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usbC was Apple Intel and others implementation and invention, check introduction also for the 12" Macbook
Also if the EU wanted to show its power would have done this for 2020 not for 2024...not now when its already too late..probably Apple would have removed the lightning next year at most
People need to stop talking about it like it’s the end of the world. Apple have USB-C on every other product including their TV remote. The EU just gave Apple a kick up the backside rather than an outright demand. And in any case we are talking about the adoption of an industry standard. It’s worth mentioning that we only have industry standards because of the EU. SCART was developed as a cross-border solution to TV sales and GSM was put in place in the 1980’s to ensure the interoperability of mobile phone networks across borders.
 
usbC was Apple Intel and others implementation and invention, check introduction also for the 12" Macbook
Also if the EU wanted to show its power would have done this for 2020 not for 2024...not now when its already too late..probably Apple would have removed the lightning next year at most
If you think EU is doing this "to show power", you totally misunderstood EU's green politics goals... (that's been going on for decades now)
 
I've got ambivalent feelings about this.

On one side mute switch is iconic, you can recognize its state easily by its position.

But on the other side
  • there are many people who don't use mute switch at all and so its kind of useless for them
  • you could not use "mute" in shortcuts and focus profiles (because of its physical position)
  • button may add multiple features at once (press, double press, hold)
  • button may further increase the durability
 
I've got ambivalent feelings about this.

On one side mute switch is iconic, you can recognize its state easily by its position.

But on the other side
  • there are many people who don't use mute switch at all and so its kind of useless for them
  • you could not use "mute" in shortcuts and focus profiles (because of its physical position)
  • button may add multiple features at once (press, double press, hold)
  • button may further increase the durability
I agree. While I may or may not take advantage of it, I can respect the fact that others will find more use from it.

BTW your post got me thinking.... maybe Apple's crack marketing team will find a way to make the action button the new dynamic island of the iPhone 15 Pro line and we'll all be blown away by it somehow lol.
 
Finally… I’m one of those people who takes the phone out of the box, toggles the mute switch and never turns it back on.
I always wanted a way to react quickly enough to take a photo, in about a second. Right now it takes me more like 4 seconds to swipe, tap, aim and capture, so sometimes I miss the event. To be able to truly just point and shoot even with the screen locked will make a huge difference.
 
Am I the only one who prefers the mute switch? Maybe I’m old but I actually have the ringer on when I’m home. This smells like a gimmick to detract from the fact that this isn’t all THAT much of an upgrade.

Let's wait and see. Apple isn't exactly known for adding gimmicks that add little functionality to their products.
 
Reading the forum and media this time it’s USB-C. The 16 must come with a lot of new features to attract new buyers. Every new feature now is somehow wasted because people are buying for USB-C only. Interestingly the biggest new feature didn’t even come from apple.
And I thought it was the telescope lense - well, on the 15PM anyway...
 
we only have industry standards because of the EU.
from legal stand point it seems you are miss-understanding...industry standards then should apply to OS..so why we still have iOS then?
EU did nothing...just apply when was too late...they tried so many times, but they did now because Apple was already on its way out with that old lightning port. Not even the EU say NO to money and what Apple means to the China USA and even EU
People should remember , time after time, the tech companies are getting stronger and stronger...the gouverments loss their power that they own 30-40 years ago...Information is power, and where is the most information is?! i guess we all know this
Thankful, the big Google Apple and Microsoft are still "run" by normal people and not by Communists or people that can do a lot of dmg being at helm of this. Information is the next "nuclear power"
Governments should be afraid of its people, not the other way around...stop thinking that EU is thinking about its people, if you do then you have 0 doors to what is really happening behind the closed doors
 
If they offer the phone in a gold color again, they can call it the Solid Gold Easy Action button.

 
If you think EU is doing this "to show power", you totally misunderstood EU's green politics goals... (that's been going on for decades now)
you missunderstood my post
I said IF EU wanted to show power...they should done this in 2020 and not for 2024 when Apple was already done with the lightning port
People still thinks EU fights for its people...EU understand they cannot lose one of the 3 biggest companies in the world...they say YES to the money
EU green going full electric...but thesedays in EU is the most polluted time because we have pollution from gas cars but also from battery makers for the electric cars ...so yes, EU green politics goals...
 
I just hope we can map multiple functions, such as single click for camera, hold for toggle mute and maybe a double click for something else. A single action seems a tad limiting to me, particularly when the existing side button on the phone has a similar range of behaviours responding to single / double / hold interactions already.
 
Am I the only one who prefers the mute switch? Maybe I’m old but I actually have the ringer on when I’m home. This smells like a gimmick to detract from the fact that this isn’t all THAT much of an upgrade.
I pretty much *never* use mute so having it available for something else will work for me.
 
