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Come on score for fudge sakes #COYG
There are days when we are utterly - almost comically - unable to score even if equipped with metal detectors, or other devices for identifying the location of the goal mouth of our opponents.
I know its Dyche ball, but It doesn't seem like Arsenal are interested in seizing opportunities to give themselves a significant advantage.
This is not a question of "not interested", but of simple goal scoring competence, the basic ability to put the ball in the net in order to score a goal. Unfortunately, this is an area where Arsenal have been rather erratic, in recent seasons.

And I am not remotely interested in listening to Arteta grumbling, howling, or complaining about a penalty that wasn't awarded (though granted, a number have indeed been awarded for considerably less) when we had several clear chances to score and failed to convert any of them. That is on us.
Should be 12pts clear but can't hit a barn door at the moment.
Agreed.
Dropping points against bottom teams cost us last season.
Well said.
Its happening again. Mikel got the team selection wrong today.
Agreed.

And not for the first time in such circumstances.
I’m not angry with Arsenal for giving points to our relegation rivals…..just disappointed!
Well, I am annoyed, rather than disappointed (but well done to Forest).
Very much so. 7 points is nothing.
True, alas.
We should be home and dry on the table, and the boys need to seriously look at themselves. Arteta got the starting lineup wrong.
Not for the first time.
Should've started Trossard, Saka, Jesus. And then bring on Martinelli and Madueke once the Forrest defenders were tiring. If you're gonna start Gyokeres then at least play a lot of balls in behind.
Agreed.

And I have yet to be convinced by Gyokeres.
Man i hate facing Dyche teams. Ever so predictable. Exhausting to watch, let alone play against.
I can't fault Dyche; this is his task, and he does his job well.

However, it is well past time - not to mention with the pretty impressive squad currently at our disposal - that we learned how to cope with, and deal with, a team managed by Dyche.
And its gonna be worse against Inter...

If we fail to win this league then the blame will lie squarely with Arteta and the players
Again, agreed.
 
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To be fair, while I don't necessarily believe there was any conspiracy in favor of Morocco, as has been alleged, I think Senegal deserved to win the final. So despite their big walk-off not sitting well with me, I get why they felt cheated at the time.

And Panenkas are always box office - whether they succeed or fail.
 
Sorry, are you talking about AFCON or the Premier League!
Like the Prem, but turned up to 11. 🤣

In all seriousness, tournament football can be very cagey, and AFCON is often the cagiest. The crowds are fantastic, great atmosphere in the stands generally speaking. But the on-pitch product is often both dull and yet also totally chaotic.
 
Bodo where very good. Thats 2 successive games where City have been played off the park.

Spurs continuing their confounding run in the UCL albeit Dortmund down to 10 men
 
Looks like job done. Hopefully Gyok takes confidence from his goal.
Paradoxically, I think that the somewhat slower pace of Champions League football suits Gyokeres better than the faster - at times, almost frenetic - pace of the Premier League.

Thus, I am not so sure that this is solely (or mainly) a confidence issue, and, equally, therefore, I am also not so sure that this will lead to a transformation in his footballing fortunes in domestic competitions.

Nevertheless, an excellent victory, doubtless made even sweeter when memories of last year are taken into account.
 
Sporting played Gyokeres usually with balls launched behind of him where he could physically (speed and strenght) overpower the defense. I don't know Arsenal that well but that doesn't seems to be their style.
In fact when Amorim left the (very short lived) next manager tried to use him in a more conventional style and his numbers suffered. It wasn't only that, the team had been set for 343 and nothing really worked but you could see how uncomfortable he was.
Btw Sporting beat PSG yesterday. Great showing.
To see how uneven things are Sporting used a player whose cost was 300k euros or in EPL money, 0.26 million pounds.
 
Sporting played Gyokeres usually with balls launched behind of him where he could physically (speed and strenght) overpower the defense. I don't know Arsenal that well but that doesn't seems to be their style.
In fact when Amorim left the (very short lived) next manager tried to use him in a more conventional style and his numbers suffered. It wasn't only that, the team had been set for 343 and nothing really worked but you could see how uncomfortable he was.
Btw Sporting beat PSG yesterday. Great showing.
To see how uneven things are Sporting used a player whose cost was 300k euros or in EPL money, 0.26 million pounds.
Well, yes.

