Is the key part. I don't think anybody here is suggesting you dump Granny at the care home the minute she asks you to pick up a pint of milk for her.
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The End Of Your Life
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Some of you might wonder how on Earth did I knew that my origin was from another planet? 😊
Well, the whole story behind it feels too private to get into. I'm pretty selective what I share on-line - more and more actually these days.
But I had a NDE (Near-Death-Experience) - this (not mine however) can be read about - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience
Discussing these things are pretty useless - we can however share things. What people then make of it, is up to each person.
I have not anything against various and/or religious interpretations of how and what Universe, God etc is/are - absolutely not - I've studied Religion at University awhile myself.
There's a lot of different faith's, interpretations, planet's - Universe is a vast place.
That's the beauty of how the consciousness makes itself available, one could say.
Well, the whole story behind it feels too private to get into. I'm pretty selective what I share on-line - more and more actually these days.
But I had a NDE (Near-Death-Experience) - this (not mine however) can be read about - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience
Discussing these things are pretty useless - we can however share things. What people then make of it, is up to each person.
I have not anything against various and/or religious interpretations of how and what Universe, God etc is/are - absolutely not - I've studied Religion at University awhile myself.
There's a lot of different faith's, interpretations, planet's - Universe is a vast place.
That's the beauty of how the consciousness makes itself available, one could say.
If you ever studied the Edgar Cayce Readings, subject Past Life Readings. It would not come as a surprise at all.
He always stated, "the entity took it's flight from ..." upon entering earth. And then the influences was described in listing the planets and character. Starting with the last one, and going back in time, giving each sojourn that had an impact on the individual in the present life.
In saying "my origin", I suppose you are talking about the last sojourn before entering earth, and a physical body.
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This just goes to show you that a human/human mind is a universe of its own. The notion that mastering yourself is the hardest thing to do is all about that.
Flying into space on a barrel with kerosene in order to do "the mastering and the exploration of the universe" looks stone age and very dated at this stage.
Never having experienced one, not that I would wish for one, but I think a NDE might give you a feeling that there could be something more than this mortal life and think that’s great. 🙂
Spoke with someone the other day who brought up NDE, who told me he has a friend who experience one and as relayed to him, most people don’t want to come back, was positive there is definitely a larger picture than this mortal life to experience and that it’s all about 💕. It would be nice if the Earth simulator was a multi-player experience, you could meet up with the close ones afterwards to share a refreshing beverage and talk about what it meant to you.
Spoke with someone the other day who brought up NDE, who told me he has a friend who experience one and as relayed to him, most people don’t want to come back, was positive there is definitely a larger picture than this mortal life to experience and that it’s all about 💕. It would be nice if the Earth simulator was a multi-player experience, you could meet up with the close ones afterwards to share a refreshing beverage and talk about what it meant to you.
Not sure about 'most people don’t wan’t to come back', though - I’ve heard that too though.
But often that is the ego talking, that doesn't want to change, and the soul makes the bigger choices!
The choice is there for many, but the alternative is not clear to most I’ve talked to either.
Reincarnation is very real to me. So flip the coin, or use the given life in best possible way we know how from our soul’s understanding - until the soul is free.
Love is also a big subject with many levels of source, experience and interpretations.
I’ve had been part of NDE-groups, and there’s many versions of experience there as well.
To me a bit too much to get into any further here, on MR from my perspective though.
I recommend that you find another place more focused on your questions around this.
Enjoy your continued search 🙏🏼✨
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I do not like the idea of reincarnation, vs a fast track to “the better place”. Sure, it’s better than oblivion, but you are still playing a pawn in the dark due to a possible adverse roll of the dice is not something I’d look forward to. Of course, the Earth Simulator maybe not the only reality and it might not be a roll of the dice, but a planned evolution. Some believe that reincarnation helps the soul earn xp towards enlightenment.
