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What difference does it make? The point still stands. They aren't all best in class hardware as was claimed. I simply pointed that out. Why are we continuing this discussion? All I said was that Apple isn't at the top in every way. That statement isn't false.

Saying Apple overall , is actually top in class though thats the thing, there display is 1b, their SoC team has been churning out some of the best ARM soc's in 2013/14 in the A7/A8 and Apple has always used the best available mobile GPU out for a smartphone (GX6450/rogue 6xt series)

There ISP is also extremely good and the A8 sports first ever fully customized ISP designed from Apple
 
I think the 6 Plus is a good start as to where we are heading, but we haven't reached what it could be quite yet. Screen wise, I think it is there mostly. Still, the hardware needs to mature. Sure it has a great camera, but I don't think it's as good as it could be. There are still some improvements to be made to the camera but it can certainly take better photos then most point and shoots. The screen is good, and honestly I think the best compromise between an HD screen and performance.

The A8 could be a little better and I think it is what is holding the 6 Plus back from being all it could be. Now before everyone jumps on my back and saying the A8 is perfect, yes it does its job. However, the 1GB of RAM is serverly lacking even for iOS. Look at the iPad Air 2 (what I am typing this on). With 2GB of RAM, the experience is amazing. There is no tab reloading is Safari, apps stay in RAM longer, and it's an overall better experience. On my iPhone though (which is a 6 Plus also) I am constantly having to reload tab and wait for apps to reload since iOS, the operating system itself, pretty much uses the entire 1GB of RAM. It's ridiculous. I also don't want to hear the "oh but it's better for battery life" because how much more battery would 2GB of RAM use when 1GB of RAM has to constantly reconnect and write again and again into RAM?

Processing wise, both graphics and computing, is very fast on the 6/6 Plus. I have no complaints about that at all. It's a very fast phone, but the lack of RAM is killing it.
 
Very nice phone. Portable Computer? No Way...not even close!

My Nexus 6 is a terrific Portable Computer with an authentic file system that is missing from the iPhone. As such the iPhone is a glorified app player.

This is a large part of why I got a Nexus tablet over an iPad. I really like my iPhone 6, but people who only use iOS don't seem to realize how restrictive it is compared to Android. iOS certainly has other advantages, but Android allows you to use your device a lot more like a full computer.
 
What apps would you use to download several files (any file type) from a corporate ftp or anyway webpage, zip those files and then email that zip file?

You'd probably just use a Mac or PC? Or Android which is just as easy. With iOS its practically impossible. Just emailing multiple PDF's is a pain, proprietary files....forget about it.

Never understood Apple's hold up with things like this.

How about Documents 5? I'm able to download any file right to my phone with Documents 5, then combine them into a zip file and share them In numerous ways, right within the app. Not to mention the ability to transfer to and from the device's storage using the app right through iTunes on both pc and Mac.

iPhones aren't as limited as they once were, it's just that apple themselves has yet to offer an official way to take advantage of the functionality, therefore most people don't even know about it.
 
Saying Apple overall , is actually top in class though thats the thing, there display is 1b, their SoC team has been churning out some of the best ARM soc's in 2013/14 in the A7/A8 and Apple has always used the best available mobile GPU out for a smartphone (GX6450/rogue 6xt series)

There ISP is also extremely good and the A8 sports first ever fully customized ISP designed from Apple

Listen this back and forth is silly. This isn't about Apple as a whole. The OP is talking about a specific product having "best in class hardware in every aspect". I responded about a statement made about that exact product. You keep bringing these irrelevant points into the thread. For what? The OP isn't talking about Apple as a whole. I'm not talking about Apple as a whole. There is no reason to be talking abot Apple as a whole, lest our goal be to derail the thread and take it away from what the original topic started as. I hate to be "that guy" but i am not sure I am interested in responding any further; there would be no point.
 
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Listen this back and forth is silly. This isn't about Apple as a whole. The OP is talking about a specific product having "best in class hardware in every aspect". I responded about a statement made about that exact product. You keep bringing these irrelevant points into the thread. For what? The OP isn't talking about Apple as a whole. I'm not talking about Apple as a whole. There is no reason to be talking abot Apple as a whole, lest our goal be to derail the thread and take it away from what the original topic started as. I hate to be "that guy" but i am not sure I am interested in responding any further; there would be no point.

And arent we talking about that exact product that being the 6 Plus? Because thats exactly what I am talking about, the 6 Plus overall, hardware wise is very top notch and is literally one of the best if not the best as a whole overall hardware wise (6 Plus and 6)
 
And arent we talking about that exact product that being the 6 Plus? Because thats exactly what I am talking about, the 6 Plus overall, hardware wise is very top notch and is literally one of the best if not the best as a whole overall hardware wise (6 Plus and 6)

"Overall" is not the same thing as "In every aspect". Not even sure why I've repeated it this many times already.

Further, no, you aren't just talking about the product. You brought up ISPs, previous models of the device, and have said "Apple as a whole" throughout your quoting me. I never did and never meant to discuss Apple; that is not what this thread is about. You clearly did/do. That's fine. I am bowing out of that discussion because it is not what I came here to discuss.

