I want it. For me the 9.7" tablet is useless brick too big too heavy too uncomfortable. You're just threatened by the new iPad mini. Otherwise I see no point in this thread. Guess what whine all you want, it doesn't change the fact the mini is going to take the crown in Apple's tablet category, while the current big iPad will be the second best.
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The iPad Mini will be Apple's/Cook's Big Mistake
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As am I.
I've been waiting for a smaller iPad since I got the first one on launch day. I loved it to bits but found it too big and heavy to really take it out everywhere and found myself using my iPhone more.
When I bought my second iPad I again wished for a smaller one.
When the third iPad came out I didn't get one and instead got a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 and straight away I fell in love with the size of it. However I still wanted a smaller iPad because I just don't like the UI of Android, even after waiting months and months for ICS to come out.
Now everyday I use my 7.7 to look up macrumors telling me about the iPad mini and I think to myself, FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY!!
I remember the exact same thing was said about the iPhone when it was first released. Look at it now. 
If a mistake was made, I believe it was made with the new iPod Touch, not the iPad Mini.
Given the new 5G iPod pricing, the iPad Mini pricing will be in an awkward spot. Or maybe it was Apple's plan all along to drive people to the iPad Mini... and make the iPod Touch the sacrificial lamb to that cause.
Given the new 5G iPod pricing, the iPad Mini pricing will be in an awkward spot. Or maybe it was Apple's plan all along to drive people to the iPad Mini... and make the iPod Touch the sacrificial lamb to that cause.
I think I would like a smaller iPad. I have a Gen1 and tried to read with it in bed and its just too big. I ended up buying a nook and its the perfect size. Now I use the ipad to read comic books cause its the perfect size and reading some of the net.
But I may also not the exact target market for the iPad. I am not a commuter and I am not a business person and I watch and consume most of my media on my iMac and AppleTV. I use it around the house as a big remote for the AppleTV, reading comics, maybe some bit of web browsing and watching netflix in bed.
But I may also not the exact target market for the iPad. I am not a commuter and I am not a business person and I watch and consume most of my media on my iMac and AppleTV. I use it around the house as a big remote for the AppleTV, reading comics, maybe some bit of web browsing and watching netflix in bed.
@1 by that definition the iphone 5 is a mistake too, oh wait it already shipped millions.
@2 depends on the scree size and I am defiantly going to make apps for it, charging 2,99 at minium. But I won't buy one, of course.
@that one is actually true, but for novels I have a kindle so no need there.
if they don't do it, how do you expect them to destroy the legacy of Steve and become another 'me too' company. They have no other choice in order to achive this goal,..., oh wait, what did just say...
In principle you're right, in reality, Apple's a money making business and this is good business.
Everyone wants an iPad, only a few wants to spend $499 for one. This is why the iPod was so successful, not because Apple stuck to its best and greatest, but because it compromised and made an iPod mini.
You can't make money from the top 1%. The real money is in the 99%.
1. Its likely that they'd go with 1024x768 resolution which means no fragmentation. All the existing apps will work just fine.
2. See above.
3. Just your opinion. There are a lot of times where I felt smaller iPad would've been better. Just because Steve discarded the idea of 7" tablet doesn't mean there isn't a market for it.
Anything with a shiny Apple logo will sell
I'm too lazy to send you the link to the Rolling Stones jolly rendition of "Oh No Not You Again" but it's a tempting thought.
We have already seen several iterations of why you think what you think about the mini iPad. So don't get one. Many of the rest of us would like one, and will get one, and use it for whatever we think works well on that size tablet. I'm willing to let Tim Cook deal with the results of this rollout.
Why clutter my brain with wondering whether some CEO made the right decision today? I'd rather focus on making sure I get my own stuff sorted. If I elect to use two different size tablets in that process, bully for me and not bad for Cook either, eh?
And just for Mr. Cook's further edification: the market will likely support nano and monster iPads as well.
Now I too have repeated myself, to square things up with Sven.The mini would still be Steve's and not just Cooks. We have been hearing rumors on the mini for a long time.
You guys do realize Steve was known to make comments that were in the best interests of Apple's(& not always the consumer) pipeline of product releases & updates. Any smart CEO would...
And, by the way, some of Apple's products are 4 years into production, so I wouldn't doubt Steve knew some of the specs incorporated into the mini.
And, I'll say this... Steve knew a iPad mini was needed eventually, he just had to showcase the iPad first to magnify the tablet market he pioneered. This is all Steve still in my opinion, and I would say we won't see the last of Steve's creations till 2015-2016 rolls around. The last thing he did want to do, was make a TV remind you... or should I say, change the TV.
When that happens, I know Apple & Tim Cook will have made Steve proud.
You obviously didn't understand Steve. He always said something like that about the competition but that didn't mean anything other than "at that moment in time" he saw no need. The playing field constantly evolves and the iPad is a phenomenal success so it only makes sense that they increase market share. I'll bet it will be a hit in schools and as a gift for kids.
Hello newbie who only joined three days ago so he/she could complain about the iPad mini.
Based on your previous feeling on this subject, I will have to take a pass on your opinion.
You are welcome to restated this opinion in six months to let use know how it turned out.
Thanks again.
Based on your previous feeling on this subject, I will have to take a pass on your opinion.
You are welcome to restated this opinion in six months to let use know how it turned out.
Thanks again.
