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do not agree. Propriety source doesn't reduce that chance of *** up, all it does is hide the *** up from public.
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but have you ever clicked the little bookmark icon in the top left of Safari?Three things I cant stand in Safari.
No side bar on the left. My Wife and I both used the sidebar a lot on Windows in IE for Fav's or History and so when we switched Safari does not have that and its Favorite bar at the top is joke.
No Sorting of book marks. I have a lot of book marks and a simple sort feature would be nice.
One click in the URL or Search bar to highlight. Safari requires a triple click, or click at the far left on the icon/button. Sorry ever other browser, including Safari in Windows has this option.
For all of them, I just want an option not a forced change just an option to pull these three items off in Safari. If Safari had them I would never use FF3. FF3 is good browser, but when I go to pages that wont load I bust out Safari. Also FF3 tends to get wierd after a few hours of use, and if one page in one tab has problems I often have to quit the app and all tabs go down.
No side bar on the left. My Wife and I both used the sidebar a lot on Windows in IE for Fav's or History and so when we switched Safari does not have that and its Favorite bar at the top is joke.
No Sorting of book marks. I have a lot of book marks and a simple sort feature would be nice.
One click in the URL or Search bar to highlight. Safari requires a triple click, or click at the far left on the icon/button. Sorry ever other browser, including Safari in Windows has this option.
For all of them, I just want an option not a forced change just an option to pull these three items off in Safari. If Safari had them I would never use FF3. FF3 is good browser, but when I go to pages that wont load I bust out Safari. Also FF3 tends to get wierd after a few hours of use, and if one page in one tab has problems I often have to quit the app and all tabs go down.
multi-thread is a planned change in firefox 4. I hope enough people keeps it as a priority.
firefox will auto restore all your tabs when you do force quit.
If problem keeps happening, you might want to try a new profile for firefox, since the case you described should not be normal.
1. Most sites end in .com, no they don't. Not sure if you have an atlas but there is .cn, .co.uk, .fr, .co.nz, all of which are used by people in those countries as much as .com. So if you want an international browser, capable of working with everyone, then perhaps it would be sensible to take, oh I don't know, 90%+ of the worlds population and their browsing into account?
2. I am still curious about what is meant by the accusation that Firefox is not as well integrated into the Mac OsX and so ruins peoples browsing experience? Personally, the fact that Safari keeps setting itself as my default browser whenever I use it, really hacks me off. I choose my default browser, not the damn browser.
3. As for the arguement about customisation, why should I be limited by the limited minds of the safari developers? Why can I not have the ability to customise the browser to make it the best I can for what I do, not what Apple says I do?
4. As for speed tests, how about this one? http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Clock_Browser_Speeds_with_Webmonkey_s_Stopwatch
Done this year and by a bunch of people who tend to be more pro mac than anything else.
5. It would be interesting to see if Apple were forced to include other browsers on their platform as a default so that people did not have to download them, how many people would still use Safari? (same for windows)
6. and finally, does it really matter? I hate to end on a weak, nice note, but you use the browser you like the best. I accept that Opera is faster, better than anything else. I just prefer Firefox, end of story.
2. I am still curious about what is meant by the accusation that Firefox is not as well integrated into the Mac OsX and so ruins peoples browsing experience? Personally, the fact that Safari keeps setting itself as my default browser whenever I use it, really hacks me off. I choose my default browser, not the damn browser.
3. As for the arguement about customisation, why should I be limited by the limited minds of the safari developers? Why can I not have the ability to customise the browser to make it the best I can for what I do, not what Apple says I do?
4. As for speed tests, how about this one? http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Clock_Browser_Speeds_with_Webmonkey_s_Stopwatch
Done this year and by a bunch of people who tend to be more pro mac than anything else.
5. It would be interesting to see if Apple were forced to include other browsers on their platform as a default so that people did not have to download them, how many people would still use Safari? (same for windows)
6. and finally, does it really matter? I hate to end on a weak, nice note, but you use the browser you like the best. I accept that Opera is faster, better than anything else. I just prefer Firefox, end of story.
I've used it on countless occasions to find a webpage I visited a while back and all I can remember are keywords. I certainly don't use it to get to sites I know!
Why can't you sort them? You can drag them around and do what you want with them in Safari. I have folders and folders of bookmarks. They all appear in the order I want them to appear, even the bookmarks within the folders located in my bookmarks bar, which I can also sort to my liking. I'm confused as to what you can't 'sort'.
