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No, its not. It seems like going by all the reviews from the Australian store everyone feels the same as i do.

So, why are the people who have purchased the box set but not left a review not been included in your sample?

I can tell you now that there are an order of magnitude more of them than those who have left a review.
 
UK pricing.... seems fair enough to me

I can feel the rage of the geeks, but having actually looked at the pricing I'm not sure what the fuss is about.

HMV are selling the box set for £159.99 (it says "list price £204.99. Your saving = £45)
The mono set is £286.99!

Amazon have reduced their price to £119.99

iTunes price =£125, with iTunes LP videos, the Washington concert video etc.

Why the fuss? If it was still 128kbps with DRM you would have a minor point against iTunes, but 256kbps and DRM free is perfectly acceptable.

You may now go back to senseless geek rage. Carry on.
 
If it doesn't sell as well as in other countries Apple may take notice of the comments and reduce the price (if they can). It's not going to happen in the first couple of days though.

Seeing as it's number 15 in the Australian chart that probably isn't going to happen soon.
 
I can feel the rage of the geeks, but having actually looked at the pricing I'm not sure what the fuss is about.

HMV are selling the box set for £159.99 (it says "list price £204.99. Your saving = £45)
The mono set is £286.99!

Amazon have reduced their price to £119.99

iTunes price =£125, with iTunes LP videos, the Washington concert video etc.

Why the fuss? If it was still 128kbps with DRM you would have a minor point against iTunes, but 256kbps and DRM free is perfectly acceptable.

You may now go back to senseless geek rage. Carry on.

Actually, the only thing iTunes has that isn't in the box is the Washington concert.

Personally, I do agree with BlackMangoTree that the pricing is too high. That applies just about everywhere. If you take the UK and Australian price at the current exchange rate there is only about £10 difference between them.

That's the way it is, and also there are often US taxes that effect their price which nobody tends to take account of.

Having said all that, if people are paying that price, which they appear to be doing, then I can't blame the companies for selling at that price.
 
Regardless of the details and attempts to discount the stats, the performance of the Beatles material in its first 24 hours completely discredits the "Everyone who wants this stuff has already bought the CDs and ripped them nobody is going to buy this" comments. I expected a few popular singles to climb the charts as casual fans filled in their Beatles collections having never bought full CDs. That the $149 Box Set is knocking on the Top Ten was completely unexpected, even for Beatles "fanboi" like me.


The box set is selling far better than I expected as well. But it is by far the best deal for Beatles music on iTunes. It's a 25% markup over the box set on Amazon whereas the individual albums are 75-80% markup.
 

Well, it's number 15 in the Australian album chart and there were something like 50 reviews when I looked (a number of which weren't in agreement with you I noticed).

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it takes more than 100 downloads to get to 15 in the Australian iTunes chart.

Doesn't mean anything, maybe one copy has been bought


Seriously though who would pay 100% more ?

It appears that lots of people would.

It hardly needs saying that if it took just one sale to get to number 15 then iTunes would have done something about their pricing by now.

They don't just have high prices for the fun of it you know. They have them because people pay them.
 
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It's been up about a day now and three albums in the top ten and 8 more for a total of 11 in the top 25.

Nah, nobody's interested in buying these at all...
 
All I can say is this... rapidshare FTW! :D

Do you seriously think this isn't a scam, and that you aren't being sucked in? For what it is worth (or for who will listen) I am not in any sort of "geek rage", in fact I am just laughing inside, quietly, at all the mugs spending REAL money on a virtual "product" which costs MORE than the real, physical product (which is still a ripoff, only a slightly more physical entity).

Who's the fools, then? To make a comparison with physical products, if you "bought" six of these "products" @ this price, you'd have enough for a PHYSICAL MacBook, which costs labour and parts to assemble. iTunes "products" cost ZERO, after the initial outlay of converting the media to iTMS format, and possibly paying royalties to those who I'm sure really don't need the money. They're laughing at you, and, quite frankly, so am I :D
 
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Did I read that right? You spent TWO HUNDRED POUNDS on earphones? So, in what way did you convince yourself that you weren't being robbed in broad daylight? What possible benefit could £200 earphones give you, apart from being a placebo?

I'm sorry, maybe I'm not an "audiophile", but that is plain stupid IMHO.
There's no placebo. Overspending on headphones that could be bought cheaper elsewhere is not wise, but buying good headphones? Why is that bad? Do you buy nice monitors? Do you have a nice hi-def TV? You tend to get what you pay for. You don't necessarily have to be an audiophile to enjoy the benefits of good quality headphones. I can almost guarantee that if almost anyone dedicated some time to listening solely to GOOD headphones, then went back to the cheap ones they'd been using, they'd find it very, very hard to put up with the cheap ones. Just like hi-def TV and good ol' analog TV - sure, they both deliver the same content, but one is far superior. It's easy to convince yourself that the analog is fine for the price, but once you've seen hi-def a number of times, it's pretty hard to not want it. Same goes for headphones.