I actually think quite the opposite. This will be one Cook's greater achievements. Getting app penetration right out the gate will be the number one contributing factor, that's what turned me off the Nexus 7 alone. The $329 price point should have been $299 in my opinion but it won't stop it from selling. Huge win I think for customers wanting an iPad experience without breaking the bank too from an iPad relativistic view anyways.
I bought both the MacBook Air and iPad as soon as they were launched. I never thought they'd be a big mistake.
However, I'm someone who works in mobile and with tablets for development everyday. Tweeners are a tough sell because:
1. People have limited time in a day to use gadgets. And the gadget they use 75% of the time is the smartphone.
2. The data is overwhelming with regard to how people use their iPad: they use it on the couch watching TV.
Now, the Mini could change things in that people might use it out and about more than they use the larger iPad because it's smaller. However, it's still not pocketable and much larger and more awkward than a smartphone. So it's not going to compete hardly at all with that device.
In other words, outside of the fact that it doesn't do really anything better than a smartphone or a larger tablet, the use cases are really, really limited.
And no Retina screen? That is brutal and absurd. I can't believe Apple would do this. Yes, yes, I understand keep the developers happy - they won't have to touch their Apps!. First, do I want to waste my time developing for an old-school fuzzy display? No, not really at all. Second, Schiller is full of *****. Just because it's the same resolution as the iPad 2 doesn't mean you won't have to touch your Apps. UI changes and tweaks are necessary because the pixels are smaller. Everything scales down with unintended consequences. It's not that simple.
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Good luck. By the way, I bet you've never developed any software in your life.
You WILL NOT just be able to leave your Apps alone. UI must be tweaked and changed because the pixels are smaller on the Mini and everything scales down. Schiller is full of it. It's not that simple.
And if you read the reviews today you'd see how people are knocking the Mini because it really doesn't fit in any pocket but some claim the Nexus to be able to do.
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No. They've been working hard on spec bumps as we saw today. Apple... going down the road of every other tech company with spec bumps.
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large. Small. Tiny.
1. You obviously haven't seen how many Android devices have different screen sizes. Also app's are developed based on resolution, not screen size. The resolution of the iPad Mini is the same as the iPad 1/2 so therefore you are wrong.
2. Refer to my answer above, all current apps will work fine.
3. It won't sale because it's too small? Have you seen the sales of the Nexus 7/Kindle Fire/Nook etc? There's clearly a market there for it.. they don't just make a product and hope it sticks normally. They evaluate it from an economical standpoint to determine profits.
You are altogether wrong... and all your assumptions are false. I'm sorry, don't mean to be blunt.
The iPad mini will be the #1 selling tablet by 2014, mark my words... it screams portability, like screeeeaaaams it!
I am getting, and the whole world will eventually adopt because of a price-point need for certain consumers and the use of a mini iPad actually being more comfortable for portable use & daily use nonetheless. Did you hear, it will be more comfortable for daily portable use... it will, guaranteed!
This will be the #1 selling tablet sooner than later... I give it 18months.
The only thing that could be a "mistake" is to jeopardize sales within the market because of a lack of product differentiation for an Apple Tablet, but Apple knows how to make marginal profits on products oh so well...
This is actually extremely hard to do on the business end, but Apple does this so well historically through an array of avenues. Furthermore, I wouldn't doubt Apple still makes profits by margins through all of the iPad product line per se. So, I do think the regular iPad will have some features that the mini may not see(or may not see for a certain timeframe) to make sure they offer some product differentiation in order to not cannibalize their own sales within the tablet market. They will create a leverage of software vs hardware functionality & vice-versa to always keep the marginal profits alive & ticking.
I do think, in a year or so, because of the iPad mini, Apple will start saturating the tablet market just like they did with the MP3 market. So, I applaud Tim Cook for seeing the market opportunity that SJ believed was not there(or he said was not there
iPods eventually got smaller... iPads will eventually be smaller. It's just a business model that Apple believed in as they pioneered the mp3 & now the tablet market altogether.
And iPods eventually got bigger too re: this year's Nano.
Good luck with the Mini, see you in a year.
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Hah! Reducing the bezel? Thank God you are a nobody with no sense of ... anything.
You can't hold a 10" iPad with no bezel.
Thank god you can't read!
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Steve Jobs would never have let the iPad 3 get thicker and heavier than the iPad 2. But Apple ended up doing this. It's supposed to get thinner and lighter like so much of their product evolution goes.
You are simply seeing the effects of Steve gone.
With Steve:
iPad 3: 1.2 lbs: lighter and thinner than the iPad 2.
Without Steve:
iPad 3: 1.44 lbs, thicker than the iPad 2.
6 months later panic and confusion ensues at Apple... launch the iPad 4 with just a spec bump and throw in a non-Retina Mini iPad version. Let's shake up the industry!
Market confusion and alienation amongst Apple customers ensues. Nobody knows when the next product updates will be and people's buying habits become much harder to predict. And economies of scale get trashed: instead of getting a full year out of the parts in a device, because of the spec bump, it's 6 months on those parts. And in 6 months from now, surprise everyone with an iPad 5: it's the same size and weight but gets an additional 2 cameras!
Enjoy that non-Retina, passive matrix style Mini screen! See you in fuzzyville!
The point is with Steve's laser focus on evolving a product, they wouldn't have been all over the place like they are right now. They would have launched a much improved iPad 4 next year. Something impossibly thin and light with a slightly reduced bezel so it's smaller and much easier to handle. Instead Apple starts to stray.
Nobody needs a non-Retina tablet from Apple. Wake up.
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