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'The Beat Goes On' Rumor Roundup

newguineafan said:
Yeah, I think I kind of agree with you. Although the simpler look is pretty cool, with all of the features you mentioned, I think it would be kind of hard to pull off.

But who knows??
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It may look cool, but is not as efficient an interface. With a touch based UI, you simply touch the app you want- 1 click/command/whatever, and you're there.

With the FrontRow interface, you gotta scroll until you find the app you want, then select it. FrontRow uses this because of the Apple Remote. It's nice for what it is, but not the optimal solution for all interfaces.
 
Apple's response: "Buy an iPhone". The iPod is a media device. The iPhone is that as well as a communication device.

williedigital said:
What do you think Apple's response is to "why wont it do safari/ichat/etc?"

Also, wouldn't it be more likely to be an "itunes remote" since the Apple TV requires a computer running an itunes library?
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milo said:
What's your point? While the resolution is the same, there's certainly an argument to be made that a bigger screen is better. If they were to make the screen bigger, even without increasing resolution, you wouldn't consider that an improvement?
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The bigger screen just makes content blurrier. Maybe that's better for video, but for interface/games/photos? No.
 
My guess, is that no matter what apple announces tomorrow...

It won't fill the needs of everyone and there will be umpteen posts that list the items that make product X useless. Umpteen minus 1 posts about "what would you like to see in the next release of product X". And at least one "g5 powerbook next tuesday" post.

:p
 
Ember Whimsy said:
I'd personally love to see colors for the larger iPod's... then I'd actually buy one. I'm a bit of a green nut, admittedly. XD

Anyone else have opinions about that? Do you think it's possible in the future?
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Me too. I'd love to see a few colours added besides black and white. But if they are going to keep it 'premium' I can't really see it happening? *psst Apple a red one would be nice* :D
 
I guess the 'live act' at tomorrows launch is going to be Madonna as she has a song 'leaked' on the internet called "The Beat Goes On" - coincidence?

Ian
 
rdrr said:
My guess, is that no matter what apple announces tomorrow...

It won't fill the needs of everyone and there will be umpteen posts that list the items that make product X useless. Umpteen minus 1 posts about "what would you like to see in the next release of product X". And at least one "g5 powerbook next tuesday" post.

:p
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I'll be happy ;) I just got a Nano so I'm just waiting until the release after this to get a new iPod. I'll sit there knowing what I'm getting will be better than what they've just announced... Unless it's so good I can't resist.

Either way... I win :D And that's the best way to think!
 
shrimpdesign said:
The bigger screen just makes content blurrier. Maybe that's better for video, but for interface/games/photos? No.
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In general this is of course true. But in the case of 'iPod vs. Zune', both devices actually have quite high DPI. I don't think the Zune screen appears blurry at all.

(of course, the Zune screen isn't even that much bigger than the 5G iPod screen.)
 
Padraig said:
Terrible article, full of logical fallacies; prime example of why we are tarnished as zealots.
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I was just linking to it for the first point, I actually didn't read it. The Zune's screen is the same resolution, and only slightly bigger. And it's not widescreen. All true and valid points.
 
viccles said:
Me too. I'd love to see a few colours added besides black and white. But if they are going to keep it 'premium' I can't really see it happening? *psst Apple a red one would be nice* :D
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Red would definitely be a nice one. Even black with red trim, or SOMETHING, they can keep it premium and classy while adding some color. iPods aren't made for business, primarily, so I don't see why they can't become a bit more colorful...
 
viccles said:
Me too. I'd love to see a few colours added besides black and white. But if they are going to keep it 'premium' I can't really see it happening? *psst Apple a red one would be nice* :D
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ick. let's leave the hard candy shell to someone else. apple made a bold move away from the poppy rainbow of clamshell ibooks (old g3s, etc.) to serious (tasteful) advances in industrial design. let's not go back there anytime soon.
 
Apples Ipod reality and our dreams!?!

Here i sit calmly waiting for the media event tomorrow at moscone west less than 19 hours away.:rolleyes:

As i dream of a ipod with touch screen and a wide screen with possibly wifi and maybe even a digital radio built into it I must think.:rolleyes:

I must think of previous product releases that I often felt somewhat shut out of my hopeful dreams of a possibly great product. For what was presented was an incredible product like the ipod video. I must say that I felt that Apple was holding back on some features that were present in other mp3 players but dismissed in the ipod because Apple stated that such features were frivolous and not ideal for the mp3 player.