Because it's just a factless claim. People need to give Safari a chance. Two of my friends who are 'switchers' immediately downloaded Firefox and never gave Safari a chance. I used Firefox as my main browser for years until a couple months before Safari 3 beta came out. I was very impressed with Safari since I couldn't care less about Firefox's addons.
I've just found something else out about Safari and sorting bookmarks. Adjusting the list in the bookmarks window auto swaps the order they appear in the bookmarks bar. It kind of makes sense but I never noticed it before. I usually command click and drag the bookmarks in the bar.
Sorting, as you can click the column title to order your bookmarks by name, by last visited date, by the times you visited it, by when you added it, etc. dragging around.... hard to imagine when you have 100+ bookmarks.
factless? I haven't found safari being able to do so (granted, not a function I frequent use anyway), please enlighten me.
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Full screen is for Windows, you don't know how to use Bookmarks, add-ons are mindless drivel. Also, Google Inquisitor.
The IE for Windows engine is called Trident, and the Mac version (which is used internally by Office: Mac, no longer available separately) is called Tasman.
If you're looking for a more customizable Safari-like browser, give little Shiira a try.
No offence clevin but that didn't make any sense at all.
What do you mean?
take a look at my previous screenshot, you can click those "name" "locations" "tags" " Visit Date" etc. All bookmarks will be re-arranged automatically according to the item you clicked.
i.e., when you click "visit count", your most visit page will be placed at the top of the list.
are there more subjective statement you can make? oh this is for windows, oh thats because you are dumb, can we engage in some meaningful talk w/o making useless statements?
Inquisitor? sure, btw, google peers, searchery as well.
Ok I got it, but lets be honest that is quite trivial and Safari does allow for individual management of items. I never use the bookmarks window anyway I have everything sorted so my bookmarks menu has two click access to every single bookmark I have.
EDIT: Sorry 3 click because I now utilise folders.
I already talked a little about shiira in one of my previous posts, but thanks anyway.
well, I agree this is a trivial function, with awesomebar, I don't really use any bookmark anymore.
But it indeed is a function that previous poster mentioned. Im sure bookmark-users who got a ton of bookmarks will find it somewhat useful.
I use FF3 every day at work and I still find it a bit buggy. My major complaint is the "Awesome Bar". While it is nice to see a listing of the sites I've gone to, I want them to auto-complete, so I don't have have to arrow down to get to the site I want. If it is at the top of the list, I want to hit enter and have it load. Safari does this, although I'm annoyed as to how it keeps the domain in the auto complete, instead of the actual page that I visited or the bookmark I have.
So both have room for improvement.
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So both have room for improvement.
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Gah, I wasn't paying attention when I posted, and failed to see that this thread had 3 pages... so I was responding to what I thought was the only page of posts. Pardon my stupidity and ignorance.
Anyway... with Safari 4 around the corner, metaphorically speaking, I fail to see how Safari will just go away. I like Safari, because of some features it has that I haven't seen in any other browsers.
I actively use both Safari 3 and Firefox 3. And both have their plus points. The only gripe I have with Firefox is that you *have* to get addons to get the functionality which is available with safari from the get go. One example of course would be inline pdf's but thats not all. I agree that Firefox 3 is a much better browser now compared to Firefox 2 so much so that I'm constantly switching between Sf3 and FF3 as my default browser. Oh, and Safari does load pages faster. Just that it seems slower. Just take a look at macrumors guide on speeding up safari and look also on the explanation why safari seems slower than gecko based browsers here
The other thing that bugs me with Firefox now is that it takes much much longer to start up than Safari. One bounce with Safari, like 4~5 bounces with Firefox. Not much I know but when you just need that quick peek at some info on the web that time adds up. Oh and by the way, if you want fullscreen viewing and much more in Safari, take a look at glims. Have a pleasant day
Edit: Oh and another thing. Firefox's autocomplete isn't really like Safari's. Eg:
This is Firefox3's autocomplete. Not so complete.
You have to add in the "www." for it to work on most sites :S
This is Safari's autocomplete as we know it
The other thing that bugs me with Firefox now is that it takes much much longer to start up than Safari. One bounce with Safari, like 4~5 bounces with Firefox. Not much I know but when you just need that quick peek at some info on the web that time adds up. Oh and by the way, if you want fullscreen viewing and much more in Safari, take a look at glims. Have a pleasant day
Edit: Oh and another thing. Firefox's autocomplete isn't really like Safari's. Eg:
This is Firefox3's autocomplete. Not so complete.
You have to add in the "www." for it to work on most sites :S
This is Safari's autocomplete as we know it