Personally, I think it's a shame people write off the quality of the sound going into their ears. So eager to spend huge amounts of money on the actual devices we put music into but so unwilling to invest a decent amount into the part that actually interfaces with the very sensitive hearing parts of our bodies. Ask anyone that knows car audio, and they'll tell you: if you want to make an improvement in your car's stock audio system, upgrade the speakers first! Same goes for your headphones. And if you know how to take care of things, you will probably have your expensive headphones a lot longer than whatever device you're listening to (unfortunately most people are spoiled and treat everything they own like crap, so maybe it's best most people buy $10 headphones.)
 
I have had this feeling since I started reading MacRumors that if you hold an Apple announcement with all the MR members in person in a room full of guns and knives, nobody leaves alive.

I don't know about that, but I'll bet any amount of money that if the Apple hater MR members were in a room with Steve Jobs while he announces something big (in terms of how Apple views it) and then it turns out to be lackluster, I'll bet the MR members will just be accepting and be too cowardly to speak to Jobs they way they attack and insult him here. Sure, you can sit behind a computer and be a cowardly bitch but I beg to differ that they would tell Steve off they way they talk crap on this forum like cowards behind a computer. :p
 
There's no placebo. Overspending on headphones that could be bought cheaper elsewhere is not wise, but buying good headphones? Why is that bad? Do you buy nice monitors? Do you have a nice hi-def TV? You tend to get what you pay for. You don't necessarily have to be an audiophile to enjoy the benefits of good quality headphones. I can almost guarantee that if almost anyone dedicated some time to listening solely to GOOD headphones, then went back to the cheap ones they'd been using, they'd find it very, very hard to put up with the cheap ones. Just like hi-def TV and good ol' analog TV - sure, they both deliver the same content, but one is far superior. It's easy to convince yourself that the analog is fine for the price, but once you've seen hi-def a number of times, it's pretty hard to not want it. Same goes for headphones.

Personally, I think it's a shame people write off the quality of the sound going into their ears. So eager to spend huge amounts of money on the actual devices we put music into but so unwilling to invest a decent amount into the part that actually interfaces with the very sensitive hearing parts of our bodies. Ask anyone that knows car audio, and they'll tell you: if you want to make an improvement in your car's stock audio system, upgrade the speakers first! Same goes for your headphones. And if you know how to take care of things, you will probably have your expensive headphones a lot longer than whatever device you're listening to (unfortunately most people are spoiled and treat everything they own like crap, so maybe it's best most people buy $10 headphones.)

I'm not a walking spectrum analyser, I just like to hear music coming in, and happiness inside, with smiles coming out. £200 is ridiculous, just as much as the pricing of Macs is ridiculous. I couldn't live with myself if I had spent £200 on something that simply puts music in my ears. Just because everything in the western world is prohibitively expensive, people seem to have "got used" to being fleeced - doesn't make it any more morally acceptable, ESPECIALLY when you consider how the people who make the equipment are exploited and the pittance they receive!

You can carry on using multi-paragraphs to justify wrong doing, and I'll carry on with my thinking that it is not right. Simple as that.

You're also giving the impression that you think that people who use $10 earphones are somehow missing out? Nope, we get the same level of enjoyment, and leave the store a little better off. If the company who sold the earphones reduced them to £30, would you suddenly assume they are inferior? I think you probably would. You've been told they are better, and your mind will convince you of such, because it knows you paid £200 for them. Psychology is a powerful thing, as much as you are going to deny it to yourself, it rules you, not the other way around.
 
I can feel the rage of the geeks, but having actually looked at the pricing I'm not sure what the fuss is about.

HMV are selling the box set for £159.99 (it says "list price £204.99. Your saving = £45)
The mono set is £286.99!

Amazon have reduced their price to £119.99

iTunes price =£125, with iTunes LP videos, the Washington concert video etc.

Why the fuss? If it was still 128kbps with DRM you would have a minor point against iTunes, but 256kbps and DRM free is perfectly acceptable.

You may now go back to senseless geek rage. Carry on.
I don't think it's a great price either, but you can't compare sale prices with list price. Itunes' list price is pretty fair compared to the hard-copy list price. Itunes doesn't tend to compete with any other stores on prices, from what I've seen. Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart, whoever, are free to do whatever they want with their prices because they're the ones who carry the burden of paying for the wholesale price of their products. Itunes may very well have a clause in their contract with EMI over the Beatles' music that it can't be priced lower than $xx or put on sale or whatever. We don't know. I'm sure Apple was just happy to carry the Beatles' music digitally, exclusively, it appears, at their normal prices and now they can tout that all they want. Maybe you can buy the Beatles CDs elsewhere, maybe even cheaper, but a surprising amount of people really don't care about paying for files and really, really don't want CDs.
 
I'm not a walking spectrum analyser, I just like to hear music coming in, and happiness inside, with smiles coming out. £200 is ridiculous, just as much as the pricing of Macs is ridiculous. I couldn't live with myself if I had spent £200 on something that simply puts music in my ears. Just because everything in the western world is prohibitively expensive, people seem to have "got used" to being fleeced - doesn't make it any more morally acceptable, ESPECIALLY when you consider how the people who make the equipment are exploited and the pittance they receive!

You can carry on using multi-paragraphs to justify wrong doing, and I'll carry on with my thinking that it is not right. Simple as that.

