Well it is an Apple forum so what did you expect? Most folks here are just Apple fans and not necessarily into every aspect of how their stuff works. How many people who own an iPhone do you think actually plug it in for app updates? iOS updates?, etc? I know several who don't or are afraid to because it "might erase all their phone numbers". WTF people!
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The iPhone 4S Appears to Have 512MB RAM
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Well it is an Apple forum so what did you expect? Most folks here are just Apple fans and not necessarily into every aspect of how their stuff works. How many people who own an iPhone do you think actually plug it in for app updates? iOS updates?, etc? I know several who don't or are afraid to because it "might erase all their phone numbers". WTF people!
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RAM hasn't been a problem for me yet on iPhone 4 but it was a huge issue on the 3G.
For developers though the problem of RAM availability can impact what apps end up on an "I" devices. It isn't always about being sloppy. One has to remember that not all of that RAM is free for apps and there is no paging (for data).
What does this say. Well more RAM might not be a big deal at the moment. For a developer it could be a problem. IPad 3 might very well require much more RAM especially if the display resolution increases.
From the users perspective, it is iOS 5 we have to worry about. Will iOS 5 reserve more RAM for itself or free up some RAM? I bring this up because features like SIRI must use some RAM. In the end it will take a bit of study to see if iOS 5 results in a significant regression when it comes to user RAM availability.
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RAM hasn't been a problem for me yet on iPhone 4 but it was a huge issue on the 3G.
For developers though the problem of RAM availability can impact what apps end up on an "I" devices. It isn't always about being sloppy. One has to remember that not all of that RAM is free for apps and there is no paging (for data).
What does this say. Well more RAM might not be a big deal at the moment. For a developer it could be a problem. IPad 3 might very well require much more RAM especially if the display resolution increases.
From the users perspective, it is iOS 5 we have to worry about. Will iOS 5 reserve more RAM for itself or free up some RAM? I bring this up because features like SIRI must use some RAM. In the end it will take a bit of study to see if iOS 5 results in a significant regression when it comes to user RAM availability.
people have been saying that the current idevices have worked great for years, yet every time theres a spec bump people are talking about how much faster, and what not the new device is. ergo, lots of people seem to care, even if it work(ed) great. for good reason too.
yes, theres more to a good experience than speccs. but that doesnt mean we can take speccs completely out of the equation now, can we? :- )
512MB at this stage of the game is straight ridiculousness! Thanks Tim Cook, another great decision.............
The RAM will definately be the BottleNeck for the graphical performance within the games of the iphone and will most likely limit Siri when multitasking.......................
1GB of RAM would have been nice.
Sure, others have more RAM
But they don't have 1,000 employees working on custom chips. They use a generic OS and generic parts, fastest, biggest always best to get the nerds. If that's all they've got, I'm thinking because that's all they need. No need to light up a gig of RAM if you can scrunch it down to 512 MB. More battery life. More battery life.
But they don't have 1,000 employees working on custom chips. They use a generic OS and generic parts, fastest, biggest always best to get the nerds. If that's all they've got, I'm thinking because that's all they need. No need to light up a gig of RAM if you can scrunch it down to 512 MB. More battery life. More battery life.
Yeah this is probably for the best, means developers won't get sloppy with their coding and make 4S games virtually unplayable on other iDevices.
My Desire S has 768MB of RAM though, maybe a little boost from 512 to 768 would have been a nice compromise.
My Desire S has 768MB of RAM though, maybe a little boost from 512 to 768 would have been a nice compromise.
You can be assured that all ARM producers (i.e. Samsung, Qualcomm, TI and NVIDIA) each have way more engineers working on chips than Apple does.