This idea permeates the doctrines of several Eastern religions, particularly Hinduism and Buddhism, which view reincarnation as a fundamental aspect of the soul’s journey toward liberation and enlightenment (Eliade, 1987). In these traditions, reincarnation is often associated with the law of karma, suggesting that one’s actions in previous lives significantly impact their present and future circumstances (Mookerjee & Khanna, 1996). However, the implications of reincarnation extend beyond religious frameworks, engaging various fields, including psychology and philosophy, thereby enriching discussions on identity, morality, and personal growth.
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You are in a good company - the earth has a myriad of religions, belief-systems etc.
Enjoy your freedom of thought and ideas, until you reach insights beyond the mind, ideas and thoughts.
List of religions and spiritual traditions - Wikipedia
I myself studied Religion at University, etc. etc. - to educate my mind, to bring a larger understanding after my NDE.
Interesting links:
www.livescience.com
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First-ever scan of a dying human brain reveals life may actually 'flash before your eyes'
The accidental finding was made when a man suddenly died during a routine brain scan.
Stephen Hawking - Old Soul and Life Well Lived | Past Lives
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One certainly is faced with a bruised cornucopia of moral considerations/dilemmas in such matters.
My Mom has been in Memory Care for just over a decade, and--while the decision to enter her into such care was not really my decision--I have come to my own peace with such. Her (complete) care cost her roughly USD12K/mo. To her benefit, She was a planner, and did-well in saving for her later years . . . those costs were minimal in the grand scheme of her financial wholeness.
She stopped speaking/opening her eyes over five years ago, and my times with her were filled with my remembrances, stories and tales that I thought she'd appreciate (or even be hearing, in some deep level of her consciousness).
She passed in her sleep two weeks ago, and both my Sister and I have handled it well. One becomes habituated to the potential with such long exposure.
On her last Birthday--as I held her hand in mine--she finally opened her eyes to me . . . they were as clear, and sparkling-blue as they had always been.
*sigh*
I've been exposed to much dying, and some death, in my life.
I lost my Father to un-natural causes two years ago, and it has been difficult. I am still not at peace on that end.
I always pondered the idea that such a hole could never be filled . . . but then--over time--I learned to enter-into the realization that a person's occupation of their living leaves no hole to actually be filled.
Just one cup of hot cocoa in the kitchen on a cold afternoon, uncompleted calls for another's sage advice, a hand un-held, no cord of magical light streaming-through the aka as pupil-greets-pupil, and (though the list could go on, and on, and...) not being able to share exciting new re-evolutions in my Living.
These Spaces are now just years-of-memories that continue to kindle candles we can huddle-around for clarity and warmth when the light that surrounds us grows dim.
I was having a convo with one of my fellow Instructors last week, and She said "Well, now you're an orphan."
Yes, I was once an orphan.
Then, my Mom&Dad adopted me.
Now, I'm an orphan again 🤷♂️
Another bittersweet bookend to prop-up the Library of my existence!
One of my favorite authors (David Zindell) once wrote:
I'm getting ready to enter my sixth decade living in this beautiful/scary/wonderful/awful/complete World, and my new Re-Birth is as exciting, vital and totally-fantastic as they all have been.
I'm eagerly anticipating the next six decades, and the six-million that will surely follow, after
My Mom has been in Memory Care for just over a decade, and--while the decision to enter her into such care was not really my decision--I have come to my own peace with such. Her (complete) care cost her roughly USD12K/mo. To her benefit, She was a planner, and did-well in saving for her later years . . . those costs were minimal in the grand scheme of her financial wholeness.
She stopped speaking/opening her eyes over five years ago, and my times with her were filled with my remembrances, stories and tales that I thought she'd appreciate (or even be hearing, in some deep level of her consciousness).
She passed in her sleep two weeks ago, and both my Sister and I have handled it well. One becomes habituated to the potential with such long exposure.
On her last Birthday--as I held her hand in mine--she finally opened her eyes to me . . . they were as clear, and sparkling-blue as they had always been.
*sigh*
I've been exposed to much dying, and some death, in my life.
I lost my Father to un-natural causes two years ago, and it has been difficult. I am still not at peace on that end.
