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The Americans (FX- Spoilers!)

AustinIllini said:
Guys...

...This whole season was terrible
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ritmomundo said:
The finale was, in my opinion, the best episode of an otherwise underwhelming season (and my least favorite season of the show so far). The show has always been a slow burn, so that much was expected, but I found myself bored many times. Even the EPs commented on the pace in this interview:

My thoughts as we enter the end stretch:
I'm intrigued by Renee. Is she or isn't she? :eek:
Good riddance, Pastor Tim. His storyline was way too drawn out, in my opinion.
I kinda figured something would come up to keep the Jennings from moving to Russia, so that wasn't shocking.
I do feel bad for Philip though. He's clearly unhappy. I just hope he doesn't nosedive into depression. That would not make for a fun final season.
The scene with Martha was bittersweet. I'm not sure, but it may have been meant to close up her storyline... Living in Russia, happily ever after? :oops: I hope not though, it would be nice to see her make her way back to the US.
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Season finale, what just happened?
Who is Breeland and why would his promotion to the head of the Soviet Division effect the Jennings and their decision to go home? I noticed Elizabeth looking at her house as if she was seeing it for the first time. But then there are the kids. Phillip says we deserve a life, and Elizabeth say's I can't. Can't go home? Can't give up her nice house? Phillip wants to be done so bad.

I agree that this season was slow, but yet I enjoyed it. I guess the point was to show that Phillip's heart is no longer into murdering people and ruining other people's lives, while being lied to. I just wish they had not taken the entire season to develop this idea.

Now I'm pissed and want Phillip and Elizabeth to pay! Lol. ;) I do want them to get caught and locked up. Even with this, I think their kids would be better off than going back to the Homeland.

It will be fun to discover who Renee is... if.
Regarding Martha, what about Oleg?
 
AustinIllini said:
Guys...

...This whole season was terrible
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ritmomundo said:
The finale was, in my opinion, the best episode of an otherwise underwhelming season (and my least favorite season of the show so far). The show has always been a slow burn, so that much was expected, but I found myself bored many times. Even the EPs commented on the pace in this interview:



My thoughts as we enter the end stretch:
I'm intrigued by Renee. Is she or isn't she? :eek:
Good riddance, Pastor Tim. His storyline was way too drawn out, in my opinion.
I kinda figured something would come up to keep the Jennings from moving to Russia, so that wasn't shocking.
I do feel bad for Philip though. He's clearly unhappy. I just hope he doesn't nosedive into depression. That would not make for a fun final season.
The scene with Martha was bittersweet. I'm not sure, but it may have been meant to close up her storyline... Living in Russia, happily ever after? :oops: I hope not though, it would be nice to see her make her way back to the US.
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Huntn said:
Season finale, what just happened?
Who is Breeland and why would his promotion to the head of the Soviet Division effect the Jennings and their decision to go home? I noticed Elizabeth looking at her house as if she was seeing it for the first time. But then there are the kids. Phillip says we deserve a life, and Elizabeth say's I can't. Can't go home? Can't give up her nice house? Phillip wants to be done so bad.

I agree that this season was slow, but yet I enjoyed it. I guess the point was to show that Phillip's heart is no longer into murdering people and ruining other people's lives, while being lied to. I just wish they had not taken the entire season to develop this idea.

Now I'm pissed and want Phillip and Elizabeth to pay! Lol. ;) I do want them to get caught and locked up. Even with this, I think their kids would be better off than going back to the Homeland.

It will be fun to discover who Renee is... if.
Regarding Martha, what about Oleg?
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Looks like things should pick up next season: http://deadline.com/2017/06/the-americans-creators-final-season-atx-television-festival-1202110944/
 
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Huntn said:
There will be resolution at least there better be. :)
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It's the last season, so it kind of naturally has to head that way. But then again, who knows, it might necessarily wrap up in the end, although given where it's been heading it feels like it will, one way or another.
 
