It’s a major domestic trophy in comparison to the championship or the FA trophy.
We all know it’s the least of the major trophies. Why does it bother you? It’s a story that’s going to sell adverts, that’s what the media is about.
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It’s a major domestic trophy in comparison to the championship or the FA trophy.
We all know it’s the least of the major trophies. Why does it bother you? It’s a story that’s going to sell adverts, that’s what the media is about.
I think you people have missed the point of my post. The point is the UK media, clubs and UK football fans have not cared about the EFL cup for decades and this lack of caring by clubs and fans got the media calling the EFL cup the 'Mickey Mouse' cup because of clubs and fans calling it a silly competition due it not offering any serious entry level into Europe, only low level into Europe which clubs were not interested in because all they wanted was the champions league. Go through past years of posts in the other football threads and you will see many of us dismissing the EFL cup in conversations because we viewed it as a non-relevant trophy. But now Newcastle and and English manager has won the trophy suddenly the EFL cup has become a 'major trophy'.
It in the context of things, the 70 year history thing is irrelevant because for decades us fans have referred to the EFL cup as the 'Mickey mouse' cup. Newcastle winning the EFL cup does not make the trophy suddenly become a 'major trophy'. If you lot think differently then I would like to hear your reasons as to why?
The thing is, I am not a hypocrite. I have never rated the EFL cup, I have never supported it as a 'major' trophy. I still see it as the 'Mickey Mouse' cup as it has been affectively known as and therefore I do not sing from the roof tops when the team I chose to support on the day wins it (my team Gillingham is never going win it hence why as a neutral I pick a team to support on the day, in this case it was Liverpool)
It in the context of things, the 70 year history thing is irrelevant because for decades us fans have referred to the EFL cup as the 'Mickey mouse' cup. Newcastle winning the EFL cup does not make the trophy suddenly become a 'major trophy'. If you lot think differently then I would like to hear your reasons as to why?
The thing is, I am not a hypocrite. I have never rated the EFL cup, I have never supported it as a 'major' trophy. I still see it as the 'Mickey Mouse' cup as it has been affectively known as and therefore I do not sing from the roof tops when the team I chose to support on the day wins it (my team Gillingham is never going win it hence why as a neutral I pick a team to support on the day, in this case it was Liverpool)
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I think the importance of the league cup very much depends on the club you support. Is it a priority for United, City or Arsenal? Absolutely not.
But for many clubs it matters because they could (or in Newcastle’s case have) win it.
At the start of the season there are maybe 4 clubs that could win the league. Another 6 who could qualify for one of the European competitions.
Winning a cup is not only a trophy, but for many a way into Europe that can’t get there any other way.
Thanks. I’ll take a look. He got a standing ovation at the London Stadium last Monday when I was there.Michail Antonio: I was close to dying in car crash, says West Ham forward
In an exclusive interview with the BBC, West Ham forward Michail Antonio reflects on his near-fatal car crash in December.
I watch all the Sunday inter Miami matches on it. They still are undefeated and I watched Messi do the close goals and he did all of them.
The Carabao Cup is both important and not important depending on where you are as a player, manager, or club.
For Newcastle its the first trophy they have won in 7 decades. Given their history of turmoil, you can forgive their excitement.
It was also Pep's first trophy on English soil.
For me its always been a cup that ends trophy droughts, acts as a stepping stone trophy, or helps keep winning numbers up for certain clubs
Whilst i'm not a fan of Newcastle i respect what it means to their fanbase and the city. (Newcastle is one of the rare one city one club situations)
As for the british media, they overhype everything which is why the rest of the world views them with disdain. They make a meal of every banal thing to shift papers (or clicks nowadays). It used to be worse when we only had print .
Its also no secret that the media has its favourites when it comes to football teams and managers. Newcastle and Howe being one of them.
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Honestly I don’t understand the point of your post.
Why do you care if the media have back flipped on an opinion they have held (they do this daily) the media don’t get to decide what’s major or what’s minor.
In an era of football that has become more and more dominated by a self anointed few big clubs I don’t understand why fans want to perpetuate that idea even more.
Plenty of people were trying to call West Ham tin pot for celebrating their conference win, but not me. A trophy is a trophy. If clubs outside the big 6 can’t take some joy out of winning one are we just supposed to make up the numbers and enjoy our lot?
Also the fact Newcastle haven’t won anything for so long is totally relevant that’s the entire story it changes the entire dynamic of that final over say Liverpool vs City.
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Is this any different to anywhere else in the world? Or is British media more pervasive in to other countries than other countries media are elsewhere.
I’m a Brit who has lived in Australia for ten years and I don’t think the British media overhype anymore than the Aussie media do.
Ange was the second coming of Sir Alex 18 months ago.
Oscar Piastri the next Schumacher.
And they talk about AFL as if anyone outside of a few Aussie states cares.
What I will say is the British media are very good and building people up to tear them down.