I always pondered the idea that such a hole could never be filled . . . but then--over time--I learned to enter-into the realization that a person's occupation of their living leaves no hole to actually be filled.
Just one cup of hot cocoa in the kitchen on a cold afternoon, uncompleted calls for another's sage advice, a hand un-held, no cord of magical light streaming-through the aka as pupil-greets-pupil, and (though the list could go on, and on, and...) not being able to share exciting new re-evolutions in my Living.
These Spaces are now just years-of-memories that continue to kindle candles we can huddle-around for clarity and warmth when the light that surrounds us grows dim.
I was having a convo with one of my fellow Instructors last week, and She said "Well, now you're an orphan."
Yes, I was once an orphan.
Then, my Mom&Dad adopted me.
Now, I'm an orphan again 🤷♂️
Another bittersweet bookend to prop-up the Library of my existence!
One of my favorite authors (David Zindell) once wrote:
I'm getting ready to enter my sixth decade living in this beautiful/scary/wonderful/awful/complete World, and my new Re-Birth is as exciting, vital and totally-fantastic as they all have been.
I'm eagerly anticipating the next six decades, and the six-million that will surely follow, after
One certainly is faced with a bruised cornucopia of moral considerations/dilemmas in such matters.
My Mom has been in Memory Care for just over a decade, and--while the decision to enter her into such care was not really my decision--I have come to my own peace with such. Her (complete) care cost her roughly USD12K/mo. To her benefit, She was a planner, and did-well in saving for her later years . . . those costs were minimal in the grand scheme of her financial wholeness.
She stopped speaking/opening her eyes over five years ago, and my times with her were filled with my remembrances, stories and tales that I thought she'd appreciate (or even be hearing, in some deep level of her consciousness).
She passed in her sleep two weeks ago, and both my Sister and I have handled it well. One becomes habituated to the potential with such long exposure.
On her last Birthday--as I held her hand in mine--she finally opened her eyes to me . . . they were as clear, and sparkling-blue as they had always been.
*sigh*
I've been exposed to much dying, and some death, in my life.
I lost my Father to un-natural causes two years ago, and it has been difficult. I am still not at peace on that end.
I always pondered the idea that such a hole could never be filled . . . but then--over time--I learned to enter-into the realization that a person's occupation of their living leaves no hole to actually be filled.
Just one cup of hot cocoa in the kitchen on a cold afternoon, uncompleted calls for another's sage advice, a hand un-held, no cord of magical light streaming-through the aka as pupil-greets-pupil, and (though the list could go on, and on, and...) not being able to share exciting new re-evolutions in my Living.
These Spaces are now just years-of-memories that continue to kindle candles we can huddle-around for clarity and warmth when the light that surrounds us grows dim.
I was having a convo with one of my fellow Instructors last week, and She said "Well, now you're an orphan."
Yes, I was once an orphan.
Then, my Mom&Dad adopted me.
Now, I'm an orphan again 🤷♂️
Another bittersweet bookend to prop-up the Library of my existence!
One of my favorite authors (David Zindell) once wrote:
I'm getting ready to enter my sixth decade living in this beautiful/scary/wonderful/awful/complete World, and my new Re-Birth is as exciting, vital and totally-fantastic as they all have been.
I'm eagerly anticipating the next six decades, and the six-million that will surely follow, after
$12k per month, holy smokes. This is not judgment, just an observation of what the cost of complete care could be for an individual, something a social safety net would be good for. Indirectly, it could be considered an argument for having a large or a coherent family net, although those don’t seem to be a certainty or financially practical either these days.
I agree that taken with the right perspective, this life is an amazing experience.