I do hope that Apple has waken up and will include such mp3 standards like a FM radio..... instead of their 3 mile plug in cord remedy. And maybe present new features that are so groundbreaking that no other mp3 player has it. Like a wif ability.:rolleyes:

WAKEUP APPLE AND PLEASE DONT DISSAPPOINT THIS IPOD FAN:rolleyes:

I simply want my next ipod to be a touch screen .... the click wheel is so last year!!! And include such important standard features like digital radio ( MAKE IT HD RADIO AND ILL BE SURPRISED):eek:

Include wifi too...... thoguh i seriously dont know what that feature might do but it sounds nice!:rolleyes::p

This is just my wishlist....... ok now only 18 hours till the best media event of hopefully the year.:rolleyes::p
 
Padraig said:
Terrible article, full of logical fallacies; prime example of why we are tarnished as zealots.
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While I disagree with the article's bigger screen/=better argument, the rest seem mostly valid to me. What's the problem? Don't forget that the article was published when the zune first shipped, they've probably fixed some of the zune problems by now.

When zune shipped, there was a ton of misinformation floating around, such as claims that the zune was widescreen. That article was addressing them, and I think it generally did a good job.

shrimpdesign said:
The bigger screen just makes content blurrier. Maybe that's better for video, but for interface/games/photos? No.
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Blurrier? No. The pixels are just bigger. But so is the picture. And isn't video a major part of these units?

As I said before, what about TV? Do you consider a bigger screen at the same resolution *not* to be better? This seems like fanboy spin to me, it just seems bizarre to try and spin a smaller screen as an advantage.

shrimpdesign said:
I was just linking to it for the first point, I actually didn't read it. The Zune's screen is the same resolution, and only slightly bigger. And it's not widescreen. All true and valid points.
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While all true, slightly bigger is still an advantage. And somewhat moot points since I don't believe anyone here ever claimed that the zune was higher resolution or widescreen.
 
Ember Whimsy said:
Red would definitely be a nice one. Even black with red trim, or SOMETHING, they can keep it premium and classy while adding some color. iPods aren't made for business, primarily, so I don't see why they can't become a bit more colorful...
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I own a red nano now. I seriously love the red color!:D ITs so cool adn vibrant. Black and white are to drab and harsh to the eye. Id like a red premium ipod or any color. Maybe even a slick sluminum body than the current plastic bodies. :rolleyes:

I keep looking at this link.......soooo alluring!:cool::rolleyes:

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0709preipod.html
 
shrimpdesign said:
I was just linking to it for the first point, I actually didn't read it. The Zune's screen is the same resolution, and only slightly bigger. And it's not widescreen. All true and valid points.
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Does MS claim it's widescreen? (Honestly i don't know) Even if it isn't, so what, neither is the ipod or iphone. The Zune's screen is excellent, one of the devices few positive features.

Read the article, I actually thought it was a parody at first. For example,

"Viewed comfortably in the hand, the tiny iPod screen is the same relative size as a 27" TV viewed from across a small room. The difference between the tiny iPod screen and the small Zune screen is relatively equivalent to viewing the iPod an inch or two closer--hardly the big deal Microsoft is trying to make it out to be."

Honestly, there is no way you defend that.
 
I dont have access to an apple store. If the ipod of my dreams is released tomorrow, do you think it would faster for me to receive one by mail (ordering it from the online apple store) or pick it up at a best buy/target/circuit city? Would the retail stores have them in stock?
 
milo said:
When Zune first shipped, MANY articles about it incorrectly said it was widescreen. The article was a reaction to that.
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But did MS?

Back to the iPod, saw an Archos 605 the other day and i couldn't help but imagine the screen in a sleeker apple enclosure.
 
newguineafan said:
this is an iPod-related even. Look at the invitation, a person with an iPod! CoverFlow! Album Art! I don't think that they would have those things for something like a Logic Pro release, would you?
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Well.. an iTunes related event anyway. iPod replacements?, iPhone (software update? price drop?), iTunes shows (HD? Rental?), AppleTV (software update? price drop? new media server?).

currentinterest said:
My guess:

Shuffle (1GB and 2GB) - Same price points.

iPod Nano (4GB, 8GB, 16GB) - Similar price points. - with video

iPod 6G (60GB, 120GB) - $249, $299 - Same interface as Nano, perhaps Wi-Fi with access limited to iTMS and for software updates. No SMS, No Camera, No Safari, No Mail. (less confident about this than the others)

iPod Touch (8GB, 16GB, and perhaps, but unlikely 32GB) Wi-Fi with access limited to iTMS and for software updates. No SMS, No Camera, No Safari, No Mail. $349, $399, $499.

Apple TV software updates and movie rentals.

Possible, but unlikely, new iPhone Nano
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Interesting guesses. I agree the iPhone Nano is possible but unlikely.

Other possibilities are upgrades so iPhone/iPod/AppleTV can buy from the iTunes store without iTunes. I keep wondering if we'll be able to sync our iTunes libraries between computers (possibly via .Mac?).

But it's all speculation... the only rumours we've seen are iPods.

Andrew07 said:
Since the new iPods will run a version of OSX, do you guys think it could require a paid update to Leopard when it comes out?
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I doubt OS upgrades will cost for AppleTV/iPhone/iPods.

Oh and I wouldn't be surprised if they upgraded to Leopard underpinnings tomorrow.
 
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