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Third, most wheel studs on modern cars are SAE grade 8 or ISO 10.9 studs, meaning they are carbon alloy steel and have a tensile strength of 150,000 pounds. You are not going to strip or break one that's in good shape without WAY overshooting the torque specs.
lots of people have stripped studs.


Ironically, why alloy wheels have a lower torque spec is actually related to the topic at hand. By alloy wheels they mean an aluminum alloy. So the wheels are much softer than steel wheels, and therefore cannot be torqued as tightly without damaging the wheels.

actually it is mostly to do with the lug nuts. Most alloy rims use alloy lug nuts which end up stripped much sooner then steel wheels which traditionally used steel lug nuts.
 
Not BS. I saw his pictures and read his story. I think it came from the factory defective.


Yeah sorry just saw that as well.

His bend is a completely different matter.

It's actually bent the other way round, screen inwards.

All other bents are back inwards

If you know what I mean.

If fact I can hardly see a bend there on those photos

Good you exchange it if it was bothering you that much.

I probably wouldn't even notice that.
 
Nope.
Have had my Plus coming now to 2 weeks. Normal usage, phone calls Internet browsing, social media, etc etc

Front pocket in and out.

No bending...

Explain!?

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Video?

Calling it BS!

I've no explanation for it but see for yourself.
 

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Yeah sorry just saw that as well.

His bend is a completely different matter.

It's actually bent the other way round, screen inwards.

All other bents are back inwards

If you know what I mean.

If fact I can hardly see a bend there on those photos

Good you exchange it if it was bothering you that much.

I probably wouldn't even notice that.

I think it bends either way. Reason mine curved inwards of the screen is that when it's in my front pocket, the screen is facing my thigh. This is of course assuming it didn't come from the factory like this.
 
How old are you guys posting these threads?

You have to be kidding? This one needs to be closed.

No, nothing you have posted OP shows or demonstrates that anyone cheated or faked anything regarding bending the phone. Your conclusions do not follow.

Well, since booksbooks doesn't like a post, it should be shut down. There is no debating the fact that if some guy on the internet named booksbooks doesn't like it, it should stay up. Take this down!!! Everyone is wasting some guy on the internet named booksbooks' time.
 
I think it bends either way. Reason mine curved inwards of the screen is that when it's in my front pocket, the screen is facing my thigh. This is of course assuming it didn't come from the factory like this.

If it's in your front pocket, with screen against your thigh, it doesn't make sense that it would bend into the screen. Instead, it should be bending away from the screen, as it is being supported by your thigh and hip, and squeezed in by your pants when you sit.
 
Why is everyone stressing about this? Someone is just going to make a poll in 6 months asking iPhone 6+ customers whether or not their phone is bent - should become pretty obvious by then.

My fiance's iPhone 5 was noticeably bent; you get over it. It makes a big difference at the genius bar, however, as her phone was refused service, including for the battery replacement program recently offered for a batch of defective devices.
 
If it's in your front pocket, with screen against your thigh, it doesn't make sense that it would bend into the screen. Instead, it should be bending away from the screen, as it is being supported by your thigh and hip, and squeezed in by your pants when you sit.

Yes it does make sense. Your thigh is curved upward, hence making the screen follow suit but curved inward.

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you going to use that "free reward"? can i has it.:D

What free reward?
 
The Bendguy Cheated You Again.

I think it bends either way. Reason mine curved inwards of the screen is that when it's in my front pocket, the screen is facing my thigh. This is of course assuming it didn't come from the factory like this.


I see in the other thread you say you hardly put It in your pocket.

Very strange indeed.

Mine is always in my pocket. Driving, at work, at home.

No bending

Yours must definitely have come out of the box like that.

The reason these youtubers are bending the phones from the back instead of form the front is because they would probably shatter the glass or separate the glass from the back before they would bend the aluminium back.

Anyways shame u didn't get a replacement to see if you could replicate the bend with a good unit out of the box.

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If it's in your front pocket, with screen against your thigh, it doesn't make sense that it would bend into the screen. Instead, it should be bending away from the screen, as it is being supported by your thigh and hip, and squeezed in by your pants when you sit.


True that doesn't make sense....

And he says also In the other thread he hardly puts it in his front pocket.