You're also giving the impression that you think that people who use $10 earphones are somehow missing out? Nope, we get the same level of enjoyment, and leave the store a little better off. If the company who sold the earphones reduced them to £30, would you suddenly assume they are inferior? I think you probably would. You've been told they are better, and your mind will convince you of such, because it knows you paid £200 for them. Psychology is a powerful thing, as much as you are going to deny it to yourself, it rules you, not the other way around.

I've got these....

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£349. I didn't pay for them but i'd say they are worth every penny.
 
a good edition to any library. I downloaded the discography ages ago for less money from another source and imported into my library in itunes. Love it
 
The only fools are the ones who pay the money to Apple, for something they will never actually own. How can you "own" a digital music track? You deserve to be fleeced. You already own the medium onto which the music will be downloaded. Let us say, for one example, that by some incredible fluke of genius, that you were able to memorise the EXACT binary sequences that comprise the entire box set tracks, and type them into a hex editor. Would that make you a thief? no, just very clever indeed.

My point is this - noone except you owns your hard disk, and it is up to you how you manipulate the individual "01001001010010010111110" binary state of the cells that comprise the medium onto which the music is downloaded. Apple haven't sold you ANYTHING AT ALL, they have just manipulated the on/off state of the binary storage medium you own, to create a stream of data which represents and emulates the original, physical product/s!

My friends, you "own" precisely nothing, and you have paid hundreds of dollars for someone to change the state of the bits on your storage devices.

LOL!!!!
 
I'm not a walking spectrum analyser, I just like to hear music coming in, and happiness inside, with smiles coming out. £200 is ridiculous, just as much as the pricing of Macs is ridiculous. I couldn't live with myself if I had spent £200 on something that simply puts music in my ears. Just because everything in the western world is prohibitively expensive, people seem to have "got used" to being fleeced - doesn't make it any more morally acceptable, ESPECIALLY when you consider how the people who make the equipment are exploited and the pittance they receive!

You can carry on using multi-paragraphs to justify wrong doing, and I'll carry on with my thinking that it is not right. Simple as that.

You're also giving the impression that you think that people who use $10 earphones are somehow missing out? Nope, we get the same level of enjoyment, and leave the store a little better off. If the company who sold the earphones reduced them to £30, would you suddenly assume they are inferior? I think you probably would. You've been told they are better, and your mind will convince you of such, because it knows you paid £200 for them. Psychology is a powerful thing, as much as you are going to deny it to yourself, it rules you, not the other way around.

You seem to forget that people are prepared to spend a lot of money for good sound quality as the more expensive earphones are the better the sound
quality. I once spent £3 on earphones and the sound quality was terrible yet the earphones I bought for £200 ( and yes I know I could of got them half the price in other stores) sounded far superior. I know you don't have the audiophile ears to appreciate the sound but that is the facts.
 
You seem to forget that people are prepared to spend a lot of money for good sound quality as the more expensive earphones are the better the sound
quality. i once spent £3 on earphones and this sound quality was terrible yet the earphones I bought for £200 ( and yes I know I could of got them half the price in other stores) sounded far superior.

You *knew* you could have got them for half the price, and yet you didn't? You are a fool.
You don't want to listen, ergo I don't care to debate any further. :)
 
The only fools are the ones who pay the money to Apple, for something they will never actually own. How can you "own" a digital music track? You deserve to be fleeced. You already own the medium onto which the music will be downloaded. Let us say, for one example, that by some incredible fluke of genius, that you were able to memorise the EXACT binary sequences that comprise the entire box set tracks, and type them into a hex editor. Would that make you a thief? no, just very clever indeed.

My point is this - noone except you owns your hard disk, and it is up to you how you manipulate the individual "01001001010010010111110" binary state of the cells that comprise the medium onto which the music is downloaded. Apple haven't sold you ANYTHING AT ALL, they have just manipulated the on/off state of the binary storage medium you own, to create a stream of data which represents and emulates the original, physical product/s!

My friends, you "own" precisely nothing, and you have paid hundreds of dollars for someone to change the state of the bits on your storage devices.

LOL!!!!

You should have chose the blue pill...
 
The only fools are the ones who pay the money to Apple, for something they will never actually own. How can you "own" a digital music track? You deserve to be fleeced. You already own the medium onto which the music will be downloaded. Let us say, for one example, that by some incredible fluke of genius, that you were able to memorise the EXACT binary sequences that comprise the entire box set tracks, and type them into a hex editor. Would that make you a thief? no, just very clever indeed.

My point is this - noone except you owns your hard disk, and it is up to you how you manipulate the individual "01001001010010010111110" binary state of the cells that comprise the medium onto which the music is downloaded. Apple haven't sold you ANYTHING AT ALL, they have just manipulated the on/off state of the binary storage medium you own, to create a stream of data which represents and emulates the original, physical product/s!

My friends, you "own" precisely nothing, and you have paid hundreds of dollars for someone to change the state of the bits on your storage devices.

LOL!!!!

By that theory you are saying that paying a Sky Subscription for example is stupid aswell as you're not owning the shows your viewing? :confused:
 
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