Reading the forum and media this time it’s USB-C. The 16 must come with a lot of new features to attract new buyers. Every new feature now is somehow wasted because people are buying for USB-C only. Interestingly the biggest new feature didn’t even come from apple.
USB-C will be nice for me i can just have one cable type for everything and ditch all the lightnings i have lying around plus one cable will now let me sync phone, iPad, connect SSDs without fishing round the back of my iMac to change a cable
 
People still thinks EU fights for its people...EU understand they cannot lose one of the 3 biggest companies in the world...they say YES to the money
What? Could you please clarify this? I'm sorry but I totally don't get what you want to say here.
 
from legal stand point it seems you are miss-understanding...industry standards then should apply to OS..so why we still have iOS then?
EU did nothing...just apply when was too late...they tried so many times, but they did now because Apple was already on its way out with that old lightning port. Not even the EU say NO to money and what Apple means to the China USA and even EU
People should remember , time after time, the tech companies are getting stronger and stronger...the gouverments loss their power that they own 30-40 years ago...Information is power, and where is the most information is?! i guess we all know this
Thankful, the big Google Apple and Microsoft are still "run" by normal people and not by Communists or people that can do a lot of dmg being at helm of this. Information is the next "nuclear power"
Governments should be afraid of its people, not the other way around...stop thinking that EU is thinking about its people, if you do then you have 0 doors to what is really happening behind the closed doors
You seem to misunderstand the term industry standard.

GSM, Compact Disk, DVD, VHS, HDMI, ARM, SCART, S-Video, Blu-ray, USB, WiFi, DIMM, Bluetooth etc: all hardware standards created by one company or a consortium that are designed to make it easier to sell customers products compatible with things they already own and to eliminate barriers to cross-border trade. Consortiums such as MPEG exist to ensure companies aren’t developing proprietary technologies, using that as leverage and inconveniencing the end user. Yes, some companies create standards and make a lot of money from it (eg Sony and Blu-ray) but it is still open for other companies to use.

USB-C was a future proof port developed as part of the existing USB standard to eliminate the inconvenience of one-sided entry and to ensure that we could have one industrial standard capable of communicating data, power and video at the same time. Apple themselves, members of the consortium that led to its development were one of the first companies to even adopt it en masse. It is likely your first sight of a USB-C port was on a MacBook Pro. Now Apple use it for everything, from Thunderbolt data transfers to charging the TV remote.

Lightning was developed as a stop-gap. Jobs wanted a thinner device and this meant eliminating the dock connector the iPhone adopted from the iPod. USB-C was in development but wouldn‘t be ready until 2014, 2 years after the proposed launch of the iPhone 5 in 2012. Apple created their own port as an intermediary until that became ready And it would have been in development for years, ie before Jobs passed.

Jobs was a firm believer in dropping old tech to make Apple look like the future and had no trouble writing off Floppy Drives, Serial Ports and FireWire years before the rest of the industry. Had USB-C been ready in 2012 I have no doubt Apple would have jumped on it straight away. When Tim Cook took over his corporate mission went from changing the world to maintaining profitability. Lightning licences were a big money spinner for Apple and so whilst they upgraded the rest of their products, the iPhone stagnated with USB 2.0 and a proprietary standard just to keep the margins high.

In 2020 the EU proposed a universal charging standard for all electronic devices to both eliminate e-waste and advocate convenience for the consumer just as they had done when building the GSM networks of the 1980’s. Although most Android manufacturers had move on to USB-C at this point there was still too much micro-USB usage around and Apple, with its stagnated iPhone ports was dragging its heels.

Now its 2023 and Apple has finished dragging and caught up to the rest of the industry. You could perhaps argue that this has extended beyond connectors and whilst I am certainly happy with my device, to the average consumer it looks like Apple has ceded leadership in the marketplace to Samsung who are now dictating the form factor and where devices might go. You only have to look at the number of foldables from competing companies to see that they see it too.
 
I should hope Apple gave it thought as most (not all, but most) will want to use it was a silent/non silent button.

Long press - to toggle the silent/non silent, confirmed by quick vibration for silent and long vibration for non silent. This vibration feedback will inform customers who are toggling in their pocket.

Short press - customisable action button as per above.

Anything else and they've dropped the ball and not thought about user experience properly.
 
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I like the mute switch as it is for a simple reason.
Having the phone in my pocket, I can turn on/off Mute without looking and knowing for sure which state the phone is in.
With a toggle button, this will be a lot harder to do.
I imagine there’ll be haptic feedback you’ll get used to quickly - one buzz for on, two for off, or something like that
 
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