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I think Samsung have become too complacent now and are just expecting big sales to come in...copying some of Apple's ideas (design, fingerprint scanner, health element, UI etc.) isn't going to get you very far...I think their phones have all become too gimmicky - coming from both an Android (N4 & N5) and an iPhone (original - 5) owner. I don't think their marketing department gets this and sales will undoubtedly fall in the next few years! Apple does product presentations well, even without Jobs and Samsung just fill theirs with gimmicks and stupid cheesy, glitzy rubbish.
 
Oh, and no PRIME model after all.

I bet Note 4 is the one that will have the 2K display.
 
How are they more locked down than Apple's devices?

I really don't understand this statement.

Whatever you want to say about Samsung, through their popularity they have improved the experience of all android users (services, apps etc).

Because of Knox & the high chance that Carrier Models will have locked bootloader.

So if you just want to install 3rd party apps you are better off with Samsung

but if you want root access, you may be better off on iOS waiting for a jailbreak (becuase each individual carrier model needs to be cracked after each update)

Yes, most people don't care about this.. but xda/geeks do and I'd argue they were the main starter for the steamroller that is samsung. Gears are a shifting, but they really already did with the S4

Moto (maybe Sony, htc) seems to be the nerd vendor of choice now. Aside from nexus

I agree that samsung has done great for android, and I use a samsung phone myself
 
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There you have it folks...I still think the Prime version will come at a later date, perhaps closer to the iPhone 6 (July-August)..They'll start selling the S5 in April, then three months later the next big thing will arive..

My overall impressions..

* A less then stellar design, even compared to last years HTC One..
* I still did not get an answer to what is "perforated' but it appears to be plastic of some sort
* Internals are quite a decent upgrade from the S4 (Snapdragon 800 with 2gb of ram sounds fairly decent)
* Health focus would depend totally on implementation and how well everything works so cannot comment on that
* Camera looke very good altough i hate the fact that it still sticks out of the back..
* On the front it looks exactly like the s4 with a lightly larger screen (.1 inches)..And the metal ring around the home button looks OK but sure to draw comparisons to the 5s's ring..(What purpose does the ring on the S5 serve?)

Finger print scanner:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOAzTBKkrRU
 
so about as useful as androids facial recognition technique to unlock ;)

This probably has more to do with technique than anything else. I have used fingerprint-unlocking on my laptops at work the last 8-10 years and can't remember when I last had to sweep my finger more than once to log in.

Then again; if you have a very different angle on your finger when registering your original fingerprint than you will have when actually using the phone you are probably a bit simple minded :)
 
I think this year is gonna be disappointing.

The S5 has really really disappointed me, and the HTC One 2 seems just like a minor refresh.

Not interested in Note 4. LG G3 will be mostly the same with better hardware and that only leaves the Nexus 6, which will again have poor battery and a poor camera, so...

Don't expect great leaps forward in technology every year. It won't happen. Look at all the phones already announced this year, Sony, Samsung, LG. All they have done is made minor improvements over last years model.
 
Samsung should just buy HTC and have the best designed android phones on the planet :)...Nice internals (But short of the Galaxy Note 3 released last year) but nowhere close to what was being rumoured (2k Display QHD screen with 560Ppi for example) but hardly anything that was going to break the S3/4 mold when it comes to asthetics..Put this baby in a cover and not many folks are going to be able to tell the difference between it and the S4 and S3, a thing which many in the samsung community disliked about the 2 year "design" process of the iPhone.
 
An enormous letdown for me. No Prime model. S5 is larger than the S4 and heavier. I see no proof from any tech sites that the screen is superior to the Note 3 or S4, but that remains to be determined for sure. The Note 3 has a better screen than the S4 so the S5 doesn't get improved in that manner? TouchWiz receives no major overhaul.

The only positive here is the backplate. I'm honestly stunned here. :mad:
 
Don't expect great leaps forward in technology every year. It won't happen. Look at all the phones already announced this year, Sony, Samsung, LG. All they have done is made minor improvements over last years model.

