Warbrain
macrumors 603
He won't do that because they won't value one provider over another. It's not like exclusivity is transferring.
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He won't do that because they won't value one provider over another. It's not like exclusivity is transferring.
jav6454
macrumors Core
Gizmodo has been banned from other places as well. Like CES for instance, all thanks to their Engadget jokes and the TV-be-gone joke. So yeah, their non-presence is not significance of Apple event. You only wish to see what you wan to see.
There is more stuff Verizon can announce around their LTE plans, again you are just seeing what you want to see.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
Really? Like what? What is left that would be so significant that it requires it's own event?
You aren't truly still in denial about this are you?
JoJoCal19
macrumors 65816
I'd like to see both companies compete for customers...maybe get better data plans, text plans, voice...who knows...competition always works out for the customers.
asleep
macrumors 68040
I'll give you a call from my VeriPhone...
Of course it'll just go straight to voicemail.
We can still text, though.
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polishmacuser
macrumors 6502a
if this happens, will I A.Be able to actually have good coverage and B. be able to use it worlwide unlocked? If so hell with AT&T 😀 I dont care if I have to pay for my unlock but as long as i can go to europe and use my iPhone and come back to the states and have reliable coverage, then I'm onboard until my contract expires -__-
Applejuiced
macrumors Westmere
A. Good coverage depends on your local area.
B. No, the Verizon iphone probably will be a CDMA phone so it wont work in Europe. Unless they include both CDMA and GSM radios inside the phone but I highly doubt that.
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drummingcraig
macrumors 6502a
IF there is a Verizon iPhone released, I think we'll see an initial surge of sales mainly from the current Verizon folks who have been holding out and have never owned an iPhone, and the folks who have a 3G/3Gs and are out of contract with ATT. I seriously doubt many people are going to pay ATT the termination fee PLUS the cost of a new device just to jump ship. Of course there is sure to be a few that do, but not a "mass exodus".
I get a laugh reading these threads. Since the iPhone is currently on AT&T and this is a Mac/Apple forum, of course all of you are going to support AT&T...and a majority of the people posting aside from the few with a brain in this thread throw as much crap at the Verizon network as the Verizon people throw at the AT&T network.
I dont understand why so many of you care about the iPhone going to Verizon, its not leaving AT&T so stop whining about it. No one is forcing you to go to Verizon and there are only good things that can come from it. More smart phones on Verizon and they will hopefully follow AT&Ts $15 data plan...this will cause AT&T to do something and so on.
They are both networks, they both have there ups and downs and they both have different coverage levels in different areas.
I dont understand why so many of you care about the iPhone going to Verizon, its not leaving AT&T so stop whining about it. No one is forcing you to go to Verizon and there are only good things that can come from it. More smart phones on Verizon and they will hopefully follow AT&Ts $15 data plan...this will cause AT&T to do something and so on.
They are both networks, they both have there ups and downs and they both have different coverage levels in different areas.
polishmacuser
macrumors 6502a
Well all my friends who have verizon just always have coverage and I sometimes do not even when i switch to edge.
B. Well would they not have it, plus the leaked photos have a microsim slot either way, but who knows we will find out.
Hypothetically speaking now if it did have worldwide roaming, would verizon be willing to give an unlock code?
RetiredInFl
macrumors 68020
One can EASILY sell their AT&T iPhone and make more than enough to cover any ETF's and maybe even enough to pay for the Verizon replacement as well. That's not an issue.
Southern Dad
macrumors 68000
I will definitely have to think hard and long about switching to Verizon once they have the iPhone 4 shipping. Currently I use an iPhone 3GS and while I've thought about upgrading to the 4 things like Verizon getting it make me pause.
Where I live now, AT&T coverage is spotty. AT&T's solution? I spend a $150 on a device called a MicroCell and then have awesome coverage at home. Which I did by the way because I love my iPhone.
You throw another player into the mix that offers the iPhone and I'm going to be thinking about it. You give a turn in credit or a sign on credit for dumping my AT&T iPhone and it won't take much of a choice. My early termination fee is only $115 and goes down by $5 each month.
AT&T has basically treated us as captive customers for years and now they may have an issue to face that could impact the bottom line.
Where I live now, AT&T coverage is spotty. AT&T's solution? I spend a $150 on a device called a MicroCell and then have awesome coverage at home. Which I did by the way because I love my iPhone.
You throw another player into the mix that offers the iPhone and I'm going to be thinking about it. You give a turn in credit or a sign on credit for dumping my AT&T iPhone and it won't take much of a choice. My early termination fee is only $115 and goes down by $5 each month.
AT&T has basically treated us as captive customers for years and now they may have an issue to face that could impact the bottom line.
Do we just create our own facts? or are we just too young to remember history?
This at&t is a pale comparison to the original AT&T, who I had for years before SWB Wireless/Cingular "bought" and rebranded AT&T.
From wikipedia:
Cingular Wireless LLC was founded in 2000 as a joint venture of SBC Communications and BellSouth. The joint venture created the nation's second-largest carrier. Cingular grew out of a conglomeration of more than 100 companies [6], with 12 well-known regional companies with Bell roots. The 12 companies included:
* Three companies spun off from Advanced Mobile Phone Service, Inc.
o Ameritech Mobile Communications, LLt
o BellSouth Mobility, LLC
o Southwestern Bell Mobile Systems, Inc.
* BellSouth Mobility DCS, Inc.
* BellSouth Wireless Data, LLC
* CCPR Services Inc. d/b/a Cellular One of Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands
* Pacific Bell Wireless, LLC
* Pacific Bell Wireless Northwest, LLC
* SBC Wireless, LLC
* SNET Mobility, LLC
* Southwestern Bell Wireless, Inc.
