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My 2 cents:

Lame way to handle the announcement. Who in the world likes the Beatles and doesn't already have their albums in iTunes? Steve, your next announcement better be really, really good.

Apparently lots of people.

Why do people keep making this same dumb and inaccurate argument?
 
Your repeated use of the expression "orly?" as defense sort of proves the point. It's a bit like saying "I R not ignernt."

Given the statements I was replying to.... the later part of your statement is certainly not accurate for you. Feel free to defend people saying things like Beatles music has been available other online stores for years. You are the company you keep.

or in other words:

orly?
 
Apparently lots of people.

Why do people keep making this same dumb and inaccurate argument?

Lot's of people? I'm trying to come up with an estimate of the number of people who want Beatles songs on their iPods but weren't bright enough to have already manage to rip CDs, downloaded from torrents, or otherwise weren't dumb enough to simply wait until Steve spoon fed it to them. My estimate comes out to about 5 people on the planet.
 
Your ability to paint the world in broad strokes is exemplary. You like the Beatles, great. They are a popular popular band, great. I would rather sit down to Mozart or my Hank Williams LPs. I also refuse to acknowledge that carrots and broccoli may be delicious. Hopefully you will be able to acknowledge that there is more in life than your personal world view. :confused:

The Beatles cannot and should not be compared to foods, especially broccoli.

Elvis, Hank Williams Sr., The Beach Boys, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Elton John etc. These are all musical icons love them or not. Why do you have to justify your love for the Beatles by proclaiming the ignorance of others? You like the Beatles, great. Who cares if someone else calls them irrelevant? Does that tarnish their value to you? Does it make them any less relevant?

Nobody is diminishing your love for Hank/Elton/and others, but get with the discussion. It's the Beatles, not Mariah Carey- who btw should not even be in this discussion. This is a history lesson and continues to be- look at the numbers.

Fight as you will, there is no denying it- The Beatles kick some serious a$$ on all fronts.
 
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Rufuss Sewell said:
No, anyone who thinks there is depth in the Beatles output is musically ignorant. I truly am sorry for you.

Now, as a business, the Beatles are very interesting to study and that is really how they impacted society.

But candidly, I don't think there is a single innovation they produced. Not one. And they really were very poor musicians their entire careers, technically and creatively.

Music is a form of communication. That's really the point. Being that The Beatles successfully communicated their message to more people than just about any other musical artist in history (along with Elvis, Mozart, Maria Carey Michael Jackson and a handful of others) that makes them the opposite of "very poor musicians." Actually the absolute best at what they were trying to achieve.

You know, I don't disagree with you. Their "point" was to get as many monkeys as possible to send them cash. They were wildly successful!
 
My 2 cents:

Lame way to handle the announcement. Who in the world likes the Beatles and doesn't already have their albums in iTunes? Steve, your next announcement better be really, really good.

To your quote: I understand your point, but I think you are being harsh, and somewhat ignorant toward the point of the other poster. I am not a huge Beatles fan. But please listen to some of their earlier songs, then look at the date they were recorded, then listen to what was being recorded at that time before they came along. Absolutely groundbreaking, earth shattering and revolutionary, when most music was evolutionary, at best. If you can appreciate them for what they were at the time you'll come closer to "getting them." Sort of what the Apple II did for computing.

Why is the word "ignorant" always used when people don't like the Beatles? I do not care that Apple made this announcement, I do not like the Beatles. I have listened to the Beatles so I have heard their sound. I am sorry that I do not believe they are the second coming of Jesus.
 
Originally Posted by tigres
I spent the day listening to my Beatles library again.

Nothing really to complain about, it's pure genius. Anyone who cannot appreciate the depth of this band is simply in denial.

Quoted for truth. I did the same, and it was awesome.

Saw "Rain: A Tribute to the Beatles" on stage a week or two ago. http://www.raintribute.com/ It was a lot of fun - a great cover band with costumes and makeup so that the band members looked like the Beatles from the different periods.

And yes, came home and the rest of the weekend pointed the music player at the NAS server's Beatle's library and relived the past.
 
Why is the word "ignorant" always used when people don't like the Beatles? I do not care that Apple made this announcement, I do not like the Beatles. I have listened to the Beatles so I have heard their sound. I am sorry that I do not believe they are the second coming of Jesus.


There is a lot of ignorance when it comes to the Beatles because the natural inclination is to think they were a boy band based on their early material and the "Beatlemania" phenomenon with teenage girls. But their later material is brilliant. They have a wide variety of music in their catalog. I feel there is something for everyone if they're willing to check it all out.
 
Just goes to show the arrogance that is Steve Jobs and Apple, I love my Iphone 4 but all this "The day that Bla Bla Bla" crap is a little much even for Jobs and crew. What an epic "FAIL" :apple:
 
The Beatles cannot and should not be compared to foods, especially broccoli.



Nobody is diminishing your love for Hank/Elton/and others, but get with the discussion. It's the Beatles, not Mariah Carey- who btw should not even be in this discussion. This is a history lesson and continues to be- look at the numbers.

