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The iPhone 5 Should Again Deliver an Improved Antenna
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I came here wondering this exact thing.
I followed the live blogs and for the iPhone & iOS6, we basically heard everything over again that Apples own intentional leaks already told us. I still want to know ...
How much ram?
Will LTE function simultaneously w/voice/data on other networks?
Antennagate was way over hyped. Every single phone in the world had the same issues to varying degrees. And Steve told it as it was. At least Apple tried to fix it on their new phones. The slight problem that existed.
It might now actually get as good a reception as my work blackberry...
Would be about damn time.
It's largely up to the networks and the handset makers. I believe most LTE radios are capable of it these days.
As for RAM, apple usually doesn't tell. I'm guessing 1GB, but we'll need to see teardowns or diagnostic app screencaps to be sure.
Gotcha
Well, what did strike me as interesting was the fact they said at the beginning that "everything" inside the device was changing. However, you'd figure they would want to list every single improvement, ram being a major one to me.
Do current LTE devices on Verizon allow for simultaneous voice/data? My plan is to switch to Verizon as their coverage here is better but I have used voice/data together more times than I can count and wouldn't want to give that up.
If you have a LTE data connection, you can do simultaneous voice and data. Verizon is currently trailing voice over LTE.
With the iPhone 4, the antennas were on the outside of the phone. In addition, the antennas on the outside (around the edge) had a small gap between 2 of the antennas. If you bridged this gap with your fingers it attenuated the signal. So much so that in a marginal signal area (like my house) you could lose connectivity altogether. Not only that but for some people (like me and my family), our fingers just naturally touched this gap when holding the phone in a normal manner, so this attenuation wasn't just an annoyance, it was a deal breaker. I returned all 3 of my iPhone 4s and went back to our 3GSs. Now that we have iPhone 4Ss, we have no problem whatsoever.
The point about LTE getting traffic out of the way quicker is a good one. I'm not getting the sixth generation iPhone, but I am jealous of those who will be enjoying LTE for low data stuff over non-jammed frequencies in high traffic areas. Getting a signal at large conventions and such can be hard sometimes even for things as simple as twitter when everyone else is trying to do the same thing.
Antennagate was a joke. The iPhone 4 antenna was objectively better than the 3GS. I could make my 3G have just the same drop-off if I gripped it a certain way, as I could do with every other phone I got my hands on.
Antennagate was a joke. The iPhone 4 antenna was objectively better than the 3GS. I could make my 3G have just the same drop-off if I gripped it a certain way, as I could do with every other phone I got my hands on.
Boy, I sure hope this is true. I have a Verizon iphone4 and anywhere near my house I only get one bar. A couple of miles in almost any direction the bars go up and reception improves.
Around the house, many calls go right to my voicemail without ringing. My son visited last week, and his verizon iphone4s was not much better at all.
Verizon says they can improve reception around my house if I buy some gizmo from them for only $250.00
I do not live in the boonies. I live in the suburbs with a good population. If I upgrade to this iphone5, it will be mostly just for this improvement.
Around the house, many calls go right to my voicemail without ringing. My son visited last week, and his verizon iphone4s was not much better at all.
Verizon says they can improve reception around my house if I buy some gizmo from them for only $250.00
I do not live in the boonies. I live in the suburbs with a good population. If I upgrade to this iphone5, it will be mostly just for this improvement.
LTE reception in buildings?
Would LTE help with reception in cities and/or buildings? I get almost no 3G signal at my city office location with the iPhone 4S, wondering if I might be able to send/receive calls with the LTE network for ATT. Does the lower frequency help increase reception in areas like that?
Would LTE help with reception in cities and/or buildings? I get almost no 3G signal at my city office location with the iPhone 4S, wondering if I might be able to send/receive calls with the LTE network for ATT. Does the lower frequency help increase reception in areas like that?
I don't think the 4S was the first with antenna diversity. I remember the Droid X had it back in 2010.
Don't expect a significant improvement. There's only so much the phone can do.
Don't expect a significant improvement. There's only so much the phone can do.
The markings on the frame of the iPhone made it very easy to find the spot where to hold the phone to make reception worse. It also made it very easy to avoid that spot. So people wanting to make phone calls had no problems, but unfortunately people wanting to demonstrate a fault also had no problem.
This is what turned me to android. Apple didn't give a rats behind that their iPhones reception was crap.
Nice that $1k iphone is now about same level with antennas than $30 nokias, but WHY we are not getting FM transceiver like almost all other phones?
Nano has FM, why not iphone? To sell music from iTunes? The chips inside support FM, Apple what's going on?
I'm tired of listening webradios that break up every now and then especially when moving...
Nano has FM, why not iphone? To sell music from iTunes? The chips inside support FM, Apple what's going on?
I'm tired of listening webradios that break up every now and then especially when moving...
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These phones had a polycarbonate (plastic) back as opposed to the aluminum enclosures of the newer 4, 4S and 5 phones. RF signals don't travel very well through aluminum, or metal in general, hence the plastic strip at the back of all WiFi+3G iPads as well as at the back of iPhone5. This btw is one of the main reasons why the AIRPORT EXTREME and TIME CAPSULE are still made out of polycarbonate. If they could make the TC out of aluminum while at the same time licking that problem with the antennas inside, they'd have a lot fewer 'dead' TC's due to overheated/burnt-out power supplies.
It might have a better antenna, but I'm getting a bad feeling about its 4G/LTE support here in the UK.
First of all, only one carrier, Everything Everywhere will offer it this year (which we knew), but from what I read, the other major carriers O2, Vodaphone etc may not be able to support it even after they've secured the bandwidth in next year's bidding process which apparently won't be auctioning any of the bands which the iPhone 5 can operate on.
First of all, only one carrier, Everything Everywhere will offer it this year (which we knew), but from what I read, the other major carriers O2, Vodaphone etc may not be able to support it even after they've secured the bandwidth in next year's bidding process which apparently won't be auctioning any of the bands which the iPhone 5 can operate on.
Bummer! Are these 'Everything Everywhere' guys the 'new kids on the block'? Hadn't heard of them before today's keynote. Being the only ones to offer 4G/LTE support over there won't give them much of an incentive to be competitive now, will it?
Everything Everywhere are in fact the recently merged Orange & T-Mobile so not exactly new no!
They are getting to release 4G early because they had extra bandwidth once they merged and the UK government, panicking that they were being seen as getting left behind with 4G, did a deal with them to allow an early roll out, much to the displeasure of O2, Vodaphone etc who by law are having to wait for Ofcom to auction off the new frequency bands next year.
Yes, the point about competitiveness is apt. Furthermore, it was hoped 4G would help bring broadband speeds to less well connected areas of the UK, but again there's little incentive for this to happen either now.
Been using an iPhone 4 since day 1, and have never had a problem with dropped calls, lower signal, etc.
And I know many other people as well who can say the same. The "antennagate" issue was blown way out of proportion.
Have you heard of the Network Extender?
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/network-extender
There's a long story I could tell about the AT&T 3G Microcell. That device was the straw that broke the camel's back and made us switch to Verizon. We didn't actually wind up needing the network extender, but I bought one anyway just to try. It works flawlessly, so far as I can tell.