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All jokes aside it doesn't really matter that Samsung didn't do very much with the S5. The other Android OEMs simply do not have the budget nor overall resources to compete with the Samsung juggernaut no matter how good their phones are. The S5 will easily outsell the new HTC, Sony, and LG flagships combined. In the grand scheme of things that's all that matters.

One has to give credit to Samsung. Their 2012 marketing campaign successfully made them the Android alternative to the iPhone and they have been reaping the rewards ever since. HTC used to have the edge and now Samsung has been eating their lunch and will continue to do so for the forseable future. For example, when the average consumer walks into a phone store and wants an Android, they're going straight for the Samsung 9 times out of 10. Mostly because they've seen the commercials and they're aware of what the Galaxy phone is. The average person doesn't know what a Sony Z1 or HTC One is and they're not distinct enough to make the consumer consider them over what's familiar.
 
I can't tell but did the bezel actually get larger?

I believe they did to get the water resistance. I remember the active had larger bezels and the Xperia line has monster bezels because of this. For a water resistant phone though, those bezels aren't too bad.
 
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So which flagship smartphone announced so far this year has a 2K screen??

Did you read my entire post by any chance?

Specs wise it underperforms the rumours

I was comparing the actual specs to the rumoured specs (rumoured by the likes of android authority, sammobile and big media houses alike)..Having a 2k display in existence hardly matters as this was what a lot of folks were basing their expectations on (2k QHD display)..In a nutshell the Galaxy S5 is essentially a Galaxy Note 3 with less RAM (comparable to the RAM of the Note2) a fingerprint scanner and a heart rate monitor and a better camera than the s4. I dont think it looks remarkably different from the S3/S4 family, a point which Samsung itself highlighted was the reason the S4 fell short of their expectations.


Btw just FYI This puppy was announced late last year..(Not that it matters much ;) )

http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/18/vivo-xplay-3s-2k-display/

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Not sure, my Nexus shows 26.76gb storage while my iPhone shows 27.5. Both are 32gb models.

Still significantly under TW which is supposed to be a SKIN :)
 
Examining it in a vacuum, the S5 is a beast--top notch CPU, great display, what appears to be a terrific camera, great display, good size battery, expandable storage (up to 128GB :eek:). Yes, there are hardware features that I personally feel are half-baked (fingerprint sensor that for all intents and purposes cannot be activated holding the phone one-handed) or gimmicky (heart rate monitor) but are optional and don't take away for the phone if not used. I can certainly understand how this device would be an attractive option for people. In fact, most of my qualms are pretty geek specific so I really didn't expect to see much different than what we actually got today.

My own personal issues with the S5 are threefold:

1) Design--both hardware and software. Physically, I think it's an ugly design. The back panel is atrocious, the camera hump ruins any shot at a clean looking rear panel--everything looks cheap. On the software side, MRU has pretty much hit the nail on the head. There is no consistency to the software design style. It's all over the place and IMO, is also just ugly--cartoonish and dated. And 8GB for the OS--come on, that's ridiculous.

2) Materials--nothing wrong with using plastic, however it doesn't need to be cheap feeling and looking. Both Nokia and Samsung extensively use plastic throughout their devices but you'll never mistake the two.

3) Size--the Galaxy S line just keeps getting bigger and bigger and is borderline phablet. The S5 is much closer in size to the original Galaxy Note (about 5mm shorter) than the original Galaxy S (nearly 20mm longer :eek:). I wouldn't have issues with this if Samsung didn't gimp the hell out of the S Mini.

As I see it, Samsung needs to dial in the Galaxy S line, not keep adding to it. Focus on the user experience, overall and optimize the software, tighten up the design of both the hardware and software. The problem is, marketing can't sell this so Samsung is left no choice but to keep adding in whatever they can think off.
 
Did you read my entire post by any chance?

Specs wise it underperforms the rumours

I was comparing the actual specs to the rumoured specs (rumoured by the likes of android authority, sammobile and big media houses alike)..Having a 2k display in existence hardly matters as this was what a lot of folks were basing their expectations on (2k QHD display)..In a nutshell the Galaxy S5 is essentially a Galaxy Note 3 with less RAM (comparable to the RAM of the Note2) a fingerprint scanner and a heart rate monitor and a better camera than the s4. I dont think it looks remarkably different from the S3/S4 family, a point which Samsung itself highlighted was the reason the S4 fell short of their expectations.


Btw just FYI This puppy was announced late last year..(Not that it matters much ;) )

http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/18/vivo-xplay-3s-2k-display/

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Still significantly under TW which is supposed to be a SKIN :)

I know that there have been higher resolution displays on other phones. However I was referring to the mainstream flaghsips?

What Samsung have given us in the S5 is on the same level as the the other major flaghsips that have already been anounced this year (Sony and LG) and in line with the rumours of the HTC One 2.

It's the job of the tech sites to make outlandish rumours to get us all interested.

However at the end of the day 1080p is more than fine and in line with what the others are doing.

