I don't think it will. A few months ago when I was originally trying to figure out how to get the menus back after reading this thread, I first tried replacing CoreUI only and things wouldn't boot up. If I did it in place while already logged in, programs would crash and cite HIToolbox as the reason. The two are completely linked, it seems.
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I don't think it will. A few months ago when I was originally trying to figure out how to get the menus back after reading this thread, I first tried replacing CoreUI only and things wouldn't boot up. If I did it in place while already logged in, programs would crash and cite HIToolbox as the reason. The two are completely linked, it seems.
This is a real bummer
I'm going to revert back to solid menus for the time being, my hope is someone will come along with a workaround
Daft question - is reverting back to the solid menus as simple as swapping back the two files?
(and do I need to fiddle with the command line again?)
Thanks!!
I'm going to revert back to solid menus for the time being, my hope is someone will come along with a workaround
Daft question - is reverting back to the solid menus as simple as swapping back the two files?
(and do I need to fiddle with the command line again?)
Thanks!!
I was afraid of that.
But driving to work this morning, I had an unexplainable feeling that we haven't seen the end of this just yet.
Pretty much. You could use Finder instead of the CLI to put back your backups of these files:This is a real bummer
I'm going to revert back to solid menus for the time being, my hope is someone will come along with a workaround
Daft question - is reverting back to the solid menus as simple as swapping back the two files?
(and do I need to fiddle with the command line again?)
Thanks!!
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/Versions/A/CoreUI
Ensure proper ownership: root:wheel
& permissions: -rwxr-xr-x (755)
The following file did not change from 10.5.3 to 10.5.4 on my system. As I recall, depending on hardware or upgrade version, some people might have had to change:
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreUI.framework/Versions/A/Resources/SArtFile.bin
Ownership: root:wheel
Permissions: -rw-r--r-- (644)
Then, reboot and enjoy the dullness.
Ok fek it, I give up... I decided to stop being a ***** and undid the hack so I could install iTunes 8...now I can sync my Touch again. I didn't experience any problems so far with iTunes 8, au contraire, the enhancements and UI changes are really slick. Check out the new visualizer!
Hang on a sec - is the new Visualiser the reason behind iTunes tapping up these files??
Ooo, very cool.
I tend to doubt it. HIToolbox is used for interface elements, like the "tabs" in the new grid view. The visualizer doesn't have a UI to speak of. But I suppose anything's possible.Mr Lizard said:
Does the new visualizer work on Tiger? It puts so little strain on the CPU compare it with the "iTunes Classic Visualizer" that I think it must be drawing on CoreAnimation.
Or something like that.
I actually do like iTunes 8. I like the so-called "grid view" and overall think that the UI is better. I wish that there was a to get back the old translucent menus, however. I wonder what the difference in the Art files is between 10.5.1 and 10.5.4? Obviously, things changed, as iTunes 8 needs the newer build. But wouldn't the menu alpha-shading value be pretty much irrelevant (other than changing the alpha component of the menu vector, obviously)?
I'm a list view purist, so the grid doesn't grab me any more than the unlamented album view did.
But overall, with the double whammy of iTunes 8 and the 2.1 iPhone/Touch update, I'm not going to go downgrade just for the menu hack. Who knows ... after a few weeks of exposure to the just-barely-translucent menus, I may be sensitized enough that the original Leopard menus would poke my eyes out.
Anyway, I have enough Leopard-related frustrations with battery life and sleep/hibernation hangs that if I did downgrade, it would be to freaking Tiger. I sure hope 10.5.5 is an improvement.
So I guess with the arrival of 10.5.5 (which is pretty much problem-free for me), the idea of translucent sexiness in the UI is as dead as a sack of doorknobs. Pity.
That update will have to wait for a while because I'm out of town.
Has anyone tested the hack on 10.5.5 to see if it still works -- ignoring for the moment the iTunes 8 "bug"? (I don't suppose they've slipped in a fix for that.)
