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The EU Wants All Phones to Work With Interoperable Chargers, Here’s What That Means for Apple's Lightning Port
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Do you honestly think I was rougher on my macbooks than my iPhone? I’m constantly charging iPhone when I’m in the car and many times I’m quickly jamming it in while waiting at a stoplight...
‘my macbooks are charged much less often my iPhone...
usb c cables maybe tougher but lightning ports are superior for wear. I’d rather replace said $20 cable than $999 iPhone.
Sorry, I misread. Ports, I don't know, haven't had problems with either.
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It's sad. I think the EU ought to exist, but not the way they did it. They needed to be taking on global-scale problems (which they did to some extent), not gluing countries together with silly little regulations.
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Liberalism is not their way. You know what's funny, most of Europe still doesn't have free speech. They feel the need to fine people for expressing certain opinions.
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Apple manufactures a version of the iPhone XR, iPhone XS Max, iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, and iPhone 11 Pro Max for China, Hong Kong, and Macao. Those versions have two nano-SIM card slots.
Apple also manufactured a version of the iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, and Apple Watch Series 2 for Japan. Those versions had Felica chips. (Felica is similar to NFC.)
Article Link: The EU Wants All Phones to Work With Interoperable Chargers, Here's What That Means for Apple's Lightning Port
- Option 0: Cables can have either a USB-C or a proprietary connector at the device end, and adapters continue to be available for purchase (the current status quo).
- Option 1: Cables must have a USB-C port at the device end (effectively outlawing Apple's Lightning connector).
- Option 2: Cables must have a USB-C port at the device end, or any manufacturers that wish to use a proprietary port on their device must include an adapter from USB-C to the proprietary connector (in Apple's case, a USB-C to Lightning adapter) plus a USB-C AC power plug.
- Option 3: Cables can have either a USB-C or a proprietary connector at the device end. Manufacturers that choose to use a proprietary connector must include a USB-C AC power plug in the box (Apple provides a USB-C AC power plug, but the iPhone can continue to have a Lightning connector).
- Option 4: All connectors at both the device-end and on the AC power plug must have USB-C interoperability (Apple must make USB-C chargers).
- Option 5: All connectors at the device-end must be USB-C and manufacturers must include a new fast-charging 15W+ AC power plug (Apple must make a USB-PD-compliant power plug).
No. They are solving the wrong problem, they will make power tech standstill. A more desirable solution is to stop at the wall power supply. And USB-C provides an adequate solution, though The power supply option of Thunderbolt 3 is better, and the same connector. Require any power supply provided with the mobile device meet that requirement. Then stop. Really, stop. Cables are a wear and tear item. Cables can be part of a unique solution the mobile device provides. Cables rarely outlast the mobile device.
my proposed solution also allows for ’no connector’ wirelessly charged only solutions. Just the charger pad needs to be having a cable that is standard on the power supply end. Stuck with USB-C, how do I dock my tablet with my 8k tv in 2024?
requirements for the device end connector are legislation of stagnation in technology.
People working video production on the go, using the video out with a monitor. Let’s just remember it’s not only the iPhone: all but the iPad Pro uses the lightning port.
USB-C is just there and fixes a lot of those issues.
I'm totally with EU on this one. Apple just made us switch yet again to USB-C on laptops, so now support it on iPhone and iPad too. If that means making iPhone a little thicker, use that extra thickness to give us more battery life.
Can you support your last assertion with a link to credible statistics? My experience with USBC/Lightning has not been what yours is.
My USB connections are still solid. My lightning however......
Trust this computer?
Trust this computer?
Trust this computer?
Trust this computer?
Ad nauseum.
Plug in my phone to my laptop and it charges, but immediately stops. Then restarts. Then stops. Then restarts. Then stops. Then restarts. Then stops. Then restarts. Then stops.
I'll take USBC. A connector that's the same physical size as TB3. One that is on the PCI E bus. That tells me it has enough capability.
I'm not sure that's true. They surely will force all newer items to be USBC, which means the old ones won't have to be thrown out and will still work?
Europeans see freedom differently than the Americans (positive liberty vs. negative liberty).
I tried fitting 17” tyres to my 19” wheels without success. I’ve been looking for someone to blame.
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No, he’s not being nasty. I carefully connect my MacBook Pro to my monitor via USB-C on my desk each working day, and have done since 2016. This past year, the USB-C port on the MacBook is starting to wear out: sometimes the monitor won’t be recognised, or there will be data drop-outs. Luckily, I have three other identical ports to choose from. But they do wear out / loosen over time.
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You might be a freethinking individual, and certainly have a right to express your point of view. But would you mind answering the OP‘s question: Can you explain what and how EU rules have negatively affected you? Or are you just thoughtlessly parroting ideas you’ve read in some tabloid rag or seen on some conspiracy site?
On a related matter, this radio interview is absolute hilarious, and shows the pitfalls of making bold assertions based on opinions rather than facts.
Can you support any credible statistics that usb-c wears better than lightning.
Thankfully the iPhone does this when hooked up to a computer; or a nefarious port.
Not my experience.
In the US, I’ll take lightning as long as Apple manufacturers a phone with that port.
To fine someone for expressing opinions to a non-captive audience, e.g. Twitter followers, is not even protecting negative liberty. It makes people guilty of thoughts, not of deeds.
I'l start with your first response and not go any further as you don't appear serious.
My post said My experience. I even italicised the My.
Good day sir.
I can't think of a better example of a "1st world problem" than "I have to carry TWO charging cables..." Oh the humanity!!! Glad to know the EU has solved human trafficking, hunger, terrorism, etc. and their most pressing issue is now addressing the "significant issues" associated with not being able to charge an iPhone with the same cable they use to charge a set of wireless headphones.
Facetiousness is never clever when you apply reality to it.
As we've not yet completely solved the problem of nuclear proliferation, let's put everything else on the back burner right?
You do realise they can walk and chew gum at the same time right?
The existence of bigger problems doesn't mean the smaller ones are irrelevant.
Would you walk to a firefighter and say, "oh, so you rescued a cat from a tree, huh? Well, what did you do about the fires in Australia?"
You would still have to carry the magnetic "hockey puck" cable for charging an Apple Watch (unless the EU is going mandate it has to have a USB-C connector as well). The article says the new rules would apply to "all smartphones, tablets, and other portable devices" so the question is whether a wearable device like an Apple Watch would be considered a "portable device".
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sar·casm | \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
Definition of sarcasm
"1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain"
I thought the "oh the humanity" reference in my post would be a big enough clue for anyone to realize I was being sarcastic. I guess I will need to start adding "THIS IS SARCSAM" on future posts to help the sarcasm challenged. The phrase "oh the humanity" was first spoken by a radio announcer, Herbert Morrison, in 1937 as he watched and described the Hindenburg (a German airship) bursting into flames. Metaphorically, the Hindenburg is a great example of another European idea that ended in disaster. /s
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So, do you understand what sarcasm is by now, or do you need more definitions?
I want to think of that as true and have faith in Apple again... but other phones use USBc. All other phones in fact - so they can't be that bad for phones.
USBc is also super versatile, it runs desk fans through to 8k screens so I am pretty sure it's capable of being made safe for iPhones
As for it being a far worse connector... again, macbook uses it, so they obviously aren't opposed to it and on top of that, I have not once had a USBc problem... I have however gone through several lightenings.
Come on Apple, get grown up and finallllly adapt USB-C for all devices. Lightning belongs to the past - stop sticking to it and become universal. You are keeping things more complicated - not innovative at all.