However, current Manchester City and Erling Haaland notwithstanding, (besides, in his earlier incarnations as City's manager, Pep Guardiola didn't promote the use of such a striker favouring system), top teams don't usually choose to construct their team around a striker.

Rather, in the best teams, a star striker is simply a part of the team, a player in the team, not the fulcrum around whom the team revolves and exists to serve.

Anyway, Gyokeres is a long way from that.

In any case, I am also rather struck by the fact that, of the goals he has in fact scored so far while taking the field in an Arsenal shirt, Gyokeres has never actually scored Arsenal's first goal, (last night's goal was Arsenal's third). In other words, he seems more comfortable - or confident? - scoring, when Arsenal have already secured an advantage in the game, and lead relatively comfortably. Critical, goals, goals scored under stress and when under pressure, with the game balanced on a knife-edge, are goals I have yet to see him score.

Moreover, with the possible exception of last night's game, he hasn't really scored a goal in a game that I would consider, or deem, critical, or vital.
 
Gabriel Jesus seems a good striking option too… first couple of goals against Inter Milan is not bad.
I must admit that - notwithstanding his terrible injury record since he joined Arsenal, though not all of them happened when he played for us, one of his worst longterm injuries occurred while on international duty during the last world cup - I am very much a fan of Gabriel Jesus, both as a man and as a player.
 
The boos at Anfield after the Burnley draw were a talking point this week, and the podcasts were full of talk of Slot crossing a line with fans in terms of results and performances.

At the risk of being contrary I think anyone who says this is it for Slot are speaking from an emotional place rather than rationally. They might be right, but they can’t know that yet. I question whether Klopp would have done much better with this transitional squad and the injuries Slot is dealing with. Possibly better, but he also would not be trying to impose his style on the squad at the same time.

So I say stay the course. Let Slot cook. We’ll see where we are in May. The European campaign is still well alive, and there are still a lot of league games left. The squad won’t be settled and fully healthy till next August at the earliest.

There was plenty of trepidation about this Marseille match but at the end of the day it turned out to be a routine win, with Salah back in the fold to boot.
 
I watched the highlights of the Liverpool game, and I was encouraged. It could have been 5-0 except for some wasteful finishing by Salah and Ekitike, and they kept a blank sheet.

And they are in 4th place now in the league phase of the UCL, which speaks well for further progress in the knockout phases. That’s still competing for the title.

I think now is not yet the time to get impatient with Slot. The squad isn’t yet fully formed, and needs further renewal in defence, and there are injuries to be dealt with. Let him take his time.
 
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The boos at Anfield after the Burnley draw were a talking point this week, and the podcasts were full of talk of Slot crossing a line with fans in terms of results and performances.

At the risk of being contrary I think anyone who says this is it for Slot are speaking from an emotional place rather than rationally. They might be right, but they can’t know that yet. I question whether Klopp would have done much better with this transitional squad and the injuries Slot is dealing with. Possibly better, but he also would not be trying to impose his style on the squad at the same time.

So I say stay the course. Let Slot cook. We’ll see where we are in May. The European campaign is still well alive, and there are still a lot of league games left. The squad won’t be settled and fully healthy till next August at the earliest.

There was plenty of trepidation about this Marseille match but at the end of the day it turned out to be a routine win, with Salah back in the fold to boot.

It was good to see Slot play Wirtz and Szoboszlai behind Ekitike and Salah, with Frimpong and Kerkez out wide, which allowed Salah to focus on attacking.
 
The boos at Anfield after the Burnley draw were a talking point this week, and the podcasts were full of talk of Slot crossing a line with fans in terms of results and performances.

At the risk of being contrary I think anyone who says this is it for Slot are speaking from an emotional place rather than rationally. They might be right, but they can’t know that yet. I question whether Klopp would have done much better with this transitional squad and the injuries Slot is dealing with. Possibly better, but he also would not be trying to impose his style on the squad at the same time.