I tried to run the translucent menu hack again on 10.5.5 (knowing full well that iTunes would bitch and moan), wanting to see what would happen and to analyze the differences between the SArtFile.bin, CoreUI and HIToolbox archives of 10.5.5 and 10.5.1 (the last translucent release). Alas, I borked my system and will now have to restore the proper versions of those three files with time machine. The machine boots, but only gets to a blue screen, then falls into an infinite loop of attempting to load the loginwindow and failing.
It is possible to restore certain files from time machine when booting from the Leopard DVD, right? Or do I have to restore the entire volume (which would be a pain in the ass, all the programs would loose registration, etc...)? Good thing my Windows 2008 partition still boots just fine (although I've managed to bork up many a vista installations goofing around in the name of experimentation as well).
It is possible to restore certain files from time machine when booting from the Leopard DVD, right? Or do I have to restore the entire volume (which would be a pain in the ass, all the programs would loose registration, etc...)? Good thing my Windows 2008 partition still boots just fine (although I've managed to bork up many a vista installations goofing around in the name of experimentation as well).
I've never tried it but in theory booting from the Leopard DVD and then using Time Machine to copy back those files individually where they belong does sound like the easiest, most user friendly solution.
If you backed up working files on HD manually before trying the hack, another method would be to boot into single-user mode, then copy those working files back, ensuring that permissions and ownership are correct.
If you backed up working files on HD manually before trying the hack, another method would be to boot into single-user mode, then copy those working files back, ensuring that permissions and ownership are correct.
I normally use sudo via an admin's account, an extra layer of security as my everyday user is not a sudoer. In the CLI, I have to su to the admin's account first to use sudo.
Riemann's machine is/was hosed to the point that he could not reach the login screen, which is why I suggested single user mode as an alternative, although booting from the DVD and using Time Machine would be more user friendly.
Nope
Is it just me or did 10.5.6 revert back to being a little more translucent?
It looks like something changed. I also got a new MBP so maybe the new screen makes things looks a little different to me. I tend to tilt the screen back a bit further with the new MBP making translucency that's left stand out.
As I recall the original level of menu translucency was similar to dialogs which didn't change, like the "Your software is up to date" translucent dialog over the Software Update window.
With 10.5.6, if I put the aforementioned dialog side-by-side with a translucent menu, the menu's background is whiter but otherwise the level of translucency between the two seems pretty close.
Nope
Is it just me or did 10.5.6 revert back to being a little more translucent?
It looks like something changed. I also got a new MBP so maybe the new screen makes things looks a little different to me. I tend to tilt the screen back a bit further with the new MBP making translucency that's left stand out.
As I recall the original level of menu translucency was similar to dialogs which didn't change, like the "Your software is up to date" translucent dialog over the Software Update window.
With 10.5.6, if I put the aforementioned dialog side-by-side with a translucent menu, the menu's background is whiter but otherwise the level of translucency between the two seems pretty close.
Hmm... have you tried applying the mod after updating to 10.5.6?
I gave up on and removed the hack when it prevented me from upgrading to iTunes 8. I guess nothing has changed in 10.5.6 but mileage may vary depending on the screen you're looking at.
Frankly, I prefer the menus to be opaque.
In fact, I arrived here googling for a way to disable the "annoying" translucency.
A translucent window makes sense for a warning that comes and disappears by itself. It could cover some important information you need to see. But with a menu, for the couple of seconds where it shows, your attention is focused on the menu, so it should show with maximum readability, which is opaque. Seeing what is behind is slightly distracting.
Well, IMHO.
In fact, I arrived here googling for a way to disable the "annoying" translucency.
A translucent window makes sense for a warning that comes and disappears by itself. It could cover some important information you need to see. But with a menu, for the couple of seconds where it shows, your attention is focused on the menu, so it should show with maximum readability, which is opaque. Seeing what is behind is slightly distracting.
Well, IMHO.