At this point in my life, I am cautiously certain that this is just one leg of a journey. I hope that a link remains to the people in my life who I call family, and close friends, but that is by no mean certain. As I’ve said before I can’t determine if this is a multiplayer or a solo game, but I would hope for the former. 😉
This is not a sign of anxiety, just curiosity, and a preference. 🙂 I think there is a significant positive impact on your outlook if you view your existence as a series of steps that this life is just one part of versus being a sole, once in an infinity, timeline hiccup. The former option offers hope, allows for optimism, and has a significant positive
impact on how you view your current life. For a long time, I’ve said if this life is all there is, if everyone ends up dead, what’s the point? 🤔
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Yuup. FT; 26/8
Since we're sharing Space talking about this, "Definitely multi-"
Same. Some of the most-enduring, precious moments in my interactions with Mom revolved around Her expressions of the same.
Singularlt-surpring, was her description of the 4th-decade Realization of her Body Consciousness. It seemed odd to me, at the time, as I had easily walked-past that mile-marker decades earlier....
On that note: my Fifties have been the dense-chocolate coating atop the cream of my Living . . . I cannot ever imagine melting into an existence that does not leave me with a lasting, satisfied smile...
Have you never met people that you instantly feel good about, or very uncomfortable with?
To give an example in a movie. Did you ever watch Cloud Atlas? I think they nailed it.
I moved to Sweden 25 years ago, and I met one woman once while studying at the University. Even if we never sat down and talked, I kept having a feeling that I knew her somehow. So I asked her one time, if we had met before. Turned out she was from a region in Sweden I have not visited. So she just shrugged, and said; Well it must have been in a past life then.
I worked for half a year in one area. Taking the bus to the nearest city a couple of times. Two small children ran to the back of the bus were I was sitting, and talked with me. The second time it happened, I asked their mother, who was sitting in the front of the bus, if they had a relative that looked like me? Nope, and she had no idea why they liked to talk to me, as they didn't do it with other strangers.
I believe we come here in groups. And we sometimes run into those people for no obvious reasons.
On the flip side, we can even have family members who we have no past connection to.
But are we, seriously?🙃Yuup. FT; 26/8
Since we're sharing Space talking about this, "Definitely multi-"
My argument based on hypotheticals- It this is a simulation and my psyche, is ported in for my personal adventure there could be several possibilities. You likewise could be ported in as another, for lack of a better term “soul” like me as part of a joint adventure, or whoever you are are piped in playing a part in a play, or you could be just part of the AI simulation, a most realistic simulation. I’ll reference solipsism for the purpose of a philosophical chat. 🙂
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Solipsism, in philosophy, an extreme form of subjective idealism that denies that the human mind has any valid ground for believing in the existence of anything but itself. The British idealist F.H. Bradley, in Appearance and Reality (1893), characterized the solipsistic view as follows: Presented
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Reincarnation could definitely be a thing. What gave me a distinct push was the story of Police Chief Robert Snow we discussed previously
I’ll reinforce that I have made no determinations, and am in pure speculation mode, except for one element. I have reached the point which I can call belief, that this mortal life is not all there is. It may be self-serving, but it makes no logical sense to me (and apologies for repeating myself) if this life has no purpose. My definition of purpose is that we’re here to learn or experience something, and to be changed by it. And for there to be purpose, there has to be a continuation of consciousness, so one can build on that experience.
Despite my belief, I’ll concede it’s possible that in an infinite timeline, we came to be for the equivalent of 2 microseconds of consciousness, just to return to our normal state of non-existence. That makes no sense to me, but it could be my self interest speaking.😊
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I wholeheartedly agree in this.
I see that continuation in many places. How people show well developed skills that they gave a natural affinity to. Very often they don't even notice it themselves, because it comes natural to them. Instead claiming; Oh I have no special talents, and I am not good with this or that.
In such cases I enjoy pointing out to them that they indeed have some talent, that I can plainly can see. But it takes some explaining to do, before they understand that the particular talent they have, is not shared by everyone.
As they are busy with other parts of their less developed skills.
And we aren't all a Mozart or Einstein 😆 That takes several dedicated lifetimes to achieve.
It is also strange how some attract clearly challenging experiences over and over. Never learning the slightest from their problems. But repeating the pattern, and blaming others for it.
Another is the way we present ourselves. When I was young, it was very rare indeed to see a man with a beard. The past two decades it has been increasingly popular among younger men. As if the generations from mid 1800s have returned.