I maintain the fact that the 6/Plus hardware are not superior in every aspect. Because they are not. They come together nicely. I have given credit where credit is do every chance I got. Nothing more to say.
 
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I love my Iphone 6 plus, but it is missing several features that would allow it to take plane of a portable computer
 
The 6+ isn't one hand usable XD

How many computers are?

Besides, if you use Siri, you can do a lot with one hand, or no hands if you in a car.

If you use one of your toes for a fingerprint, you can use your feet and don't need to use either hand.
 
Love the 6 Plus and I think too it is a pretty ****ing awesome portable computer :D....cant wait for more developers to start updating their apps to iOS 8 compatibility/use of Apple Metal and Swift also.
 
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I can tell that someone is very happy with their new iPhone, but calling an iPhone an ideal portable computer is an insult to any laptop, or pretty much any computing device that can actually do 'computing'. No iDevice can equal what an Android device or a PC can do, until you unshackle it from the chains that we call 'stock iOS'. There are simply too many limitations to overcome. No access to a file system is a huge pain. Not allowing me to share, download or even email certain file types. Lack of RAM causing constant refreshes on webpages. And so on.

But as a phone, I really like my iPhone 6. Is it the best ever? Tough call and very subjective.
 
Haha people are delirious. iOS is a cute, little Mickey Mouse of an operating system. You can't eveh begin to compare a device that can't even multi-task to a desktop/laptop computer.
 
Haha people are delirious. iOS is a cute, little Mickey Mouse of an operating system. You can't eveh begin to compare a device that can't even multi-task to a desktop/laptop computer.

Thus why Apple still make Macs.

That aside, I'd say the term "computer" has pretty much been torn asunder since smartphones and tablets took off, so technically iPhone is a brilliant "computer".
 
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Thus why Apple still make Macs.

That aside, I'd say the term "computer" has pretty much been torn asunder since smartphones and tablets took off, so technically iPhone is a brilliant "computer".

Well yeah, you can call a watch a "computer" but we are talking about being able to execute all the same functions and capabilities of a standard desktop OS here.
 
I think the iPhone 6/6+ is a lot more powerful than my first computer, a 286, and I can do a lot more with it than my first computer. I still call my first computer a computer.

So I don't think the lack of power is the problem with calling it a computer.

The problem is that computer are a bit more unwieldy. You think of the size and weight, and cables, etc., not something you can fit in a pocket. So calling a 6/6+ a computer is insulting :)

Can it function as a computer for some people? Absolutely. For example if most of what you do is talking photos and editing them, or running a Unix shell to manage nuclear reactors, then of course it can.
 
When it comes to phones, the Note 4 is the closest thing to a mini computer. The iPhone is a smartphone (*with knack-all RAM).
 
When it comes to phones, the Note 4 is the closest thing to a mini computer. The iPhone is a smartphone (*with knack-all RAM).

Now I am really confused:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minicomputer

A minicomputer, or colloquially mini, is a class of smaller computers that developed in the mid-1960s and sold for much less than mainframe and mid-size computers from IBM and its direct competitors. In a 1970 survey, the New York Times suggested a consensus definition of a minicomputer as a machine costing less than 25,000 USD, with an input-output device such as a teleprinter and at least 4K words of memory, that is capable of running programs in a higher level language, such as Fortran or BASIC.[1]

But you are right, at least about "costing less than 25,000 USD."
 
I am also a big fan of apple and heavily invested in the company, but frankly iphone 6 plus is not even the best phablet around. :D

imho it doesnt make any sense having such a big screen without any pen or superior multitasking capabilities.
 
I am also a big fan of apple and heavily invested in the company, but frankly iphone 6 plus is not even the best phablet around. :D

imho it doesnt make any sense having such a big screen without any pen or superior multitasking capabilities.

The larger screen is still great for watching movies and viewing photos/web pages. Multi-tasking would be nice but it's not like its exclusion is preventing users from enjoying the increased screen real estate...:confused:
 
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The larger screen is still great for watching movies and viewing photos/web pages. Multi-tasking would be nice but it's not like it's exclusion is preventing users from enjoying the increased screen real estate...:confused:

It's just making us (me)really think, "What if?"

I wouldn't use it as my work device, personally. But it's the best damn experience I have ever had for anything and everything consumption. And that's not to say it can;t do everything the other phones can, for the most part. I just prefer not to have to jump through hoops. There was a time when I just jailbroke to get everything I need (want). Probably still would if I didn't have two devices, one of which I don't have to pay for.
 
The larger screen is still great for watching movies and viewing photos/web pages. Multi-tasking would be nice but it's not like it's exclusion is preventing users from enjoying the increased screen real estate...:confused:


no doubt about it :) but i don't think just a bigger screen (or battery) is enough for carrying such a huge phone in your pocket.

if i trade portability then i ask for more. definitely depends on personal preferences. :(
 
After a few months with my Plus, I can still say it's by FAR the best phone I've ever owned. Big, big fan.

I do wish, however, they had put in 2GB RAM, but it's not the end of the world. Just need to wait for the 6S+. :)

Absolutely love the phone and I'm ecstatic that the battery goes for 2 days of heavy use. :cool:


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