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As a West Ham fan I can say winning the ECL trophy mattered. First time we have won anything in a long time (not as long as Newcastle though!).
I agree the media like to build people up (usually when they are young and showing signs of brilliance), then tear them down when they don’t turn out to be the next Messi.
Also all media (not just sports or British) is just looking for engagement. That’s how they earn there money now it’s online. So write something controversial you’ll get more engagement that writing something factual.
I know no one values the credibility of the Daily Mail newspaper but there is an interesting article from one of it's sports journalists and that is according to inside sources at Sky, Sky has allegedly told it's football presenters/pundits not to react towards the outcome of the case against Man City because apparently the case against City has now been concluded and the result of the case is to be announced very very soon.
This has got the tongues wagging in the football fan community with many saying that due to what Sky has allegedly done it implies that City will be found not guilty on many or all of the charges but if found guilty of some of them, they will be given light punishment.
This has got the tongues wagging in the football fan community with many saying that due to what Sky has allegedly done it implies that City will be found not guilty on many or all of the charges but if found guilty of some of them, they will be given light punishment.
I can be counted among those people who (absolutely, fervently, passionately) do "not value" the (dire reporting of) Daily Mail, and I place not just little, but no credibility whatsoever, in anything they write.
That publication is a sensationalist, lying waste of space, paper and pixels.
I’ve had a nice football day today.
Watched 2 UEFA Nations league quarter final games earlier. Did not get Scotland Greece relegation/promotion game today here (US), but have a great Scottish friend that flew to that game in Athens with his son, lots of “live” texts from him during game!
And tonight, watching USA Panama. And after that, will watch Mexico Canada. CONCACAF nations league semifinals.
I feel “split” between both sides of the Pond today. (I lived and worked 20 years in Scotland and Norway, lots of great memories. Coffee during UEFA earlier, Bourbon tonight for CONCACAF.
Watched 2 UEFA Nations league quarter final games earlier. Did not get Scotland Greece relegation/promotion game today here (US), but have a great Scottish friend that flew to that game in Athens with his son, lots of “live” texts from him during game!
And tonight, watching USA Panama. And after that, will watch Mexico Canada. CONCACAF nations league semifinals.
I feel “split” between both sides of the Pond today. (I lived and worked 20 years in Scotland and Norway, lots of great memories. Coffee during UEFA earlier, Bourbon tonight for CONCACAF.
oh dear USA (FIFA ranking 16), how embarrassing, losing 1-0 to minnows Panama (FIFA ranking 36) in the CONCAF semi final. USA being the current holders and also having won the competition 3 times in a row.
That is almost equivalent to when minnows Iceland beat the all power England (lol) 2-1 in the last 16 of the men's 2016 UEFA European Championship and thus knocking them out of the competition. It was an extremely embarrassing situation for the men's England team.
That is almost equivalent to when minnows Iceland beat the all power England (lol) 2-1 in the last 16 of the men's 2016 UEFA European Championship and thus knocking them out of the competition. It was an extremely embarrassing situation for the men's England team.
You can tell we’re a big deal when people feel the need to shoe horn us in to totally unrelated situations.
Rent free.
There is an enormous difference between Slovenia and Slovakia as countries, even if the result after a match played by their respective football teams ends in a scoreless draw.
I know first hand, just the planet or media does not anymore.
Your post did not reflect that.
Even as an attempt at "humour" it didn't work, not least because of the topic of the thread.
Football (soccer) matters in Europe (if not in the US), and trust me, we do know the difference between individual countries even if it may appear (to others) that countries that are alphabetically adjacent, and geographically not all that distant (Iran, Iraq, anyone?) can be confused and mistaken for one another.
That is no defence.
And, moreover, that is no reason to allow "the planet" or "the media" to influence what you write.
I'm European, (and, at that, a European who is - personally (and professionally) more than acquainted with both Central/Eastern Europe and the Balkans), and - in Europe - anyone who attempts to argues that there is no difference between Slovakia and Slovenia would be considered.......somewhat uneducated.
What?
most people(even those with college degrees) don't know these countries exists.
I just posted a "tongue in cheek" comment that went way overboard by you.
as well announcing that I really cared about the match (both ties) which no one else really did.
to claim that I am un-educated was silly and offensive.
move on!
or
block me because him not typing things plastic but creative.
Ljubljana is a very nice city, very worthy of a visit. And so is Bratislava.
I was there in 1992 before all heck broke out east of the nation!
what impressed me the most was the river side cafe's which are incredible.
as there was always an atmosphere of freedom and cash since the 1800s
the people are friendly but stern I noticed as well.
im happy the club advanced or stayed in the B group, but are not up to that level of the elite nations.
Oblak is a incredible keeper who can win a surprise match against any nation tho.
they do have one of the best athletes ever now cycling around Europe who is a class person as well.
well enjoy the matches today everyone!