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the anti-glare screen looks AWESOME.

jimmyhii said:
+1!

even viewing the glossy screen at the apple store is a terrible experience because of all the lights around! ):
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You guys need to learn how to focus your eyes (on the image, not the glare).

Glossy >>> anti-glare for image quality, hands down. The only exception is if you're looking for a match between on screen and paper print, where the anti-glare is closer to what actually prints on paper - but that's only beneficial if you're on the job, not for personal or entertainment purposes. Other than that, there is no competition, glossy wins, especially if you're into watching videos at night (which is when most of us watch our shows and movies). And of course, the bonus is that the black glass bezel is much, much sexier than the fugly looking silver one.
 
Thanks for the thread. As if I needed more excuses to consider upgrading!

The only downside to the AG option, IMHO, is that you have to go to the hi-res screen. i.e. $150 more vs. just $50.
 
Eddyisgreat said:
I have the 17" hi res anti glare as well. Looks nice, no doubt, but I do stare in awe when looking at 13" machines (w/o antiglare), since the colors look vivid.
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You know the funny thing is, I turned down the brightness on my anti-glare and can still see the video and picture run smoothly. I think I must be nocturnal. :D
 
mark28 said:
1. They are nothing but a bunch of myths. Just think about it. The MBP with glossy screen + glass doesn't touch the keyboard. Now why would the Anti glare screen without glass touch the keyboard? I have never seen keyboard marks on my screen, so no idea where these myths come from.

2. yes ofcourse it's sturdy. If Apple needed Glass to make the lid more sturdy than something would be really wrong with Apple.

3. Just use the cloth that comes with the Mac :)

I took my Anti Glare MBP to the Apple store for repair and every Apple employee was shocked how much better my screen looked than all the glossy MBP. I saw a big difference too.

And you don't need to baby the Anti Glare screen. Now you shouldn't take a knife and try to make scratches in it ofcourse. But no sane person would ever do such a thing.
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I know someone who is a HUGE fan of glossy. That person is shocked and don't quite understand why my anit-glare looks so much better.
 
Blu101 said:
You guys need to learn how to focus your eyes (on the image, not the glare).

Glossy >>> anti-glare for image quality, hands down. The only exception is if you're looking for a match between on screen and paper print, where the anti-glare is closer to what actually prints on paper - but that's only beneficial if you're on the job, not for personal or entertainment purposes. Other than that, there is no competition, glossy wins, especially if you're into watching videos at night (which is when most of us watch our shows and movies). And of course, the bonus is that the black glass bezel is much, much sexier than the fugly looking silver one.
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I do focus on the image and not on the screen. I tried watching a movie over at my friend's house at night time and even at night, I noticed he had to bend the screen a little bit because of the glare with all the lights turned off. I also think it depends on the video card too. I pay attention to every little detail and a 512mb dedicated video memory card does make a difference compared to the 256mb dedicated video memory card. The regular 13 in is even more horrible - it's got that annoying "yellowish" background.
 
iShater said:
Thanks for the thread. As if I needed more excuses to consider upgrading!

The only downside to the AG option, IMHO, is that you have to go to the hi-res screen. i.e. $150 more vs. just $50.
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Hi-resolute screen is so much better. I actually see more stuff. Macs are expensive anyways and so this is why I recommend paying that extra $150.00.
 
For a long time I really preferred the AG screen, but I got a glossy one at work and now I work daily with both, my private AG screen and the glossy one from work and I have to say that I kind of like both now a lot and when I privately buy my next ine it will be difficult to really decide which is better. I guess in the end I just get the AG again.
 
Blu101 said:
And of course, the bonus is that the black glass bezel is much, much sexier than the fugly looking silver one.
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Personally, I don't equate a screen bezel with sex. But to each their own. :) There seem to be a lot of people who really like shiny things and I can't understand why.
 
serenesam said:
Hi-resolute screen is so much better. I actually see more stuff. Macs are expensive anyways and so this is why I recommend paying that extra $150.00.
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I have no doubt that having a higher-res option is great. However, it would be nice to be able to have the option of AG at a lower cost if you don't need the higher-res.

I am not sure I see how paying an extra $150 after buying an "expensive" machine makes sense. :) 10% premium or so?
 
iShater said:
I have no doubt that having a higher-res option is great. However, it would be nice to be able to have the option of AG at a lower cost if you don't need the higher-res.

I am not sure I see how paying an extra $150 after buying an "expensive" machine makes sense. :) 10% premium or so?
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I still wonder why the AG is more expensive than the glossy though.
 
serenesam said:
I still wonder why the AG is more expensive than the glossy though.
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Since it is added as an extra option, they can get away with it, and I am sure it does cost a bit more than the standard panel if they don't sell as many (economies of scale benefits might be less).