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For Season 6, the final season, I’m 4 episodes behind, watching S6:Ep1- Deadhand, so far, very promising about the division between Phillip who is no longer working at spying and Elizabeth who is, a US-USSR nuclear summit, and conflict within the Soviet Government about this summit, forces working against its success, putting Elizabeth in a precarious position, and Phillip gets dragged back in. Glad to see Oleg Burof still in the game. I’m being an optimist, but this could be an amazing ending! :)

I can’t believe they have got Paige involved. She does not know her Mom kills people or sleeps with marks for a living.
 
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Wow, this is good for the final season partially because I’m anticipating some kind of closure, but maybe I’ll be dissapointed. I see a rift Philip and Elizabeth and who knows what this portends?
 
C DM said:
This last season seems to be getting pretty brutal in various ways.
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Agreed. This is going to be another one of this back in the old days stories, I was just thinking there was a time when watching Elizabeth execute two people with a knife would have been shocking even with minimal gore. Now I have to remind myself this should be shocking. Actually in real life it would be, but I’m referencing what we see on tv and in the movies which is almost routine. :(
 
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Definitely. This last episode was a bit shocking. But it’s good to see certain smaller plotlines wrapping up.

It’s hard to believe we’re already halfway thru the final season.
 
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Quite a gruesome episode.. :eek: This most certainly must be the beginning of the end.

Maybe I missed something, but I don't quite understand how Stan is so suspicious of the Jennings (or Jenningses?). ""A white man and a white woman on a bus in Chicago..." oh, that might be my long-time neighbors/best friends who have acted slightly strangely at times, but overall have given me very little reason to doubt them! Let me break into their house!" I mean, sure, he's an FBI agent and maybe it's in his nature, but this seems like a stretch. :rolleyes:
 
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What a tease! Stan to Phil “Is something going on with you? Phil to Stan “I’ve been wanting to tell you for a while.”

“Henry, don’t be too hard on your parents.”
Stan is going to feel like a frick’n idiot, if he does not end up dead.

I don’t really buy Paige’s conversion. I accept it, but don’t buy it.

I love their disguises.
Yeah, gruesome.
Stan is moving into dangerous territory.
 
Yeah, Paige has become the weakest part of the show, but not due to the actress. She's great, but the character is tough to buy. It's a little late in the game for the Russians to convince a young American woman that their dying way of life is somehow superior to the one she's living in the US.

And I'm pulling for Stan
 
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Now Paige knows her Mom sleeps with marks, and it’s all unraveling. I was shocked. One episode to go to the series final!

Elizabeth killed one of her own.
@AustinIllini I’m rooting for Stan too! :D

Will they:
  • Live or die?
  • Get away or get caught?
 
I feel like the characters believe they live in a very small world. Paige accusing Elizabeth of being the “older woman” seemed like a jump. Like it couldn’t be anyone else? Same with Stan eyeing the Jennings.

Despite that, this season has been great so far, and I’m happy with the way they’ve been wrapping up storylines.

One more episode to go!
 
ritmomundo said:
I feel like the characters believe they live in a very small world. Paige accusing Elizabeth of being the “older woman” seemed like a jump. Like it couldn’t be anyone else? Same with Stan eyeing the Jennings.

Despite that, this season has been great so far, and I’m happy with the way they’ve been wrapping up storylines.

One more episode to go!
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Well, there's some history there behind both those things.

As far as Paige's accusations those kinds of things were discussed when she wanted to get close to an intern and with her mother working the summit it seemed a little too close not to jump to that conclusion. On the other hand Elizabeth could have easily said that she isn't the only one working the summit and it could have very well been someone else.

Also, after all that Paige has been exposed to, down to being there when people are killed, seems a little silly that she would somehow then get upset over something like that. I mean it's a bit different in a sense as it involves her mother and father more directly, so to say, but just kind of naive not to realize that's one of the lesser things that likely happens when basically murder isn't all that unusual.

With Stan, all of that has basically been years in the making. It does feel like the actual leap to it all was a bit quick and flimsy in a sense, but I guess they kind of had to make that part of it finally happen this season.
 
C DM said:
Well, there's some history there behind both those things.