The S5 doesn't need 3GB of ram. The 2 GB in the S4 was fine. I don't see the point in doing something just because you can. Specs aren't everything. Which is why Apple are doing just fine with 1GB in the iphone 5S. Android can't just keep adding features for the sake of it. I'm glad that things have started to slow down. Look at kit kat. Instead of adding a million and one new features, google decided to concentrate on getting it's house in order. Which is the right move imo.

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Surely you mean 4k...

1080p is near as damned 2k (a device with 2k pixels horizontally. A 1080p device has 1920 pixels so basically 2k)

Yes that is what I meant.
 
He did mean 2k.... 4K screens are real UHD ones (3840 x 2160) and are completely useless on a 5" phone.

She meant 4K. However, what difference does it make. Out of the mainstream Flagships already announced this year who has a 2K or 4K screen.

Most of the mainstream flagship devices are on a par specs wise. It comes down to preference and these 'gimmicky' that ultimately separate them.
 
Just look at the Moto G or Nexus 5 (or even the Nexus 7 2013). Both are made of plastic, but they feel so so much better.

Plastic doesn't have to be as bad as Samsung makes it...
 
Not a single announced phone has a 4K screen. "Only" 2k ones.

I think any display resolution consternation here involves the fairly extensive previous rumors that the Galaxy S5 would be sporting a 2.5K screen or QHD (2560×1440).

I'll give Samsung a small amount of credit for at least not needlessly including a such a high resolution in a 5" display--would've been an unnecessary drain on battery and GPU resources. Full HD is more than enough at this point.
 
I know that there have been higher resolution displays on other phones. However I was referring to the mainstream flaghsips?



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I never compared the S5 to any flagship. All i compared its specs to was the rumours and expectations that many had developed over the past few weeks leading up to the launch. Is this seriously so hard to grasp?

What Samsung have given us in the S5 is on the same level as the the other major flaghsips that have already been anounced this year (Sony and LG) and in line with the rumours of the HTC One 2.

LG announced a QHD display if I am not mistaken. HTC M8 is rumoured to have a 1080P HD LCD Display @ 5inches, we are not sure since it was not launched at MWC. At least I along with many others expected samsung to go one ahead of these given their display expertise and the fact that they had so publicly shown prototypes of ridiculously high ppi AMOLED's. Its ok if Samsung wished to be at par with its android flagship brothers..but given its massive display know how it really needed to leap frog them to come out with the next big thing as this was touted.

Regarding 2gb of RAM being better then 3gb :

Lets wait and use it at least to come to that conclusion! Or are you just so confident without even using the phone that you are willing to come to this conclusion? What effect does the much bloated TW has on the entire experience remains to be seen, definitely compared to other flagship devices which do not have as bloated a SKIN as TW and offer or will offer 3gb of ram along with the same processor.

On specs aren't everything:

This just makes the day! Samsung has always touted its superior specs..Dig around on google, they even used it in marketing.

Apple using 1 GB RAM:

This was totally the opposite of what most Samsung fans claimed...Apple had POOR specs compared to samsung..Whats happening here :)


Android never was the problem...It has always been the TW that has kept on becoming more bloated.

 
Examining it in a vacuum, the S5 is a beast--top notch CPU, great display, what appears to be a terrific camera, great display, good size battery, expandable storage (up to 128GB :eek:). Yes, there are hardware features that I personally feel are half-baked (fingerprint sensor that for all intents and purposes cannot be activated holding the phone one-handed) or gimmicky (heart rate monitor) but are optional and don't take away for the phone if not used. I can certainly understand how this device would be an attractive option for people. In fact, most of my qualms are pretty geek specific so I really didn't expect to see much different than what we actually got today.

Specs on Android can easily be replicated and would be at various price points..

Your basic specs for flagship would be :

Snapdragon 800/801 followed by 805 (Q3Q4)
1080P HD LCD or AMOLED
2GB-3GB RAM
32-64GB internal memory.

How long before the likes of LG and HTC along with the chinese brands start to put price pressure on the S5 with very similar specs? It launches in April, I am sure by then HTC and LG devices would also be available (with equal or better specs/internals) and by June-July you'd have the chinese OEM's come to the table with vastly cheaper devices with essentially similar specs. People have been saying for some months that these are the OEM's samsung needs to fear (for its Profit margins) instead of apple ! Lets see!

Lets take the Nexus 5...

-Snapdragon 800, quad core chip..
-2 GB RAM
-5 Inch 1080 P Display
- No bloated TW
- real time updates on android

Google did this last year in the same form factor at half the price !

Is the better camera really worth double the price? Remember this is a valid comparison since both are android phones..Not iOS or Windows..or tizen ;)
 
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Yes, I think that the camera is worth it.

To you (and probably to me too) but what about the millions of people around the world? How much better the GS5's camera really is tot eh N5? Lets see once a valid comparison is made (if at all)..

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Endgadget just did a comparison on the S5 vs G2Pro, HTC, Sony Z2, all similarly sized (except the LG)..HTC One is being compared here not the M8, the M8 is rumoured to run on the same processor as the S5 and use a aluminium unibody..Not sure if it will retain the fingerprint scanner as on the MAX but that could be an option. The camera is said to be improved and the software skin is also upgraded..

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/24/amsung-galaxy-s5-vs-the-competition/

HTC-one-2014-two-colors.jpg
 
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