, I will confess that it is wonderful to see City defeated, and not just because it benefits Arsenal, but also, because it cheers me no end to see a club with this model of state ownership (and the bottomless resources they have been able to draw upon, as a consequence) defeated.
And the manner of United's victory was impressive.
wow that score shocked me, I need to see the replay
liverpool was supposed to win the title this year then join UEFA
those are far away now.
and:
I was supporting Manchester United? somehow,
maybe the 2 HomePod mini speakers' sound from Old Trafford
overwhelmingly took control of my brain
or that first United goal was a real onside goal
I even verbally stated that that goal was"onsides".
too bad I'm getting lousy rTV eception for the BRE-BOU match
sorry Pep~
Moyes needs to go, and the board need to act now. He seems to have lost even his most faithful players. Get Dyche in or Pochettino. The quality is there the selection, tactics, and energy aren't.
Ditto for Lampard at Everton.
On the flip side, credit to Forest for sticking with Cooper who seems to be turning things around.
Ditto for Lampard at Everton.
On the flip side, credit to Forest for sticking with Cooper who seems to be turning things around.
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Brighton are a good team, but 'Pool are suffering badly from an old midfield and injuries, and it is surely impacting the mood in the squad now too. The season is almost certainly over now barring an astonishing run in the CL. 'The race for fourth' doesn't get my pulse racing. More important than that is whether this team gets rebuilt - or whether this era (Klopp, FSG, Hendo & other champion players) is really coming to an end.
I'd personally give Moyes time, but Lampard has always been out of his depth at Everton.
I'd personally give Moyes time, but Lampard has always been out of his depth at Everton.
Weird with three established PL clubs making up the relegation spots. The promoted teams are all doing remarkably well with different tactics.
As for Moyes I think he’ll get another game or two to pick things up. You don’t go from being a good manager to a bad one overnight.
As for Moyes I think he’ll get another game or two to pick things up. You don’t go from being a good manager to a bad one overnight.
Looks like Mudryk is going to Chelsea. €100m. Arsenal offered €95m but Chelsea came in. Shaktar get what they've been angling for, going as far as making an official statement to seal it.
Let's not forget Brentford tried to sign him for £27m in the summer.
Meanwhile Chelsea have now spent around €450m in 6 months wowza.
Let's not forget Brentford tried to sign him for £27m in the summer.
Meanwhile Chelsea have now spent around €450m in 6 months wowza.
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