Mystery!

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Yes it does make sense. Your thigh is curved upward, hence making the screen follow suit but curved inward.

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What free reward?


Nope

Your thigh is of much thicker mass than your pants.

Thus the phone would have more pressure coming from your thigh and would bend the other way.

Your bend doesn't make sense.

It came like that for factory for sure
 
I see in the other thread you say you hardly put It in your pocket.

Very strange indeed.

Mine is always in my pocket. Driving, at work, at home.

No bending

Yours must definitely have come out of the box like that.

The reason these youtubers are bending the phones from the back instead of form the front is because they would probably shatter the glass or separate the glass from the back before they would bend the aluminium back.

Anyways shame u didn't get a replacement to see if you could replicate the bend with a good unit out of the box.

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True that doesn't make sense....

And he says also In the other thread he hardly puts it in his front pocket.

Mystery!

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Nope

Your thigh is of much thicker mass than your pants.

Thus the phone would have more pressure coming from your thigh and would bend the other way.

Your bend doesn't make sense.

It came like that for factory for sure

What am I missing here? Stand up, tape a piece of paper flat on your thigh, sit, remove the paper, which way is it curved? It makes absolute sense because when sitting, the pants will become tighter, thus putting more pressure on the phone against the upward curve of your thigh.
 
What am I missing here? Stand up, tape a piece of paper flat on your thigh, sit, remove the paper, which way is it curved? It makes absolute sense because when sitting, the pants will become tighter, thus putting more pressure on the phone against the upward curve of your thigh.

What you are missing here is that to get the amount of pressure required to bend the phone in this way would require your pants to be so tight, that you would be getting your leg amputated.
 
What am I missing here? Stand up, tape a piece of paper flat on your thigh, sit, remove the paper, which way is it curved? It makes absolute sense because when sitting, the pants will become tighter, thus putting more pressure on the phone against the upward curve of your thigh.


It's all about mass and pressure.

It's been discussed a lot in these threads I'm not gonna even get into it....again.

To be able to match the mass and pressure from your leg you would have to be wearing pants made of steel...

in any case it's been proved that in no way can you recreate 70lbs of force on the front pocket of your pants. That's the force needed to deform these phones.
 
Ok guys, I haven't had the time to read all the posts yet but let me chime in a bit.

I was wondering if the 5G iPod Touch is also prone to bending, since this model is actually thinner (!) than iPhone 6 and 6 Plus clocking in at 6.1mm, however, not even close to being as big as an iPhone 6 Plus!

I did a quick Google search on this matter and actually there were a lot of reports of iPod Touches bending! Now, let me tell you I've had an iPod Touch 5G since it first came out and I've not been treating it carefully at all. It dropped to the floor several times, has dents all over; I've carried it in my pocket always, I've sat on it, I've stepped on it unintentionally, I didn't really care what happened to it... I just laid it onto a flat surface, and it is flat. Completely flat.

Now, I don't know if the iPod Touch's chassis are manufactured with a different metal than the new iPhones and I hope they are not. If they are not, I guess these bending issues are quite the same as with owners of the new iPhones... Also considering the iPod Touch is much much smaller than iPhone 6 Plus it could possible be that the iPhone is just a tad too big. So maybe it's a material defect, maybe it's a design flaw, but let me tell you, the iPod Touch is thinner, and doesn't bend at all; and all the people having bent iPod Touches must have had faulty material or exerted some brutal force to bend their iPods... Just a different thought to this whole issue from my side...

Nonetheless, I can't wait for my iPhone 6 to arrive :)
 
Consumer reports are just a bunch of guys who refuse to see the obvious. They get hung up on complexity. The simple eluded them. That being. Pick the thing up with your hands and bend it at the weak point. Oh no no nothing so crass we need elaborate machinery that our superior minds have developed. We don't use something so common as our hands. What are you apes or some thing. Riff raff with their crazy idea cause they can't afford expensive shiney test equipment like ours. Go away peasents with your foolish uneducated thinking. Leave this to our highly evolved minds.

And funny (not haha) thing is if someone at Apple had just picked the thing up and tried to break it they would have discovered it earlier.

To add to the conversantion. Maybe some will find this interesting. Whilst others can use it to argue further.