So I say stay the course. Let Slot cook. We’ll see where we are in May. The European campaign is still well alive, and there are still a lot of league games left. The squad won’t be settled and fully healthy till next August at the earliest.

There was plenty of trepidation about this Marseille match but at the end of the day it turned out to be a routine win, with Salah back in the fold to boot.
Slot did exceptionally well - indeed, unexpectedly well - to win the Premier League in his first season with a team that he hadn't recruited, hadn't had time to mould, and was in a state of transition, and succeeding a wildly popular manager at that.

In a way, this season is what one might have expected him to achieve last season, and is an entirely natural state of affairs given injuries, absences, and the whole process of a team in a state of transition.

My own view is that a newly appointed manager - unless he (or she) proves utterly disastrous - should be given at least four transfer windows, and preferably perhaps six, in which to demonstrate their abilities as a manager.
 
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And the year before the first CL he won the UEFA Cup with the same team he put together with cheap players and rejects. That was before getting to Chelsea and meeting the wonders of a endless money tree.

He stopped evolving several years ago but at a certain time he was undoubtedly the best manager in the World.

If you had followed his interviews in Portuguese you would know for exemple that the Special One thing comes from the fact that his English isn't great (even now) and someone asked him if he could run the team and he answered he felt a (the a is important) special one (as he had just won the CL, he meant he was now part of a restricted club, you can also pick that he found the reporters ignorant for asking the CL winner if he could manage an English club). It was coined as the special one and the rest is history.

As I said he lost his edge (IMHO) around at least 10 years ago but I know several people which dealt with him and he is a really nice guy (yeah, surprising for those knowing him from his public persona).
 
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It was good to see Slot play Wirtz and Szoboszlai behind Ekitike and Salah, with Frimpong and Kerkez out wide, which allowed Salah to focus on attacking.

We’re finally seeing the idea behind the summer signings. Leaving out Isak, they all looked promising as a group.

I know several people which dealt with him and he is a really nice guy (yeah, surprising for those knowing him from his public persona).

He deliberately, publicly, poked an opposing manager in the eye when he lost a match. That one has stayed with me over the years. Whatever he may be in private, his public persona is pretty obnoxious. At the peak of his career he was undoubtedly one of the most successful managers in the game.
 
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The boos at Anfield after the Burnley draw were a talking point this week, and the podcasts were full of talk of Slot crossing a line with fans in terms of results and performances.

At the risk of being contrary I think anyone who says this is it for Slot are speaking from an emotional place rather than rationally. They might be right, but they can’t know that yet. I question whether Klopp would have done much better with this transitional squad and the injuries Slot is dealing with. Possibly better, but he also would not be trying to impose his style on the squad at the same time.

So I say stay the course. Let Slot cook. We’ll see where we are in May. The European campaign is still well alive, and there are still a lot of league games left. The squad won’t be settled and fully healthy till next August at the earliest.

There was plenty of trepidation about this Marseille match but at the end of the day it turned out to be a routine win, with Salah back in the fold to boot.
I agree see where we are at the end of the season. Had a conversation with a colleague at work who was saying what a crap season we’re having. I agreed but pointed out that yes it’s rubbish but we’re 4th in the PL. Yes it’s not where we want to be but needs perspective.
 
Andy Robertson to Spurs is not something i had on my Bingo card

Meanwhile Emery brings Tammy Abrahams to Villa which should put Watkins on high alert

Not sure what to make of Europe right now. English teams seem to be dominating. The top 8 in the UCL consists of 5 EPL teams...incl Spurs.

Villa are second in Europa

Granted the knockout stages are a different ball game.

Whilst the EPL is now a game of attrition due to low blocks and direct approaches. English teams seem to be thriving in Europe where teams come to play football rather than sit back.

It suggests the league is stronger but watching it weekly, i have to say its a far cry from previous seasons in terms of entertainment

I also wonder if the financial gap is widening between England and the rest of Europe...
 
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