That's because Apple prioritizes the need for very fast memory over very much memory. Competition is still building in the slower 1066mHz ddr2 memory into thair consumer laptops while Apple have switched to the faster 1333mHz ddr3 banks with very, very low latency months ago! They also figured hardly anyone ever uses 8gb's of ram unless you're a heavy duty user. I am such a heavy duty user (lots of compiling and VM), so I always buy an aftermarket memory upgrade. But I have never experienced the same level of performance after the upgrade as with the stock memory just because I'm not willing to pay over 100 bucks for it. Low latency memory is way more expensive than standard consumer line memory, but if you prefer speed over size, well worth it!
exactly...
on pc magazines and websites they teach this for years...
take the graphics card with the faster ram if they have the same chip and the slower ram is double the sitze as it is on the card with the faster ram.
pc the same... take the one with "only" 4 gig, not the one with 8 gig but slower one... you don't need 8gig, not even with the newest games... faster rams outperforms more slower ram...
teribble - my english - i know
- so don't hurt me I don't know why but the impression Apple is giving about Siri is it will be an iPhone 4S feature until maybe iPad 3. Just a guess so no facts like you asked for.
Really, so you can quote a source that says the 512MB is limiting them in games as opposed to what they can do otherwise? Apple devs concerning Siri?
Because Apple only produces one chip per year. The others either have a more varied product selection (Samsung, Qualcomm, TI) or a more aggressive release schedule (Nvidia).
Good points about certain apps never making it to the iPhone potentially because of not enough RAM being available. Also a good point that iOS does not offer paging/swap/virtual memory using the solid state storage as swap. Further good point about the footprint of iOS5 -- certainly Siri will have an impact. That said, folks may find more available RAM on an iPhone 4 without Siri than they would on the iPhone 4S with Siri. I certainly would not be upset at getting 1GB of RAM on the iPhone 4S, but like I said -- it is not a deal breaker either.
My 3GS is a lot smoother than the SII, so I think you might be confused.
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There are a lot of reasons not to just add more ram. Apple engineers devices without much concern for padding spec sheets. Other companies build spec sheets and the only engineering work that is done is determining how tomcram that spec sheet into a phone.
Arn, why aren't these called personal attacks when they are aimed at all the users? This post is still insulting and irrelevant. We see this stuff almost constantly lately.
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Also said it has a 12mp camera and every other word on the internal chart in the original story is spelled wrong and non-sensical. Don't let that stop you from spreading a totally false rumor though.
As far as I'm concerned, this is all irrelevant as long as even my iPhone 4 isn't able to "remember" all its tabs in Safari. As long as this problem persists, the iPhone and the iPad obviously don't have enough RAM, because it's highly detrimental to the USER EXPERIENCE you and your sanctimonious ilk profess to cherish so much.
If this is true, that is a big fail on Apple's part.
Whether they are trying to increase profits or overlooked this, this just doesn't work out.
Android phones already have 1GB RAM, a person can never have enough RAM.
Same as a person can never have enough memory.
Apple fans can deny it but this iPhone was intended to compete with the other dual core 2011 Android phones, without 1GB RAM, there seems to be a big hole IMO.
Whether they are trying to increase profits or overlooked this, this just doesn't work out.
Android phones already have 1GB RAM, a person can never have enough RAM.
Same as a person can never have enough memory.
Apple fans can deny it but this iPhone was intended to compete with the other dual core 2011 Android phones, without 1GB RAM, there seems to be a big hole IMO.
iFixit give us teardown iDemand it
I hope ifixit tears it down on the day its released
only 512MB RAM? ...I'm hopeful the next iPhone is not very far away, six months?
this puts it on a par w/iPad2 and not ahead of it, right? ...why would they make iPhone more powerful than iPad?
so next spring (optimistically), iPhone 5 (1GB), iPad 3 (1GB also), both with more powerful A5 chip. ..and hopefully (iPhone) edge to edge screen, LiquidMetal back, NFC, 4G. Admit it, Siri is great, but they needs these specs to keep momentum going, siri will not sell iphones.
this puts it on a par w/iPad2 and not ahead of it, right? ...why would they make iPhone more powerful than iPad?
so next spring (optimistically), iPhone 5 (1GB), iPad 3 (1GB also), both with more powerful A5 chip. ..and hopefully (iPhone) edge to edge screen, LiquidMetal back, NFC, 4G. Admit it, Siri is great, but they needs these specs to keep momentum going, siri will not sell iphones.
THIS THIS THIS ik soooo many people that r still on 4.0 and never plug in their iphone/ipad. Its always breaking my heart a little to see those crazy high numbers of avab app updates lol
Its the same ppl that still buy an 3GS now on a 2 years plan