The end of Safari???

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What's better Firefox or Safari?

  1. Firefox

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  2. Safari

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  1. hmorris macrumors member

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    With the release of Firefox version 3 I've realized that Safari is well, pretty *****y. You can't browse the web full screen which is pretty annoying. Bookmark are completely useless. And most of all it has no add-ons. And it's not open sourced.
     
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  4. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    Safari still displays webpages much faster, has a much better GUI (no matter what theme you put on firefox it's still ugly as sin), safari has better integration with OS X, safari is the default browser for Macs (giving it the smug appeal)

    In the end they're both just web browsers. So what if Firefox has more add ons? So what if Safari integrates with keychain? If these pros and cons sway you one way or the other then use that browser.

    For me: I'm sticking with Safari, Firefox still isn't fully web standard compliant, it's ugly, I have zero use for any add ons, and I like the GUI.
     
  5. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I never browse the web full screen, bookmarks work the same and add-ons are mostly just useless bloat, and unless you are a developer, open-source is overrated, especially in this case because Safari is free.
     
  6. hmorris thread starter macrumors member

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    Gui???

    Have you ever heard of Safari themes, they exist.
     
  7. ZiggyPastorius macrumors 68040

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    Doesn't matter about any of that stuff, because the fact of the matter is, Opera is a million times better.

    Though if you do switch to Firefox, better for the Safari users. I hear less users makes Safari snappier :D
     
  8. hmorris thread starter macrumors member

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    Open Source suks

    I'm pretty sure Firefox 3 is way faster. Open source is great because it allows u to add personal touches to your browser. Firefox 3 has smart bookmarks that u can easily file.
     
  9. Me1000 macrumors 68000

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    As long as Firefox uses the Gecko rendering engine instead of Webkit, Safari will always have the upper hand.

    Safari is faster, and just as reliable. Safari has beautiful typography, Safari scrolls soooo much smoother.

    Dont get me wrong, Firefox is an awesome browser and it will always be my browser of choice on Windows. On OS X though I will be an avid Safari user.

    If Firefox is rewritten to use the webkit rendering engine, and maybe in Cocoa then I think the market on OS X would increase substantially...

    EDIT:

    webkit is open source...
     
  10. Sky Blue Guest

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    With the (future) release of Safari version 4 I've realized that Firefox is well, pretty *****y. RSS is completely useless. And it's ugly. And it's open sourced.
     
  11. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    Hey, I've heard that too.

    Only if you are a programmer, millions and millions of computer users could really care less about customizing the code and recompiling.
     
  12. hmorris thread starter macrumors member

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    I don't get why everyone keeps saying that firefox is ugly. If u want it to look like safari then u can get a theme of safari. That proves how gr8 open sourcing and add-ons are. RSS is not useless at all instead of checking a website everyday u can go to the RSS feed and check if there is any new content if there is then u can go to the website and read it. This is especially gr8 for ppl with slow internet because thay won't have to load the website each time!!
     
  13. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    That's why they make dedicated RSS Readers that do this job better and faster.
     
  14. hmorris thread starter macrumors member

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    I'm not sure if any of u guys have actually tries firefox 3. You don't have to be a programmer 2 download an add-on, it's as simple as pressing the download button!!
     
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    I had to laugh at this.
     
  16. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    really? You're 'pretty sure'? Because you're totally wrong. Gecko isn't even as fast as IE (what's the IE web engine called?) right now, let alone Webkit.

    Since when is Webkit not opensource? Sure you can't add themes to Safari, but it's pretty beautiful now, I can't think of a theme I'd rather have for Safari, all the themes for Firefox are ugly, and some are on the buggy side.
     
  17. hmorris thread starter macrumors member

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    faster not so much better perhaps but i don't think that just cuz there's RSS on firefox that u shouldn't b using it as i said b4 there are many other gr8 features.
     
  18. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I have, its slow and there are other quirks I dont like about it. Open source has nothing to do with addons ...
     
  19. hmorris thread starter macrumors member

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    tell me some of those other "quirks"
     
  20. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    but you have to be a programmer to add that 'personal touch' you were talking about. Sure you can just download some of the crap that's out there, but it's not going to make it any better of a user experience. Firefox is great on Windows and Linux, but it's just not as Mac friendly as it should be.

    EDIT: I take it back, Firefox is okay on Windows, but there are many other great browsers for Windows that I'd rather use, like Opera. Even on Linux Opera would still be my first choice.
     
  21. clevin macrumors G3

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    it doesn't matter how many times you repeat a lie, it won't become truth.
    Its laughable, Do you even know anything about web standard? What is "fully" compliant? do you even have any idea how many standard and how many individual items out there?

    Its time for thee type of false statements to stop. I would be glad to open a web standard compliant thread if you want these type of thing.

    you can like whatever browser you like for whatever reason, just don't spread lies around.
    Actually Firefox on OSX doesn't support full screen yet, Opera is the only major browsers on OSX that can do full screen.
    Firefox 3 for mac is written in cocoa.

    Webkit doesn't offer many fundamental features firefox does, and its already 150% the size of firefox.

    And I doubt firefox's OSX market share can increase substantially just by doing what you suggested. how much markethare does Omniweb, shiira have? Safari has bigger share is mostly because of system bundling, its simple. Just like IE still has 70+% shares, not because its specially good, but because its pre-installed by default.
     
  22. GSMiller macrumors 68000

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    After using Safari I can't use anything else. Nothing is integrated into OS X better than Safari. Firefox doesn't use the Apple Dictionary and has a sub par looking Aqua theme. The only thing that annoys me about Safari is how Google is so heavily integrated to it but it's all about personal opinion.
     
  23. ZiggyPastorius macrumors 68040

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    As I said before, none of this matters because Opera is better than Safari or Firefox. Opera was the first one to implement tabbed browsing, Opera was the first, and one of the only ones still to implement Mouse gestures, and Opera is constantly innovating our Browsing experience -- Firefox is usually playing the catch-up game. Opera is Open source, and just as customisable as Firefox. Funny thing is...Opera has most of those add-on features when you get it! And it's still lighter and faster! :D

    Edit: Crap, Clevin's here...He's going to mess up my Opera fanboy tirading ;.;

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    Ha! I win again! :D
     
  24. hmorris thread starter macrumors member

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    how is it not mac friendly???
     
  25. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    If you type a domain in the address bar and hit enter, it searches for it instead of trying to add .com and going directly to the site. It does not render sites as fast and I dont like how it handles downloads, esp. pdfs (yes I know there is an addon, but it still downloads the pdf, even though I just want to read it.)
     

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