As far as Paige's accusations those kinds of things were discussed when she wanted to get close to an intern and with her mother working the summit it seemed a little too close not to jump to that conclusion. On the other hand Elizabeth could have easily said that she isn't the only one working the summit and it could have very well been someone else.

Also, after all that Paige has been exposed to, down to being there when people are killed, seems a little silly that she would somehow then get upset over something like that. I mean it's a bit different in a sense as it involves her mother and father more directly, so to say, but just kind of naive not to realize that's one of the lesser things that likely happens when basically murder isn't all that unusual.

With Stan, all of that has basically been years in the making. It does feel like the actual leap to it all was a bit quick and flimsy in a sense, but I guess they kind of had to make that part of it finally happen this season.
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Well, Paige hasn't yet seen her mother pulling the trigger. So this might be the worst thing she's done in her eyes, so far. They've gotten closer this season and Elizabeth has been more truthful about things with Paige, so it just seemed odd to me that she turned on her so quickly.

But yeah, I agree with what you're saying. There has been history for both those characters (Paige and Stan), and years of doubts building in their minds. Henry too probably. We just haven't seen it. The way it was portrayed in the last couple episodes though, it seemed like they were rather conveniently coming to (correct) conclusions based almost entirely on hunches.

Speaking of Stan. When the blonde was crossing the street, I thought it was Renee (finally! But no). I really hope they definitively answer the "is she or isn't she?" question in the finale.
 
C DM said:
Well, there's some history there behind both those things.

As far as Paige's accusations those kinds of things were discussed when she wanted to get close to an intern and with her mother working the summit it seemed a little too close not to jump to that conclusion. On the other hand Elizabeth could have easily said that she isn't the only one working the summit and it could have very well been someone else.

Also, after all that Paige has been exposed to, down to being there when people are killed, seems a little silly that she would somehow then get upset over something like that. I mean it's a bit different in a sense as it involves her mother and father more directly, so to say, but just kind of naive not to realize that's one of the lesser things that likely happens when basically murder isn't all that unusual.

With Stan, all of that has basically been years in the making. It does feel like the actual leap to it all was a bit quick and flimsy in a sense, but I guess they kind of had to make that part of it finally happen this season.
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ritmomundo said:
Well, Paige hasn't yet seen her mother pulling the trigger. So this might be the worst thing she's done in her eyes, so far. They've gotten closer this season and Elizabeth has been more truthful about things with Paige, so it just seemed odd to me that she turned on her so quickly.

But yeah, I agree with what you're saying. There has been history for both those characters (Paige and Stan), and years of doubts building in their minds. Henry too probably. We just haven't seen it. The way it was portrayed in the last couple episodes though, it seemed like they were rather conveniently coming to (correct) conclusions based almost entirely on hunches.

Speaking of Stan. When the blonde was crossing the street, I thought it was Renee (finally! But no). I really hope they definitively answer the "is she or isn't she?" question in the finale.
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Well there was that book about what spies did, have sex with their marks. She know her Mom has lied to her, and since her mother pushed her away from the intern, and she is the spy she knows.... I could see this. My problem with Paige is that she was so wrapped up in the Church and doing good, I did not really buy her conversion to defending her parent's motherland against evil Americans.

Paige did see her mother kill but that was in self defense, she does not know her parents regularly have sex with their targets, nor kill innocent people who see something they should not. They've got a hell of a lot of blood on their hands. Philip is repentive. Elizabeth is much more gun ho, I do what I'm ordered to do until these last two episodes, when she finally figured she was being played by the Center against Gorbachov her homeland's leader. I was shocked how she handled it.

So she's packing her bags and is getting ready to run, we'll find out next episode that Renee is a double agent. :p I just made that up, but as how stories like this go, it would not surprise me one bit, lol.

My goal for the series- Stan lives, I really want this. The Jennings are caught, Boris is repatriated back home. If the Jennings get away, I'll be pissed, although I'm sympathetic regarding Philip, and I figure Paige would not get in too much trouble by virtue of being a child when most of this was going on.
 
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