Fight as you will, there is no denying it- The Beatles kick some serious a$$ on all fronts.

Fine, fine you have convinced me. I now love the Beatles. I now worship their musical prowess and shiver at the thought of their money making ability. I am now just like you. Are you happy now?
 
Why is everyone so pleased about the Beatles?
Where were the real announcements about streaming music or the next Verizon iPhone??!!:mad:

Apple is right. I will remember yesterday's announcement.
If something like that needs a major press release, then this company is going down. Seriously. Who the hell cares about a bunch of aging, grey-haired, soon-to-die and be eaten by worms hippies trying to hang on to a happier time when they thought they actually mattered.

Move on and give us some real progress :apple:.
 
Elvis, Hank Williams Sr., The Beach Boys, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Elton John etc. These are all musical icons love them or not. Why do you have to justify your love for the Beatles by proclaiming the ignorance of others? You like the Beatles, great. Who cares if someone else calls them irrelevant? Does that tarnish their value to you? Does it make them any less relevant?

None of those you listed besides Elvis comes close to carrying the cultural dominance and long-term popularity of the Beatles. My appreciation for the Beatles doesn't diminish their success or talent at all, or vice versa. In fact, the Beach Boys and certainly Sir Elton would unquestionably own up to being influenced by the Beatles. I own most of the full catalogs of all those artists as well (except HWSr).

This conversation, however, is about the Beatles. Must have seen this thread repeated a dozen times on MacRumors over the past several years whenever the Beatles-on-iTunes rumor would resurface. Not enjoying their music is a personal opinion, and everyone likes different music. But claiming that the Beatles were untalented, are irrelevant, or even that it's not a "big deal" for them to be on iTunes is just not consistent with the reality of our culture and our world. May as well argue that the sun is irrelevant because it revolves around the earth. Is there any other artist who could put out a greatest hits compliation 30 years after the end of their recording career and have it be the #1 album of the decade? The Beatles are talented musicians who created a catalog of music that people still want to hear and they remain relevant to this day.

Again, besides Elvis, who also had that unique combination of talent, charisma, and worldwide popularity, what other artist could possibly deserve a banner announcement on Apple.com? Both Madonna and Elvis were hyped within the iTunes store when their catalogs were added, as were the Rolling Stones. Far from complaining that the Beatles arrival didn't deserve such fanfare, people should be applauding Apple for showing the restraint to not devote their front page to every other artist that has joined the iTunes fold over the years.
 
Relevancy

I posted something like this in the previous thread, I'll try to make this short and sweet.

The argument that the Beatles on iTunes are a non event because anyone who wants their songs would have purchased them years ago is simply not valid when you look at the data.

In the year 2008 the Beatles sold about 1,300,000 records in North America and were number 17 in that year's total record sales.

And in 2008, many people knew the remasters were coming out soon, so they would have delayed their purchase.

A more typical year in the last decade was 2007, where the Beatles sold 1,900,000 records (not sure about their rank that year.)

There is absolutely no reason to think that this is going to slow down. Despite anyone's personal opinions people keep buying the Beatles.

Obviously record sales is not indicative of quality, but from the standpoint of digital music, when the world's #1 selling band, which charts in the top 20 of total albums sold (or close to it) year after year for over 45 years, becomes available after almost a decade of legal rangling, that in and of itself makes it relevant.


- All numbers from Nielsen Soundscan or Billboard.
 
Lot's of people? I'm trying to come up with an estimate of the number of people who want Beatles songs on their iPods but weren't bright enough to have already manage to rip CDs, downloaded from torrents, or otherwise weren't dumb enough to simply wait until Steve spoon fed it to them. My estimate comes out to about 5 people on the planet.

And those 5 people have put Abbey Road and The White Album in the iTunes Top Ten today. Good job 5 people!! :rolleyes:
 
Any specs?

Can anyone confirm that they're DRM-Free and what kpbs the AAC is?

Sounds like it'd be better to save a few bucks and get the box-set, but then I'd still have to rip them and for those who are lazy or short of time (or BOTH) - this doesn't sound like a bad option. It's less than 59 cents a song that way.
 
Have you listened to their entire catalog? Not sure how anyone can say a song like "In My Life" has shallow lyrics.


Apparently nobody noticed KnightWRX's less-than-subtle trolling... "lacks minor chords and distortion" and "over 200bpm songs"? "You Beatles fans should learn to just let it be."

Seriously, I thought my sarcasm filters were broken but if this stuff completely evades your trolldar you have zero sense of humor.
 
Can anyone confirm that they're DRM-Free and what kpbs the AAC is?

Sounds like it'd be better to save a few bucks and get the box-set, but then I'd still have to rip them and for those who are lazy or short of time (or BOTH) - this doesn't sound like a bad option. It's less than 59 cents a song that way.

Like all iTunes at this point, 256 Kbps AAC, no DRM.
 
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