Never really researched it, I grabbed my current 2008 MBP right before they went with glossy as the default.
 
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Glossy is not better for image quality ( btw, no idea why the mobile version of macrumors doesn't do qoutes or replies correctly )

Pro high end monitors by Eizo for professionals who do movie and picture editing really hate displays with glare.
 
Hitrate said:
Sure the glass screen pop's the colors and contrast more, but I could never live with glare like that, ugh! Hi-res anti glare screen all the way baby ! ;)
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I agree. Right now I have the glossy screen and it's like looking in a mirror. I have to turn off my office lights and close the window blinds to work. I'm upgrading when the new MBP's are out and getting the HR AG screen. The glossy is almost impossible for me to work in a well lit room and/or by a window.
 

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serenesam said:
I tried watching a movie over at my friend's house at night time and even at night, I noticed he had to bend the screen a little bit because of the glare with all the lights turned off.
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That makes no sense. If there's no lights on, where's the glare coming from?

Make sure the keyboard lighting is off, it can glare off the screen sometimes, especially on dark toned movies.

serenesam said:
I also think it depends on the video card too. I pay attention to every little detail and a 512mb dedicated video memory card does make a difference compared to the 256mb dedicated video memory card.
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Not really:

http://www.barefeats.com/mbpp22.html

This one's probably all in your head...you *think* one's better, so you think you *see* one better than the other.

If one is actually better than the other, I'm willing to bet it's just because of the differences in production (all production parts have tolerances) and/or their calibration (again - tolerances from factory).

serenesam said:
The regular 13 in is even more horrible - it's got that annoying "yellowish" background.
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Different screen, different resolution and different graphics card. You should see a difference here.
 
mark28 said:
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Glossy is not better for image quality ( btw, no idea why the mobile version of macrumors doesn't do qoutes or replies correctly )

Pro high end monitors by Eizo for professionals who do movie and picture editing really hate displays with glare.
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...and yet the best image quality HDTVs out there are plasmas, which have a "glossy" type display...:rolleyes:

Note that "glossy" is not a display technology, like LCD, OLCD, Plasma, etc., thus each case may differ, as to whether or not a glossy version looks better than a anti-glare version.

The glossy display in the mbp allows for a bit more pop in the colors and darker blacks, etc., which appears as better to the human eye - which most refer to as better "image quality", while the anti-glare is more color correct in relation to print, so you can say that the anti-glare is better image quality for on-print.

Professionals don't particularly like glare for work because they have to look at the screen and see every minute detail in various environments, so naturally the harder it is to see the screen, the harder their job becomes - this has nothing to do with image quality, just convenience, i.e. location of screen with regards to light sources. In fact, I have an anti-glare screen at work, but I also have a large window directly behind me, so it's fine with me (and yes, I can and have used my glossy mbp at work without any problems, but I've never had issues with screen glare like some people do - doesn't mean anything against anyone, glare just bothers some and doesn't bother others).

This isn't rocket science, anti-glare screens are well known to wash out colors a bit, but of course, at the benefit of reduced glare from external light sources. It's a trade-off. If you're in a well lit area, anti-glare will look better and if you're not in a well lit area, "glossy" (non anti-glare) will look better. Pretty simple, though many in this thread blow the glare effect on the mbp's glossy screen a bit out of proportion, and I felt the need to speak up for the glossy's image quality performance, as it was not being accurately portrayed.
 
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shoebobs said:
You basically mean to say "you're looking at it wrong."

This sounds like the whole iPhone 4 "you're holding it wrong."
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lol funny, but no.

Looking at it wrong and eye focus are two different things :rolleyes:

Unless your eyes can't focus on a nearby object and then re-focus to a distant object...if so, I suggest you call an eye doctor.
 
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mark28 said:
I have never seen a MBP in real life that had marks over the glossy display due to the keyboard. So I think this is just an isolated incident of the pictures that you posted.
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Mine's done it once or twice, and it depends on how much it gets squished (sp?) in its bag while traveling. The display cover bends under pressure, and most people don't realize this or just forget. Sit on the cover and yeah, the display will bend down and touch the keyboard. It's also possible that some are a bit off from factory and thus, sit closer to the keyboard than normal, making it that much easier to touch. People forget that production products have tolerances from factory too. Without applying pressure on the display cover, mine does not touch the keyboard on its own.

Chances are the anti-glare behaves the same, but it's harder to see dirt marks on that screen, naturally.
 
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