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CrazyForCashews

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Wow, what a hideous beast.

Sure they may be the most powerful iPhones or smartphones ever made but their design is quite an eye sore, mainly due to the obtrusive ugly camera housing. There is now not one camera bump, but THREE separate camera bumps on top of the main camera housing bump. These bumps and grooves will collect dust, grime, dirt, and other crap like no tomorrow! Slapping on a case doesn't excuse lazy design!

Even the iPhone X/XS looks better than the 11 Pros because it has only one camera bump and flush sensors.

Just look at this thing:

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I'm not scared of spiders but after seeing the 11 Pros, I am now. For comparison:

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If it’s the best camera on a smart phone could care less if it doesn’t look as pleasing..what the camera does will be far more important to me.
You need a camera that just happens to have smartphone features. If the camera manufacturers ever figure out how to make their cameras do that, Apple is in big trouble with you guys that only care about the camera.
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And why does looks matter - it is function that counts.
Looks matter when function is already achieved.

Not all of us need a bazillion MP camera that can take perfect pics from space. Some of us just use the camera on our phone so our wives can see what item on the shelf at Walmart they want.

99% of the pics in my camera roll are that. And any old phone can call, text, surf and email.
 
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I don’t know if I’d say ugly, but it is somewhat worrisome. I’ll be upgrading from XS Max as I’m in the upgrade program and functionally the cameras seem great and the battery life will be welcomed, but I’m honestly surprised by the camera design for the reasons mentioned. The flush covering of the X/XS is much more pleasing to the eye and minimizes the area dust and junk build up. I’m wondering if the separate housing has to do with magnets for OIS, though I still would prefer a single glass layer over everything, even if slightly thicker, as opposed to three separate bump outs and three potential points of failure.

That third picture in the gallery worries me with the way the lenses protrude from the metal casing. Looks more pronounced than the X/XS. Hopefully the leather case is thick enough to ensure these don’t take a direct hit on a flat fall. Glad I’ll only have this for a year, and hopefully this aspect of the design improves next year.
 
The spider comparison is excellent, but it actually makes me like the iPhone 11 Pro more. ;)
I didn't really think anything of the looks, good or bad, during the demo. Just looks like an X/XS with more camera.

As for cleaning... the camera bump on my iPhone X is actually one of the easiest parts to clean (and I don't expect the lens bumps to be any different). The speakers are the lint magnets that are difficult to clean.
 
I honestly think it looks better than I was expecting, but I also think there is a reason they do not have a lot of full body shots on their website. The phone cases look ridiculous IMO because of how large the cutout is. The new color is pretty bad ass though.
 
I don’t know if I’d say ugly, but it is somewhat worrisome. I’ll be upgrading from XS Max as I’m in the upgrade program and functionally the cameras seem great and the battery life will be welcomed, but I’m honestly surprised by the camera design for the reasons mentioned. The flush covering of the X/XS is much more pleasing to the eye and minimizes the area dust and junk build up. I’m wondering if the separate housing has to do with magnets for OIS, though I still would prefer a single glass layer over everything, even if slightly thicker, as opposed to three separate bump outs and three potential points of failure.

That third picture in the gallery worries me with the way the lenses protrude from the metal casing. Looks more pronounced than the X/XS. Hopefully the leather case is thick enough to ensure these don’t take a direct hit on a flat fall. Glad I’ll only have this for a year, and hopefully this aspect of the design improves next year.

I have the XS max in an apple leather case and I still have scratches on my camera lens....
 
This is why my theory is that leaks are controlled - that way, the ugliness grows on people and ultimately, upon reveal/launch, the design is acceptable. I bet people would have been shocked and reacted far more negatively, if they'd seen this monstrous design for the first time during the keynote.
 
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I don’t know if I’d say ugly, but it is somewhat worrisome. I’ll be upgrading from XS Max as I’m in the upgrade program and functionally the cameras seem great and the battery life will be welcomed, but I’m honestly surprised by the camera design for the reasons mentioned. The flush covering of the X/XS is much more pleasing to the eye and minimizes the area dust and junk build up. I’m wondering if the separate housing has to do with magnets for OIS, though I still would prefer a single glass layer over everything, even if slightly thicker, as opposed to three separate bump outs and three potential points of failure.

I'm just speculating, but I wonder if it has anything to do with trying to reduce flare under certain conditions? When you have lenses of various focal lengths (even micro-lenses) every piece of glass you put in front of them will affect image quality and potentially add flare and reduce contrast. It may be that each lens element has a piece of glass over it that is of a very specific thickness and even curvature. Adding a top plane of glass that covers all elements would create a cleaner looking iPhone, but perhaps with compromises.
- Given that the ultrawide has 5 elements vs 6 for the other lenses... I bet they couldn't cover it all with a single pane of glass without compromising one or more lenses.
 
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If it’s the best camera on a smart phone could care less if it doesn’t look as pleasing..
So that means you do care! I appreciate your honesty!

And why does looks matter - it is function that counts.
Looks are equally as important as function. If design and aesthetics weren't important, we'd all still be using something like this:

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The flush covering of the X/XS is much more pleasing to the eye and minimizes the area dust and junk build up.
Exactly, the camera housing on the X/XS is more consistent and aesthetic. It's probably more robust too. Now that the 11 Pros have FOUR (4) camera bumps (including the camera housing itself), that whole area is more prone to build up but worse, damage. Four bumps means four times the chance of it catching or brushing against something and potentially breaking.

Also, four times the eye sore. The camera area of the 11 Pros look really cheap and something that looked slapped on. They seem so obtrusive and out of place. Not very Apple in my honest opinion.

This is why my theory is that leaks are controlled - that way, the ugliness grows on people and ultimately, upon reveal/launch, the design is acceptable to most people. I bet people would have reacted far worse, had today been the first time they laid eyes upon this monstrous design.
Interesting theory and very believable!
 
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An iPhone is a practicality device, not a piece of artwork that needs to be displayed on a wall for everybody to look at. No one cares what the back of an iPhone looks like, because it’s in a case anyways for the majority of customers. It’s really interesting to see how frantic others fret over the little things about how an iPhone looks, but everybody else in the real world just uses it as a tool every single day without issue.
 
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