I'm a fan of Heinlein; and, as such, have interwoven a good bit of his 'wisdom' into my subjective experience.
"Pantheistic multiple-ego solipsism"!
That being said, I do realize that such writing is couched in the subjective 'end-game' mono-dialogue inherent in the minds of those approaching their own, individual Omega.
[Much like how Tim Leary's "prolonged-imprisonment" shaped the Thesii of Exo-Psychology, The Game of Life, etc., &c.]
You, Huntn, come with your own Bibliography, and your References are impeccable
A Galaxy of such singularities breeds a Universe of appreciation.
I remember you used to be a pilot Huntn.
Which caused me to to think of something Edgar Cayce said in at least one of his readings. Which might ring true to you?
TEXT OF READING 3004-1
15th day of May, 1943
27. Before that the entity was in the Atlantean land, before there were the second of the upheavals, when there was the dividing of the islands, when the temptations were begun in the activities of the sons of Belial and the children of the Law of One.
28. The entity was among those that interpreted the messages that were received through the crystals and the fires that were to be the eternal fires of nature, and made for helpful forces in the experience of groups during that period.
29. When the destructions came, the entity chose rather to stay with the groups than to flee to other lands.
30. The unusual activities that may come with the new developments in air, in water travel, are not new to the entity; none of these are as surprises to the entity. For, these were the beginning of the developments at that period for the escape. And these, as the entity holds to such things, it is dependent upon the use to which they are put as to whether they contribute to man's welfare, education or advancement, or not.
Which caused me to to think of something Edgar Cayce said in at least one of his readings. Which might ring true to you?
TEXT OF READING 3004-1
15th day of May, 1943
27. Before that the entity was in the Atlantean land, before there were the second of the upheavals, when there was the dividing of the islands, when the temptations were begun in the activities of the sons of Belial and the children of the Law of One.
28. The entity was among those that interpreted the messages that were received through the crystals and the fires that were to be the eternal fires of nature, and made for helpful forces in the experience of groups during that period.
29. When the destructions came, the entity chose rather to stay with the groups than to flee to other lands.
30. The unusual activities that may come with the new developments in air, in water travel, are not new to the entity; none of these are as surprises to the entity. For, these were the beginning of the developments at that period for the escape. And these, as the entity holds to such things, it is dependent upon the use to which they are put as to whether they contribute to man's welfare, education or advancement, or not.
I’m not actually sure! 🙃 I do know when I was 10 years old, my father took me to the observation deck at DC‘s National Airport 1963 and I looked at a row of brand new Eastern 727s parked in a row with pilots wearing white shirts, and black ties, and I said “that’s what I’m gonna do!” I almost didn’t make it, but I did despite obstacles, a force of will on my part, and fate. One example of several, I had to overcome an air sickness problem, which was achieved, based completely on determination, telling myself to overcome (damn it!) until the issue went away.
Pensacola, Florida 1978
I have always been impressed by people who knew at a young age what they want to do. It is such a rare gift.
Not to mention the will to press on despite challenges 👍
I never met anyone personally who knew.
But when I was 21, and worked on a huge construction site with 6 tower cranes (1989). I knew I wanted to drive cranes like that. Half a year later I enrolled, and got my certification. And I have been a tower crane driver since 1990.
It didn't take me long to become very good at it. But it took me three years of practice before I could jump from one crane to another the same day, without experiencing difficulty because of height difference. And recalibrate myself to the changes. So that I could correctly judge how high the hooks were above the ground, or floor.
I refuse to drive cranes with a remote control. I need the feeling of being one with the crane, and sense its movements.
4. Someone move in with him
This was my thought. My Grandfather lived by himself until he died a few days after my folks visited him and pressured him into moving into assisted living. Anyhow that conversation did not go well and my brother found him dead a few days later. If I was retired myself and my parent was still with it mentally but slowing down, I think I would either move in with the parent or see if they would move in with me. Give it a shot and see how it goes.
I sympathize with all in that situation of distance and isolation.