Umm, internally Samsung's GN3 launched last year has better peformance (I know how samsung folks love to tout RAM (Galaxy Note 2 had 2gb ram), Processor speed etc etc)..And Samsung SVP was on record of saying that they must break the S3/4 design to offer something "different"..Well what they have essentially done is use plastic in the back but added a perforated pattern to it. Hardly something that was born after months if not years of research by the industrial design team. It would not taken much to put all this into something that looked like this :)

samsung-galaxy-s5-concept.jpg
 
I don't know...but they didn't say it only works for PayPal either.....

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It does huh? I like the Gear Fit fitness band. It looks sweet!

At first glance the Gear Fit looked interesting but upon closer examination, it looks terribly flawed. To be clear, I'm comparing it to what I like best about the Fitbit Force I use (and to a lesser extent, the Pebble):

- it looks pretty big and bulky. I personally love how the Force is quite light and that I barely notice I have it on--especially beneficial when working out/running

- screen orientation is completely wrong. If a traditional watch is considered portrait orientation, this is landscape which is not the natural orientation one holds their arm/wrist when glancing at their watch. You'll have to hold your arm out away from you to read it. Did someone actually put this in and try it? :rolleyes:

- while certainly better than the first gen Gear, battery life is still subpar. I get about 7-10 days with my Force and about 7 days with my Pebble.

- it only works with Samsung devices
 
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The S5 is not a bad upgrade, not necessarily good but decent. Samsung sets themselves up for so much hype, that people expect everything under the sun.

The camera and it's software is a great step up.

I guess since you need to swip 8 times to setup the fingerprint sensor, you'll just need to swipe as you would expect you normally would. I personally don't care for fingerprint anything.

Should have better batt life with a 2800mah battery and a toned down TW UI.

Can't complain about water and dust resistance

The heart rate thing seems like a cool feature.

Slightly larger screen with the same 1080p super amoled panel as the S4 is disappointing. Although it's a very good screen.

Dear Samsung: PLEASE STOP TRYING TO MAKE YOUR LASTEST PHONE MODELS LOOK PRETTY!!!!!! Keep it just a plain plastic slab or use actual material instead of fake leather and metal.

I'll be holding on to my S4 until the Note 4 comes out.
 
Umm, internally Samsung's GN3 launched last year as arguably better peformance (I know how samsung folks love to tout RAM, Processor speed etc etc)..And Samsung SVP was on record of saying that they must break the S3/4 design to offer something "different"..Well what they have essentially done is use plastic in the back but added a perforated pattern to it. Hardly something that was born after months if not years of research by the industrial design team. It would not taken much to put all this into something that looked like this :)

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That image was what I was hoping to see today......I will wait to see and get some hands on with the S5...but kind of let down with what I saw.
 
That image was what I was hoping to see today......I will wait to see and get some hands on with the S5...but kind of let down with what I saw.

I still think a PRIME varient lurks in the future..And i predict that the next BIG THING will soon be followed (perhaps 2-3 months later) by the next next big thing

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So not plastic?

LOL...Its unapologetically polycarbonate with modern Glam features..

Android authority review: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s5-hands-on-350394/

They also seem to feel that its virtually "Indistinguishable " from the S4 which pretty much was a slightly larger version of the S3...
 
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I still think a PRIME varient lurks in the future..And i predict that the next BIG THING will soon be followed (perhaps 2-3 months later) by the next next big thing

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LOL...Its unapologetically polycarbonate with the modern Glam features..

That's a very big word you just used ha
 
Looks like even the normal S5 is now waterproof, etc. Looks like I will be buying it in April.
 
The Galaxy S5 is the Ultimate Gimmick

I really liked the S4 because it brought their screen resolution in line with Apple (the pen tile display has half as many blue and red pixels, resulting in their stated resolution basically being a lie and the S3 looking grainy despite having very high stated resolution, the S4 gave the Galaxy the same PPI as the iPhone 5/5S basically), and I also really liked the fact that the phone now had amazing color calibration, something that was severely lacking in the S3. The S4 also pioneered the idea of shrinking the bezel of the phone, it was basically the same size as the S3 with a larger screen. The S4 was also a super slim phone. All in all it was a genuine upgrade and a great phone.

The S5 is the ultimate gimmick.