 
Consumer reports are just a bunch of guys who refuse to see the obvious. They get hung up on complexity. The simple eluded them. That being. Pick the thing up with your hands and bend it at the weak point. Oh no no nothing so crass we need elaborate machinery that our superior minds have developed. We don't use something so common as our hands. What are you apes or some thing. Riff raff with their crazy idea cause they can't afford expensive shiney test equipment like ours. Go away peasents with your foolish uneducated thinking. Leave this to our highly evolved minds.



And funny (not haha) thing is if someone at Apple had just picked the thing up and tried to break it they would have discovered it earlier.



To add to the conversantion. Maybe some will find this interesting. Whilst others can use it to argue further.



YouTube: video


It's called science.

no one can tell if The Unbox Therapy guy is using the same force on the iPhone as on his beloved Moto X.

No one can tell if the Unbox Therapy guy is using the same support conditions on the iPhone as on his beloved Moto X

you know why engineers don't design bridges by building them first and then driving cars to test it out.....science buddy!!!
 
Consumer reports are just a bunch of guys who refuse to see the obvious. They get hung up on complexity. The simple eluded them. That being. Pick the thing up with your hands and bend it at the weak point. Oh no no nothing so crass we need elaborate machinery that our superior minds have developed. We don't use something so common as our hands. What are you apes or some thing. Riff raff with their crazy idea cause they can't afford expensive shiney test equipment like ours. Go away peasents with your foolish uneducated thinking. Leave this to our highly evolved minds.

And funny (not haha) thing is if someone at Apple had just picked the thing up and tried to break it they would have discovered it earlier.

To add to the conversantion. Maybe some will find this interesting. Whilst others can use it to argue further.

YouTube: video

the comment I wrote on that video:

understand you're trying to defend Lewis and your youtube community, although there's major flaws in what you claim on this video:
1- the CR test was fair on all tested phones. They applied the load in the same spot on all phones. To apply the load on the iPhone 6 weak spot they would have to apply the load on all other phones weak spots.....all phones have weak spots!!

2- the diagram you show at 2:39 is wrong. There is no point load/support at the ends as the diagram shows with the 2 red arrows. There is an end twisting moment. I'm a Structural Engineer......

3- even though you talk a lot about the tests being made by youtubers you still can't come up with real life examples on how these phones are being bent in real life usage by storing these phones in pockets. to create a 70lb/fr load in your pocket you would probably injury your leg before you even notice your phone is bent.

4- until I see a test where an unbent phone is put in a pocket and comes out of pocket bent I'm calling all this uproar BS!
 
I bet if the test was done exactly the way you wanted you would still manage find something "wrong."
 
we need to build a machine that replicates the monkey test. We need to pour millions into building a machine that is shaped like hands and can apply pressure like hands. This machine will take years to build, it will take millions in cash and the best minds of our time will work on it.
:rolleyes:
 
The Bendguy Cheated You Again.

we need to build a machine that replicates the monkey test. We need to pour millions into building a machine that is shaped like hands and can apply pressure like hands. This machine will take years to build, it will take millions in cash and the best minds of our time will work on it.

:rolleyes:


Watch the video that The Verge made when they visited the Apple testing facility.
They have machines that replicate all kinds of situations including one that shows an ass simulator sitting on a phone.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/25/6845611/inside-apples-iphone-6-torture-building

People imply that Apple hasn't tested these units and that they manufactured something that wasn't put through its paces.....it's mind boggling!!
 
Watch the video that The Verge made when they visited the Apple testing facility.
They have machines that replicate all kinds of situations including one that shows an ass simulator sitting on a phone.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/25/6845611/inside-apples-iphone-6-torture-building

People imply that Apple hasn't tested these units and that they manufactured something that wasn't put through its paces.....it's mind boggling that they didn't just pick one up and try to bend it with their hands!!

fixed it for you :D
 
fixed it for you :D


You know why?

Apple never thought there would be enough morons out there that would pay $900 for an electronic device to then proceed and bend it with their hands.

But hey we all descend from monkeys right?....some evolved, others.....didn't!
 
The issue is illustrated by the existence of this thread and others like it.

We'll need to wait and see if this is like the iPhone 5 or if it sticks around.
 
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