SBC Wireless had previously operated in several northeast markets under the "Cellular One" brand, while BellSouth's wireless operations incorporated the former Houston Cellular.
Cingular's lineage can be traced back to Advanced Mobile Phone Service, which was a subsidiary of AT&T created in 1978 to provide cellular service nationwide. AMPS, Inc. was divided among the Regional Bell Operating Companies as part of the Bell System divestiture.
With the exception of Pacific Bell and BellSouth Mobility DCS, the digital network consisted of D-AMPS technology. The Pacific Bell and BellSouth Mobility DCS networks used GSM technology on the PCS frequency band (1900 MHz).
In February 2004, after a bidding war with Britain's Vodafone Plc (45% owners of Verizon Wireless) Cingular announced that it would purchase its struggling competitor, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc., for $41 billion.
A lot of people will leave, but nothing that will kill AT&T.
I'm sure a lot of current Verizon customers will upgrade the iPhone though. A LOT.
I'm sure a lot of current Verizon customers will upgrade the iPhone though. A LOT.
jav6454
macrumors Core
We are not talking about the old AT&T. We are talking down to pre-iPhone AT&T, which at that time was known as Cingular not before that.
They were the biggest wireless (bigger than Verizon Wireless) BEFORE the iPhone was ever announced. Reason for this fact mentioning is that Verizon schills like to scream on how good Verizon is and how their network is perfect and everyone wants on it; well not so much since Verizon had to buy their rank as #1 with subscribers rather than earn them as AT&T has. AT&T, rather cingular EARNED all 70 Million of those subscribers, so some thing tells me they are doing something right.
That's the main point here... but you missed it by a loooong shot.
Do you HONESTLY believe that they're not announcing the iPhone for Verizon on Tuesday or are you just trying to be annoying? I mean, we've got Gruber 100% backing it up saying that it's for sure the iPhone-on-Verizon announcement; we've got about a hundred different sources pointing out the same thing. Hell, we've got AT&T saying that the iPhone on Verizon will be slower because GSM is a superior technology.
There's just no way you can honestly believe it's not coming on Tuesday. I refuse to believe you believe that.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
You're honestly gonna ignore all the mergers that made up AT&T as well? The ONLY homegrown network is Sprint. Both Verizon and AT&T are the products of aquisitions and mergers. They both owe there rankings as #1 & #2 to this.
jav6454
macrumors Core
And T-Mobile is left where? Also, AT&T mergers were from companies that were part of AT&T at one point or another but split in 1985...
Although Verizon did also form from a baby bell....
BTW, your USB price quote is waiting for you in the other thread.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
I forget where T-Mobile came from. They suck anyway. 😛
Thanks for the info BTW. :thumbsup:
ipodlover77
macrumors 65816
my only problem with this whole fiasco is the fact that people come out the wood work to bash AT&T non stop. the whole "my iphone can finally make calls" nonsense needs to chill out. yes, there are areas that verizon excels but at the same time, there are areas where verizon can't hold a signal and AT&T can.
reading the endless "verizon is SO MUCH better" blah blah blah is just tiresome. the posts regarding switching to verizon because they get no service where they are is acceptable but i feel as if many of the negative feedback that is written on the board is from verizon fanboys who are just spitting back out what others say.
am i with att? yes. would i like to try verizon? yes. both carriers are excellent and they both have their plus's and minus's. its just sad that people have to bash the other carrier for no reason. and MAYBE this is a bit biased but im seeing a bit more verizon customers, now that the iphone is finally releasing for them, coming out and verbally abusing att. yeah we MIGHT drop more calls than verizon but verizon drops calls too at times. its as if people think that ATT drops 1 out of 3 calls.
reading the endless "verizon is SO MUCH better" blah blah blah is just tiresome. the posts regarding switching to verizon because they get no service where they are is acceptable but i feel as if many of the negative feedback that is written on the board is from verizon fanboys who are just spitting back out what others say.
am i with att? yes. would i like to try verizon? yes. both carriers are excellent and they both have their plus's and minus's. its just sad that people have to bash the other carrier for no reason. and MAYBE this is a bit biased but im seeing a bit more verizon customers, now that the iphone is finally releasing for them, coming out and verbally abusing att. yeah we MIGHT drop more calls than verizon but verizon drops calls too at times. its as if people think that ATT drops 1 out of 3 calls.
Southern Dad
macrumors 68000
I am just glad that there will now be a choice. I like AT&T for being able to use my iPhone for web surfing/email while I am on the phone. However, AT&T has had a monopoly on the device and has used that to its advantage. In my personal experience after the upgrade to OS4 my service declined to the point I couldn't get service at home. AT&T's solution as I said earlier was for ME to buy a $150 device to have service at home. Now if AT&T had said, "We have a device that will fix this problem for you, we'll send you one on us." I'd probably have a better attitude toward them.
What I'd love to see is phone service providers that aren't scared of the subscriber leaving. Service providers that don't need a ETF because they fix the problems and have decent customer service so you will want to stay.
What I'd love to see is phone service providers that aren't scared of the subscriber leaving. Service providers that don't need a ETF because they fix the problems and have decent customer service so you will want to stay.
So, I am guessing, if I want to only consider the history to where VZW buys Alltel...........oh, come on. REALLY? Pick the facts that support your version?????
Here is some more for you to ignore:
On June 30, 2000, the addition of GTE Wireless' assets, in connection with the merger of Bell Atlantic and GTE to form Verizon Communications, made Verizon Wireless the nation's largest wireless communications provider. Verizon held that position until Cingular's acquisition of AT&T Wireless in 2004, and again after their acquisition of Alltel in 2009.
And, my point, which you missed, or ignored, was that if SWB Wireless/Cingular had not bought/merged with AT&T.....