Samsung basically decided to copy everything Apple did and throw in a few rumors from the iWatch, and then up the screen size even more.

Let's start with the most important first:

1. Fingerprint "Sensor"

Apple internally developed it's fingerprint sensor with technology that essentially uses capacitative sensors to scan the finger down to several layers of tissue, it's sub-dermal and does the whole finger at once, this is almost completely unlike any standard fingerprint sensor and uses very different technology. I work with fingerprint sensors every day and they are extremely inconsistent because most scan the surface layer where dust and dead skin are. The standard procedure is to wipe your finger down before using the sensor several times and then maybe it works 50% of the time. Apple basically developed their own consistent fingerprint sensor because it's faster than entering a lock code.

Samsung just threw a standard fingerprint sensor on the S5. Not only does it not scan the whole finger leaving you to slowly move your finger down the scanner it's a dermal scanner, which is very inconsistent. It doesn't work with any dust or dead skin on your finger. The whole point of a fingerprint sensor on the iPhone 5S was that it was FASTER than using a lock code, it's instant and works very consistently. The sensor on the S5 misses the whole point. It's slow and tedious. There were plenty of phones with fingerprint sensors before the iPhone 5S, but they didn't catch on for a reason, they're useless to the average person unless they work instantly. This whole feature with the inferior fingerprint sensor screams cheap copy cat, and has failed for other manufacturers that have put the same cheap imitation in their phones recently.

2. Goldpagne S5

Gimicky. copy. cat. There's no other conclusion that can be reached here.

3. "16 megapixel" camera.

Even if Samsung used the best cameraphone sized 16 megapixel sensor you would never get 16 megapixels of resolution, in most cases you get 7-9. It's a struggle for 2 pound $2,299 top of the line pro DSLR lens on a top of the line pro body to resolve 16 megapixels:

http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Canon/Canon-EF-24-70mm-F28L-II-USM

There is no universe where the Galaxy S5 resolves much more than half of the resolution it's sensor has. The only purpose 16 megapixels serves is to deceive consumers into thinking the product is superior while severely reducing storage space. It's not just a gimmick, it actually makes the phone worse, because it wastes memory for no reason. Apple was smart to focus on noise with a bigger sensor, faster lens, and digital image stabilization on the S5. That cut the noise by a factor of 3x+. Most smartphone cameras deliver photos that are so grainy in typical poor lighting that you can barley make out 2 megapixels. So having smaller pixels with even more noise is a step backwards for Samsung.

4. Bigger 5.2" Screen, at the cost of a bigger body.

I think most people will agree that 5" was more than enough, by going to 5.2" with the S5 there was no innovation, the cost was that the size of the phone ballooned. The S5 actually has a larger bezel than the S4. This is both undesirable and a step backwards. They have just continued their one trick pony of having a bigger screen, which seems undesirable at this point.

5. Intermittent heart rate sensor on the phone.

Who has ever asked for this? Heart rate sensors are generally useful when they continuously monitor. Stopping and pulling your phone out, and waiting a few seconds every few minutes of a long distance run seems ridiculous.

6. Dual wi-fi LTE download.

For those people like me who have huge data plans and don't care about gobbling up data this seems useful, for everyone else who connects to wifi to conserve data this seems like another bell and whistle.

There are a few good features with the S5 however, that I really like behind all the gimmicks.

The good:

1. Ultra low power mode, this is genuinely useful, it turns off all the features of the phone and sets the display to black and white giving you 24 hours of stand by at 10% battery, as battery life can be an issue when you're low on power and need to be reached.

2. Kids mode, having a mode or home screen just for kids is a great idea. It makes the phone dual use, and if you have kids you don't have to worry about what they do on your phone.

3. Water and dust resistant, I think that phones really need to start moving in this direction and I'm really proud of Samsung for moving this way already. It's a natural evolution.

4. Phase detect autofocus, this gives the phone faster focusing and while the usefulness of faster autofocus on a wide angle lens is debatable and won't benefit everyone, it can't hurt and it's a good technological leap.


Overall I think the S5 is a huge step backwards, after the amazing bump the S4 was. It's a shame. I also think the bumpy surface is quite ugly but that's personal preference.
 
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